It’s amazing how people can have differing opinions of the same book. Last May, the Lovefraud Reader Ox Drover wrote a review of The Gaslight Effect, by Dr. Robin Stern. I am always on the lookout for books that will help readers understand, and recover from, a traumatic entanglement with a sociopath. Because Oxy was so complimentary about The Gaslight Effect, I was anxious to read it, and possibly recommend it to others.
Well, I read the book, but I’m not sure I can recommend it.
Oxy did point out that Dr. Stern never mentions the word, “sociopath,” referring to the perpetrator as the “gaslighter,” and the victim as the “gaslightee.” Although Oxy was willing to look past this omission, I’m not.
First of all, let’s define “gaslighting.” According to Wikipedia:
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented to the victim with the intent of making them doubt their own memory and perception. It may simply be the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, or it could be the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.
Gaslighting is nasty behavior. The problem I have with this book is that Dr. Stern never, ever mentions, not once, that a person who is gaslighting someone else may be malicious, controlling, and intent on destroying the soul of the victim. She does not mention that the gaslighter may be mentally and emotionally abusing someone else, simply for his or her amusement. She does not say that the gaslighter may be evil.
Here’s how Dr. Stern defines the gaslighting relationship:
The Gaslight Effect results from a relationship between two people: a gaslighter, who needs to be right in order to preserve his own sense of self and his sense of having power in the world; and a gaslightee, who allows the gaslighter to define her sense of reality because she idealizes him and seeks his approval.
This definition makes it seem like the two parties—gaslighter and gaslightee—are equally responsible for the dynamics. I don’t think that’s true. Then, a few pages later, Dr. Stern writes:
Of course, neither of you may be aware of what’s really happening. The gaslighter may genuinely believe every word he tells you or sincerely feel that he’s only saving you from yourself. Remember: He’s being driven by his own needs. Your gaslighter might seem like a strong, powerful man, or he may appear to be an insecure, tantrum-throwing little boy; either way, he feels weak and powerless. To feel powerful and safe, he has to prove that he is right, and he has to get you to agree with him.
Excuse me while I barf. Sociopaths who engage in gaslighting do not feel weak and powerless. They are motivated by dominance and feel totally entitled to do what they want and take what they want, even if it is someone else’s sanity.
Three types of gaslighters
Next, Dr. Stern describes three types of gaslighters—the Glamour Gaslighter, the Good-Guy Gaslighter, and the Intimidator. She spends the most time describing the Glamour Gaslighter:
He lets you know you’re the most wonderful woman in the world, the only one who’s ever understood him, the fairy-tale princess who has magically transformed his life. He’ll transform your life, too, he implies or even promises, he’ll shower you with affection, take you to wonderful places, sweep you off your feet with gifts or intimate confessions or sexual attention of a kind you’ve never known before.
This is a perfect description of a sociopath in full seduction mode. But Dr. Stern doesn’t seem to get it. Instead, she explains that this man is in love with the idea of a relationship. He likes to be a leading man, and is looking for a leading lady to fill her part.
Dr. Stern describes the Good-Guy Gaslighter as someone who needs to appear reasonable and good, but is deeply committed to getting his own way. She spends the least amount of time describing the Intimidator, perhaps because the problems are so obvious—put-downs, yelling, bullying, guilt trips and other types of punishment. In order for a relationship with an Intimidator to be more satisfying, she says, the Intimidator will need to alter his way of relating. Yeah, right.
Stress response
Much of this book describes sample cases of gaslightees trying to understand and cope with gaslighters. I’m sure this helps people realize and identify what is going on in these relationships.
The book, however, falls down when Dr. Stern explains why this behavior happens. She writes, “Gaslighting is a response to stress; people become either gaslighters or gaslightees when they feel threatened.”
Sociopaths don’t engage in gaslighting because they’re stressed. They engage in it because it’s who they are and what they do. And victims don’t become gaslightees because of stress. They are trapped because of a psychopathic bond created by the predator.
Then, Dr. Stern asks the reader to be honest:
Think about the ways in which you aren’t being your best self. Do you set off your gaslighter by being overly critical or demanding? Do you belittle your gaslighter or play on his vulnerabilities? Do you say or do things that you know will make him crazy?
Gee, the people I hear from are walking on eggshells trying not to set the guy off. Until, of course, it gets so bad that they have not choice but to explode.
What’s your view?
In the last chapter, Dr. Stern offers three courses of action for people in these situations: Changing the gaslighting relationship from within, limiting a gaslighting relationship, or leaving the relationship. Yes, these are the three choices, and the book offers suggestions on how to decide what to do.
When considering whether to stay in the relationship and change it from within, Dr. Stern reminds the reader to be compassionate, both for herself and the gaslighter. She writes:
You don’t have to put up with unlimited bad treatment, but if your gaslighter persists in gaslighting you, you can remind yourself that he is also suffering, perhaps even more than you are. After all, he almost certainly grew up in a home where he was gaslighted by someone and couldn’t make it stop—so now he doesn’t understand why you have the power to say no.
Is this true? I am asking an honest question of Lovefraud readers here, and I would appreciate your feedback. Have any of you ever been subjected to gaslighting by someone who was basically a good person with problems? Can any of you attribute gaslighting behavior to the perpetrator’s stress or internal pain? Or, do you feel that gaslighting behavior is due to sociopathic traits?
Afraid to recommend
Overall, I have mixed feelings about this book, The Gaslight Effect. The author does a good job of explaining what the behavior looks like, and the questions victims should ask themselves to determine what is really going on. She offers strategies for coping with the behavior, including leaving the relationship.
But Dr. Stern seems to come from that school of therapy that believes both parties contribute equally to relationship problems. Throughout the entire book, I kept waiting for the author to warn the reader that some gaslighters have dangerous, pathological personality disorders, and they should run, not walk, for the nearest exit. The warning never came.
Therefore, I’m afraid to recommend the book, because it may encourage people to stay and try to work things out with an abuser. And the longer people stay in a gaslighting relationship, the more power they lose, and the harder it is to finally leave.
Tell her to come here, NTL.
Let her read for herself. She is one with high empathy. He feeds off of those who will buy into his victims stories.
HOld fast to your truth.
If you have love and support for you and know what his machinations are, hold onto those people.
IF you don’t, can you consider a move?
Not,
My point was to surround yourself with a support team BEFORE you meet anyone. That said, if your support team, is like mine (spaths), it won’t help much, just a bit. But perhaps your close friend, who lives next door tot the spath, might like the book, “the sociopath next door”.
My parents are N’s and control freaks, but my spath is so angry that he couldn’t turn them against me. They were wise to him. It was more like a tug of war over me. Oh well, I’m really good N-supply, so who WOULDN’T want me? LOL.
This Chica is going to bed now, lovelies!
Thank you for all your love and tremendous support, insights and shared stories. I can’t thank you all enough for the help you’ve lovingly provided.
Sleep well, all of you.
Nite 🙂
LL, I would love to move with my kids, but ex could always go to court to fight. Right now I am trying to stall any court action because he is not happy with the visitation, as he only gets the younger two every other fortnight and a few hours in between. The older ones don’t want to see him anyway. The court could possibly give him more, even though he has an assault charge against one. Doesn’t seem to make any difference with the courts – as long as they present well and seem remorseful.
I was very involved in community groups before I met him. I wasn’t even interesting in dating – everyone else my age were pairing up. People were surprised when I got a boyfriend. Because he is such a networker, he had no problems fitting into my social group and we had over 400 at our wedding – I must admit I didn’t know who half of them were – he already many established church leaders as friends. Now he is still doing the networking among our church friends and I don’t want to leave because I made sure I got pastoral support (which he doesn’t know about) and if I went anywhere else, he could hoodwink the pastor. It takes a while to see through him. Even those who do (like my good friend) pity him, seeing him more of a flawed person who was wired wrongly rather than evil – in fact, most would say I was wrong if I said he was evil. A well-known guest preacher was asked by him to speak to me, and the first thing he said after I told him my side was, “And so you are just writing him off as evil?” I knew it would be to my detriment to say yes, so I said no, he was not evil but he had severe thinking errors. He seemed to accept that.
The ex doesn’t live next door – he comes around for dinner next door. And he may end up moving next door too, because of the property order. My kids told me we would suck it up until we could prepare the house for sale and move. Trouble is I also gave up my share of the savings to reach agreement, which means I don’t have spare cash (I don’t work) to do the minor repairs before selling. Just the other week, my troubled teen tried to burn his room so now I have to replace his burnt carpet. Another long story!
Skylar, same here – my most toxic family members hate him! But the softies get targeted by him, even though they don’t agree with him, but they don’t slam down the phone either.
I still have problems identifying him as a psychopath. Esp because I have read some articles that differentiate between sociopaths and psychopaths. And he seems to have a few traits of each, but not all of either of them! I always tend to think of him as clueless. I can’t believe that his misdemeanors are really deliberate. He doesn’t even try to hide his distorted thinking – like complaining to the counselor that I pushed him away when he sexually assaulted him. And he sobbed at that!! The counselor felt so sorry for him and wondered why I was biting my tongue!!
Not,
My heart goes out to you, having to deal with the court system. the cops are the biggest problem and the courts are next. One red flag of a spath is the ability to manipulate authorities. They brown nose authorities, it’s part of their MO. The fact that he has done that in your church, tells me that he is a spath. All I can suggest is to be very aware of how you present yourself in court. Try to stick to the facts and be calm. But not too calm. That backfired on Aussie Girl and her restraining order was lifted because she didn’t seem scared enough!!!!!!
You said, “like complaining to the counselor that I pushed him away when he sexually assaulted him.” I don’t get that. do you mean “assaulted me”?
My most toxic family member, my little spath sister, is cooperating with my exP but she doesn’t even know it. My spath exP sent a trojan horse to marry her and make her hate me. I guess it wasn’t hard to do, since she has no soul and no brains, either. I’ve told her and she, of course, can’t believe that her husband actually wants to kill her. She says, “it’s ok to be evil because everyone is, you can’t change people Skylar, why try?” How’s that for intellect? I actually feel sorry for her because she was in a car accident with me at age 15 and had a brain injury and she has been stupid in that way, ever since.
But my parents are the root of the problem. They hate my exP but they are the ones who abused me as a child and made me vulnerable to him. They overheard him tell someone that he was only with me for my money (when I was 18 years old) but it took 25 years for them to tell me.
They beg me to have a relationshit with them, they say they are sorry (sort of), but then my mom continues to allow the spath sister to have access to a room in their home with all my things in it, including documents and my cats.
There are no softies in my family – I was the only one, my good sister is hard nosed and would never put up with spath behavior. she even keeps my parents at arms length. The rest are spaths or N’s.
It sounds like you are very good at biting your tongue and assessing the people around you. That is a big plus, it’s what I’m trying to learn to do. The last thing we need is another stab in the back by a close friend. ((good luck))
Dear Justdreaming,
Different people handle grief and loss in different ways. In this situation you want to share your grief with your husband and frankly he wants to quit thinking about it. Also, your grief and sense of loss may be DIFFERENT or more intense than his.
I suggest that you go to counseling about this so that you can continue to process this grief and this loss and I would not push your husband at this time to talk about something he does NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT. He has a RIGHT to handle his grief, his way. Problems come with two people are grieving a loss and onen of them is in the anger stage, and the other is in the sad stage and they can’t agree in which stage to be in so they fight each other. DON’T DO THAT. Don’t try to force your husband to be in the same stage or depth of grief that yOU are in. Just get some counseling, or come here and verbalize your grief.
I’m glad that you got this monster out of your life and don’t believe a word of his “sorry” because you know he is lying. Anyone that it takes 6 cops to remove is not your “friend”—-and you can EXPECT that he will try to come back sooner or later, restraining order or not. So don’t let the restraining order expire. Also you might want to notify your kids schools that there is a restraining order and give them a photo of him, especially the little ones teachers and principal.
Good luck! (((Hugs))))
I second Oxy’s advise. You need to process this, even if your husband doesn’t want to. You can journal your feelings and thoughts about it and that might help. You can process here with us, or as Oxy said, counseling will allow you to work through your loss. I don’t think sweeping it under the rug, or pretending it didn’t happen is a good idea, because anything we deny or don’t deal with just lurks beneith the surface and continues to haunt us…continues to effect our lives, even if we aren’t consciencly aware of it. Resolve or repeat. That’s my motto.
Justdreamin – I don’t think we ever get over things.
Words of comfort that I received when my husband took his own life (let’s face it after the funeral everything is back to ‘normal’ for everyone else – right?!) were these words….
That he was part of our life, good times and bad and we cannot leave those memories behind they are what makes us ‘US’
So what we need to do is find a place for them in our heart/head and take those memories with us into the future.
It does not mean that those memories rule our lives but that they are a part of us and cannot be erased.
But we can store them and re-visit them if/when we feel able to.
Looking back over the losses I suffered and even though my husband and I didn’t always feel the losses the same, there were times when he just didn’t want to hear my pain…especially about one “friend” that I loved who betrayed me. He was still under her spell. He didn’t feel the loss that I did, and I WANTED him to. I felt like he didn’t support me if he didn’t feel the loss the same as I did. I managed to work my way through it, without getting angry at him over his feeling differently about her, but it did make it more difficult for me to deal with because I did want to share my grief with him.
We had a good marriage and he was very supportive with me about most things, but on this one thing he did NOT understand or comprehend just how much I hurt over her betrayal.
Sometimes we just have to realize that we can’t make someone see or feel something that they don’t see or feel just like we do. But we can process that grief ourselves and say “I wish John saw how much Tom hurt me, but I can deal with him not being in agreement with me, each of us processes grief in a different way.”
It takes time as well, so give yourself some time. Check out “Elizabeth Kubler-Ross” and her research on the grief process. Her work will help you understand the ups and downs of the grieving process and the roller coaster effects we feel. It will pass. (((Hugs))))
Skylar,
Thanks for your insight. You are exactly right – it’s a great idea to order him a book. He understands a lot of it because I have explained it, but I hate to keep harping at things, and picking at him about things that hurt him to hear. Maybe a book would help him to recover too.
Also, my post came across too sharp when I said he listened for 3 weeks. He still is willing to listen anytime, but I can tell it bothers him now. At first he wanted to know everything, wanted to know what had happened. It was a pitiful story to tell and I didn’t want to do it (to HIM), but he insisted that he felt better knowing. He has been nothing but good about all of it, much better than I could have been if it had happened the other way around I think.
You “pointing out sociopaths in the wild,” that’s funny. I try to be quiet when I am tempted to do that, but we think alike!
I love the idea of making life better than normal. That’s what I want, and why I don’t want to heal up “wrong”. I don’t want to pack everything away into denial, and pretend it didn’t happen.
Oxy,
Thanks for your input and practical advice. My husband and I were talking after I posted this. A few years ago he was bitten by a brown recluse spider. When it first happened he was in grave danger, and we focused all our attention on the injury. Our life for about a week was all about doctors and medicines and worries about how bad this could get. The second week it looked like he would survive it, but it would take a while to get through. After that, he had daily treatments but was able to work, although not fully functional. Eventually he went off the treatments. Then later, he was able to work well again. Now, he is mostly healed but does have a large scar. The point is… he said, “I don’t remember exactly when, but at some point the hurt quit controlling me, and I started controlling it.”
His physical recovery gave him something to compare to the process I am going through. So after we talked I think he understands that I am not just going to wake up and announce one day soon that I am “totally over all of it.” And I am not sure I want to heal up so completely that I am vulnerable again. Just like I would never hurt a spider before, maybe scoop it up and carry it outside, or maybe flush it down the toilet while I looked the other way. But now I will STOMP AND KILL THAT SUCKER before it hurts me or someone I love!! LOL