It’s amazing how people can have differing opinions of the same book. Last May, the Lovefraud Reader Ox Drover wrote a review of The Gaslight Effect, by Dr. Robin Stern. I am always on the lookout for books that will help readers understand, and recover from, a traumatic entanglement with a sociopath. Because Oxy was so complimentary about The Gaslight Effect, I was anxious to read it, and possibly recommend it to others.
Well, I read the book, but I’m not sure I can recommend it.
Oxy did point out that Dr. Stern never mentions the word, “sociopath,” referring to the perpetrator as the “gaslighter,” and the victim as the “gaslightee.” Although Oxy was willing to look past this omission, I’m not.
First of all, let’s define “gaslighting.” According to Wikipedia:
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented to the victim with the intent of making them doubt their own memory and perception. It may simply be the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, or it could be the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.
Gaslighting is nasty behavior. The problem I have with this book is that Dr. Stern never, ever mentions, not once, that a person who is gaslighting someone else may be malicious, controlling, and intent on destroying the soul of the victim. She does not mention that the gaslighter may be mentally and emotionally abusing someone else, simply for his or her amusement. She does not say that the gaslighter may be evil.
Here’s how Dr. Stern defines the gaslighting relationship:
The Gaslight Effect results from a relationship between two people: a gaslighter, who needs to be right in order to preserve his own sense of self and his sense of having power in the world; and a gaslightee, who allows the gaslighter to define her sense of reality because she idealizes him and seeks his approval.
This definition makes it seem like the two parties—gaslighter and gaslightee—are equally responsible for the dynamics. I don’t think that’s true. Then, a few pages later, Dr. Stern writes:
Of course, neither of you may be aware of what’s really happening. The gaslighter may genuinely believe every word he tells you or sincerely feel that he’s only saving you from yourself. Remember: He’s being driven by his own needs. Your gaslighter might seem like a strong, powerful man, or he may appear to be an insecure, tantrum-throwing little boy; either way, he feels weak and powerless. To feel powerful and safe, he has to prove that he is right, and he has to get you to agree with him.
Excuse me while I barf. Sociopaths who engage in gaslighting do not feel weak and powerless. They are motivated by dominance and feel totally entitled to do what they want and take what they want, even if it is someone else’s sanity.
Three types of gaslighters
Next, Dr. Stern describes three types of gaslighters—the Glamour Gaslighter, the Good-Guy Gaslighter, and the Intimidator. She spends the most time describing the Glamour Gaslighter:
He lets you know you’re the most wonderful woman in the world, the only one who’s ever understood him, the fairy-tale princess who has magically transformed his life. He’ll transform your life, too, he implies or even promises, he’ll shower you with affection, take you to wonderful places, sweep you off your feet with gifts or intimate confessions or sexual attention of a kind you’ve never known before.
This is a perfect description of a sociopath in full seduction mode. But Dr. Stern doesn’t seem to get it. Instead, she explains that this man is in love with the idea of a relationship. He likes to be a leading man, and is looking for a leading lady to fill her part.
Dr. Stern describes the Good-Guy Gaslighter as someone who needs to appear reasonable and good, but is deeply committed to getting his own way. She spends the least amount of time describing the Intimidator, perhaps because the problems are so obvious—put-downs, yelling, bullying, guilt trips and other types of punishment. In order for a relationship with an Intimidator to be more satisfying, she says, the Intimidator will need to alter his way of relating. Yeah, right.
Stress response
Much of this book describes sample cases of gaslightees trying to understand and cope with gaslighters. I’m sure this helps people realize and identify what is going on in these relationships.
The book, however, falls down when Dr. Stern explains why this behavior happens. She writes, “Gaslighting is a response to stress; people become either gaslighters or gaslightees when they feel threatened.”
Sociopaths don’t engage in gaslighting because they’re stressed. They engage in it because it’s who they are and what they do. And victims don’t become gaslightees because of stress. They are trapped because of a psychopathic bond created by the predator.
Then, Dr. Stern asks the reader to be honest:
Think about the ways in which you aren’t being your best self. Do you set off your gaslighter by being overly critical or demanding? Do you belittle your gaslighter or play on his vulnerabilities? Do you say or do things that you know will make him crazy?
Gee, the people I hear from are walking on eggshells trying not to set the guy off. Until, of course, it gets so bad that they have not choice but to explode.
What’s your view?
In the last chapter, Dr. Stern offers three courses of action for people in these situations: Changing the gaslighting relationship from within, limiting a gaslighting relationship, or leaving the relationship. Yes, these are the three choices, and the book offers suggestions on how to decide what to do.
When considering whether to stay in the relationship and change it from within, Dr. Stern reminds the reader to be compassionate, both for herself and the gaslighter. She writes:
You don’t have to put up with unlimited bad treatment, but if your gaslighter persists in gaslighting you, you can remind yourself that he is also suffering, perhaps even more than you are. After all, he almost certainly grew up in a home where he was gaslighted by someone and couldn’t make it stop—so now he doesn’t understand why you have the power to say no.
Is this true? I am asking an honest question of Lovefraud readers here, and I would appreciate your feedback. Have any of you ever been subjected to gaslighting by someone who was basically a good person with problems? Can any of you attribute gaslighting behavior to the perpetrator’s stress or internal pain? Or, do you feel that gaslighting behavior is due to sociopathic traits?
Afraid to recommend
Overall, I have mixed feelings about this book, The Gaslight Effect. The author does a good job of explaining what the behavior looks like, and the questions victims should ask themselves to determine what is really going on. She offers strategies for coping with the behavior, including leaving the relationship.
But Dr. Stern seems to come from that school of therapy that believes both parties contribute equally to relationship problems. Throughout the entire book, I kept waiting for the author to warn the reader that some gaslighters have dangerous, pathological personality disorders, and they should run, not walk, for the nearest exit. The warning never came.
Therefore, I’m afraid to recommend the book, because it may encourage people to stay and try to work things out with an abuser. And the longer people stay in a gaslighting relationship, the more power they lose, and the harder it is to finally leave.
Hi Ox Drover,
I haven’t been around for awhile. But I know that are a resident “wisdom-giver”! lol!! I had a question. I was having a conversation with a man who by all appearances was kind, caring, attentive, etc. We were having a conversation about those who do evil to others. He stated that he felt “That on a human level, I feel sorry for them for how they grew up, etc.” And I said I was careful of who I sympathized with because there are some people who are just downright evil. So I proceeded to provide examples. I finally asked him what if a man had raped your wife, how much sympathy would you have for that man then? He responded by saying that he felt that his wife being raped and feeling sorry for the man were not mutually exclusive. So then it escalates into an argument. So later, we wave our white flags and then he says that I said that I said something I know I did not say. It had something to do with not having enough patience to stick it out with him. I was adamant that I had not said that. And he said we all say things when we’re angry. Was I a victim of gaslighting?
dancingnancies says:
“I know this will pass for you, if it helps to- write out his behaviors and read it over and over. You have been constantly and consistently reinforced that he was something he WASN’T and now you have to “untangle” if you will the lies which brought you to be attracted to him in the first place.”
Thank you for these words. I just wrote down everything on a piece of paper. When I first started I didn’t think it would be much, but I ended up covering both sides of the paper. The lies, manipulation, gaslighting, etc. I SEE it all!!
LessonLearned: You said “I want to reach the point all of you are at now. I’m SO frustrated that I sometimes feel I didn’t get to the point in the relationship that I was COMPLETELY DONE WITHOUT ANYMORE FEELING FOR HIM AND COMPLETELY INDIFFERENT!!!!”
This didn’t happen for me until recently. I wanted the man I married, but that man never existed except as a scam. I had to fight it all the time. One day I realized I had crossed that miserable milemarker. I NOW feel indifferent to WHO HE IS NOW. Thus I admire your insight, that “he is not the man anymore that he was for me.” Exactly.
Dear healingfast19,
I’m an opinionated old woman, not sure how much “wisdom” is in it! LOL
I would say “Yes” you were gaslighted—telling you that you said something you did not say is “gaslighting”–with that said, however, we CAN say things we don’t remember saying, especially if we are excited, angry, distracted, etc.
BUT, the argument to begin with and him saying that he would “feel pity” for the rapist of his wife is a load of bull carp I think.
I think he was seeing if YOU would buy this “pity the poor person who does wrong because he had a bad upbringing, so that makes it not his fault, he needs to be loved and pitied” Excuse me— while I PUKE!
If this guy is Mother Theresa or Jesus, then he might somehow have some “pity” for these “poor suffering souls,” but in light of the fact that is not likely, then I think he was trying to gaslight you. Funny thing too, many “enablers” (“bleeding hearts”) have so much pity for the bad guys, but they will PUNISH THE HELL OUT OF YOU as “unforgiving” if you don’t “pity” the bad guys and give them a pass on the consequences of their bad behavior. LOL
Ox, well all the same, I still appreciate the insight!!! lol!! Your “opinionated old woman stuff” has really helped me tremendously!! :o) You know how in court when an attorney has a witness in the witness stand and proceeds to ask leading questions, to which the opposing question promptly raises an objection.
Well, when he presented to me what he claimed I said, it was in a leading way. My mind and my spirit raised an immediate objection!! It was soooo far off of what we were discussing, but just close enough that there was a little doubt, but it just didn’t ring true. He phrased it in a way that I know I wouldn’t of said it because it wasn’t how I felt.
It got me to thinking that he may be feeling so “high and mighty” about judgments against wickedness and evil as a way of offering himself a way out of the evil that he does. He seemed to have more concern for the perp than for the victim. Wow!!! Get thee behind me!!
Thanks so much!!
Hi Ox and Skylar:
Thanks for the comments. Now that I am free of him – I know what my remark meant…
I did not love him for him – since I did not know the real “him”. I loved the “person” that was the weekend person – the motorcycle, flea markets, shore, the excitement, etc. But during the week – the “person” that sat on my couch, while I cooked, watching tv, lied constantly, put his ex wife and friend before me – I did not like.
I know in order to love there must be like. I guess my tongue was doing all the talking and my heart and mind just needed to catch up.
Which they finally did!!! And it feels great!!!
healing,
You just had a “gut” feeling, red flag about that person. Follow it! And warn any other women ( I assume you work with this person or live near by) that may have contact with him. You can be subtle just saying that he may not be what appears to be. spaths use women to get to another,,,,
ie: You say what a sweetheart he is during a coffee break/meeting and BOOM… he is in with the other women! Oh what a scheme!!!
My bet would be that he is about 50 or so and you are much younger!!!
Just guessing!!
soimnotthecrazee1!
Hi CZ!
Good job in figuring that one out!!!!
Yep.. that weekend person sure is alot of fun! It’s that weekday person that sucks!
Thanks soimnotthecrazee1!!!!
Love the name by the way!! Yes, he is older than me, but not by that much in age. However, in terms of “street” experience, he’s much older. I grew up very sheltered so even at my age (40ish), I can tend to be naive. But what’s interesting is that you mentioned other women. He speaks with authority and appears to be very upright and religious. So he attracts many women. Those whom he claims not to notice. At first I thought he was a victim of circumstance, until I realized that the only helpers in his life were women. You are so right!!
However, upon further examination and closer contact, the controlling, manipulating, lying, secretiveness, etc. began. Doesn’t have a job. Hasn’t had a steady one in over a year. Always talks in vague terms about accessing Resources. Plays the constant victim. His story from birth on up to age 45 is how the world has victimized him. For two months, everything was cool. And then he made that statement with absolutely no emotion or anything. Then the crazy making arguments.
Lesson…….
I don’t even think of him anymore….which is a miracle..and when I do I just think HE IS PATHETIC
You will reach this point one day. I was with him for a year and a half…NC for 5 months…together 5months …NC for 5 months…then together (as friends) for 5 months. Now its over…and I haven’t returned his text or call the other day to even explain why its over this time around…even as a friend.
He was right…IF he’s so bad, why am I with him? lol!!
I didn’t think he was SO bad…but, in time….I tested him…and he proved to be THAT bad. Here’s why:
He lied about hating dating sites…staying away from the internet…hating porn. Caught him on all.
He refused to answer questions of his whereabouts.
Obviously was hiding something
He constantly promised to take me to certain resturaunts, places, and to buy me a new watch…or clothes.
Never panned out.
He never wanted to meet to just go out to dinner or walk, etc..
Only wanted to see me and have sex each time.
He never came over my house with a gift for my kids…donuts…etc..
He said he is dating ME..not my kids.
He never held my hand in public..unaffectionate.
Except in bed.
He refused to take me to a fine dining place…
Claimed it was a waste of money to eat out..yet ordered food to be picked up for himself from fine resturaunts.
He texted me all day and played the jealous game…where are you?….
Yet I never knew where he was and he got mad if I asked.
He denied telling me he sold his house….a year later.
He told me over and over how he wished he didn’t sell it since he didnt think he would get serious with me!
OKAY….he was right about one thing….IF HE IS SO BAD WHY WAS I WITH HIM????
He got me thinking…..and I said, TOBE>..you are pathetic if you want a pathetic thing like him in your life!!
So, I woke up from the fantasy and dumped him!
I went to a very professional clinical psychologist the first time I dumped him.
She said…..When you meet someone…NEVER sleep with them until you know them well…a few months of dates and questions. After 3 dates…introduce him to your close family/friends. If TWO people see the same negative thing about him….dump him.
I should have listened to my family and friends….
THEN she said….everytime you think of him……picture a man you would like to be with….just put any man in his place….
And…move and think of the future ….CLose your eyes and and envision yourself happy in a r/s with a new man…
If you think it…it will come.