It’s amazing how people can have differing opinions of the same book. Last May, the Lovefraud Reader Ox Drover wrote a review of The Gaslight Effect, by Dr. Robin Stern. I am always on the lookout for books that will help readers understand, and recover from, a traumatic entanglement with a sociopath. Because Oxy was so complimentary about The Gaslight Effect, I was anxious to read it, and possibly recommend it to others.
Well, I read the book, but I’m not sure I can recommend it.
Oxy did point out that Dr. Stern never mentions the word, “sociopath,” referring to the perpetrator as the “gaslighter,” and the victim as the “gaslightee.” Although Oxy was willing to look past this omission, I’m not.
First of all, let’s define “gaslighting.” According to Wikipedia:
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented to the victim with the intent of making them doubt their own memory and perception. It may simply be the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, or it could be the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.
Gaslighting is nasty behavior. The problem I have with this book is that Dr. Stern never, ever mentions, not once, that a person who is gaslighting someone else may be malicious, controlling, and intent on destroying the soul of the victim. She does not mention that the gaslighter may be mentally and emotionally abusing someone else, simply for his or her amusement. She does not say that the gaslighter may be evil.
Here’s how Dr. Stern defines the gaslighting relationship:
The Gaslight Effect results from a relationship between two people: a gaslighter, who needs to be right in order to preserve his own sense of self and his sense of having power in the world; and a gaslightee, who allows the gaslighter to define her sense of reality because she idealizes him and seeks his approval.
This definition makes it seem like the two parties—gaslighter and gaslightee—are equally responsible for the dynamics. I don’t think that’s true. Then, a few pages later, Dr. Stern writes:
Of course, neither of you may be aware of what’s really happening. The gaslighter may genuinely believe every word he tells you or sincerely feel that he’s only saving you from yourself. Remember: He’s being driven by his own needs. Your gaslighter might seem like a strong, powerful man, or he may appear to be an insecure, tantrum-throwing little boy; either way, he feels weak and powerless. To feel powerful and safe, he has to prove that he is right, and he has to get you to agree with him.
Excuse me while I barf. Sociopaths who engage in gaslighting do not feel weak and powerless. They are motivated by dominance and feel totally entitled to do what they want and take what they want, even if it is someone else’s sanity.
Three types of gaslighters
Next, Dr. Stern describes three types of gaslighters—the Glamour Gaslighter, the Good-Guy Gaslighter, and the Intimidator. She spends the most time describing the Glamour Gaslighter:
He lets you know you’re the most wonderful woman in the world, the only one who’s ever understood him, the fairy-tale princess who has magically transformed his life. He’ll transform your life, too, he implies or even promises, he’ll shower you with affection, take you to wonderful places, sweep you off your feet with gifts or intimate confessions or sexual attention of a kind you’ve never known before.
This is a perfect description of a sociopath in full seduction mode. But Dr. Stern doesn’t seem to get it. Instead, she explains that this man is in love with the idea of a relationship. He likes to be a leading man, and is looking for a leading lady to fill her part.
Dr. Stern describes the Good-Guy Gaslighter as someone who needs to appear reasonable and good, but is deeply committed to getting his own way. She spends the least amount of time describing the Intimidator, perhaps because the problems are so obvious—put-downs, yelling, bullying, guilt trips and other types of punishment. In order for a relationship with an Intimidator to be more satisfying, she says, the Intimidator will need to alter his way of relating. Yeah, right.
Stress response
Much of this book describes sample cases of gaslightees trying to understand and cope with gaslighters. I’m sure this helps people realize and identify what is going on in these relationships.
The book, however, falls down when Dr. Stern explains why this behavior happens. She writes, “Gaslighting is a response to stress; people become either gaslighters or gaslightees when they feel threatened.”
Sociopaths don’t engage in gaslighting because they’re stressed. They engage in it because it’s who they are and what they do. And victims don’t become gaslightees because of stress. They are trapped because of a psychopathic bond created by the predator.
Then, Dr. Stern asks the reader to be honest:
Think about the ways in which you aren’t being your best self. Do you set off your gaslighter by being overly critical or demanding? Do you belittle your gaslighter or play on his vulnerabilities? Do you say or do things that you know will make him crazy?
Gee, the people I hear from are walking on eggshells trying not to set the guy off. Until, of course, it gets so bad that they have not choice but to explode.
What’s your view?
In the last chapter, Dr. Stern offers three courses of action for people in these situations: Changing the gaslighting relationship from within, limiting a gaslighting relationship, or leaving the relationship. Yes, these are the three choices, and the book offers suggestions on how to decide what to do.
When considering whether to stay in the relationship and change it from within, Dr. Stern reminds the reader to be compassionate, both for herself and the gaslighter. She writes:
You don’t have to put up with unlimited bad treatment, but if your gaslighter persists in gaslighting you, you can remind yourself that he is also suffering, perhaps even more than you are. After all, he almost certainly grew up in a home where he was gaslighted by someone and couldn’t make it stop—so now he doesn’t understand why you have the power to say no.
Is this true? I am asking an honest question of Lovefraud readers here, and I would appreciate your feedback. Have any of you ever been subjected to gaslighting by someone who was basically a good person with problems? Can any of you attribute gaslighting behavior to the perpetrator’s stress or internal pain? Or, do you feel that gaslighting behavior is due to sociopathic traits?
Afraid to recommend
Overall, I have mixed feelings about this book, The Gaslight Effect. The author does a good job of explaining what the behavior looks like, and the questions victims should ask themselves to determine what is really going on. She offers strategies for coping with the behavior, including leaving the relationship.
But Dr. Stern seems to come from that school of therapy that believes both parties contribute equally to relationship problems. Throughout the entire book, I kept waiting for the author to warn the reader that some gaslighters have dangerous, pathological personality disorders, and they should run, not walk, for the nearest exit. The warning never came.
Therefore, I’m afraid to recommend the book, because it may encourage people to stay and try to work things out with an abuser. And the longer people stay in a gaslighting relationship, the more power they lose, and the harder it is to finally leave.
LATER PEEPS!!!
LL….Not sure…but when I posted something a few days ago…referring to MY issues from my childhood…you stated that you came from a “very loving family”???
As I read some of your posts on this thread…it seems there were some very significant issues in your childhood that, in MY opinion, may have contributed to you being attracted to abuse???
Maybe I’m wrong.
S1 you silly SILLY goose!!!
I know ya do chica. I’m not worried about it. ROFLOL!!!! Walk away from a supportive fam LOL!
Wanna hear something funny S1? I asked my father to be let out of the will. He told me he was making me executor and he did. Then “love bombed” me because he was having back surgery because no one else wanted to take care of his ass, which I did. Well when Spath sis and bro found out, they swooped down and were all over that shiat like vultures LOL!!!! I KNEW they would do it too. So rewind.
When bio Mom died of lung cancer, unbeknownst to me, spathy sis and bro headed up the hospital the day before she died and fed her aline of bullshit about how I was irresponsible with money and not to give me a dime. They further said they would use my portion of the money to leave in trust for my children (Spathy sis stole it), which they did not. So TWENTY HOURS BEFORE SHE DIED SHE SIGNED THAT EFFING WILL!!! Can anyone say COERCION? Yep, that’s my lovely fam. At the time, it was absolutely devastating after all the things my mother had done to see to my lack of safety as a child, but if there was ANYONE who deserved ANYTHING from her estate it was me. I got NADA. They took all the furniture, all the pictures. All of it. Gave me NOTHING. That was a wound that took me YEARS to get over.
So with this situation with Spathydaddy, I decided that I would cut and run before any wounds would happen. I knew spathydaddy would choose spathychildren to take to the park, so I told him I wanted out. At first he told me I couldn’t tell him what to do with his money LOL!!!!! But the spathysibs, of course, LOVED that Iwanted out and encouraged it. My “foster” parents, who DO love me like their own child, (I’m so blessed to have them inmy life), knew my father and were absolutely astounded at his treatment of me. A few times in front of them. BUT,they did say I should NOT have asked to be taken out of the will because if anyone deserved any “compensation” for the lifetime of abuse,it was me…..but ya know what? I could let it go. Because money for them, was about control. They were angry, not because I wanted out, but because they lost CONTROL of the scapegoat. My father could no longer manipulate me and spathysibs could have their money and not “plan” deviously to wound me with another jarring hit with a will or intentions of it, behind my back.
You see………..I care more for me,than I do for them now.
Oh, funnier than shiat conclusion to what happened to Mom’s money. Brother spent his in three weeks on his coke habit. My sis spent hers off work for a year drunk.
Sounds responsible to me, don’t ya think? Oh and loving too 🙂
to be
I don’t think it was me who said I come from a loving family LOL!
Bio fam was an absolute NIGHTMARE.
I DO have a “foster” family, two people I now call my parents and are VERY loving! THAT I DO have now!
Def not bio.
To be, you would be correct, I definitely think that they do. Much like Ox, I’ve lived with “spathy” people all of my life. Last POS was the LAST of the toxins. We shall see how it goes from here. 🙂
Sky, your sister sounds like mine, but she was the black sheep. She was very invalidated as a child (told that she was the worst daughter any mother could ever have), mainly because she was not meek and compliant like me, who became the golden child. Trouble is, I learnt to avoid other people’s anger and give my power away, thinking that it was the right thing to do (I got rewarded for it, not just by my mother but by every other authority growing up). My sister has only ever had perfect gentlemen for partners and she rules the roost.
When I left ex, I had to cut contact with her for a while because her comments were very ruthless, eg. “anyone with a sensible mind would’ve kicked him out ages ago – what’s wrong with you” I talk to her now, and she insists ex is evil. I ask my friends, and they say no he isn’t, he just happens to think he is great and entitled to receive our adulation. He is definitely not a cold callous calculating predator – more like an emotional predator who needs the approval of others. Sounds co-dependent himself!
I think my brother has had trouble moving forward because he seems to be surrounded by people who are toxic and he gets re-injured but for some reason finds it hard to detach from his community. He is always resentful at being told he is wrong when he knows he is right and wishes he could be not as compliant or frozen when he feels rebuked. Legalistic religious folk tend to do that to others and he has been bruised by such people. I have recommended Betrayal Bond, which I have read reviews of but haven’t read through myself.
I think I have had a problem with self-directing too. Which is why this whole journey to uncover abuse is great – I had to make those tough decisions to leave the relationship and go against the ex who always made the big decisions. There were also many voices trying to tell me what to do. I still get a few calls a week from people trying to advise me what to do. But to my surprise, my world didn’t end. I don’t need their approval!
It’s scary but it’s a fantastic feeling, regaining yourself.
LL,
OMG! SPATHS TO THE MAX. I hope your s-siblings enjoyed their drugs! shiat!
A big part of my spath sister’s issues is that she wants to inherit EVERYTHING. My parents would never do that, so she actually wants everyone dead so she will get everything. This is very obvious to me now. She has turned into an evil bitch since she married the trojan-P. She was no prize before, but now she is hellish. Might be best if I do disappear.
Not too late,
your sister sounds great! maybe it’s tough love but at least it’s the truth.
Leaving my exP was like finally letting go of the branch that I was clinging to in a raging river. It was barely keeping me afloat, I was slowly drowning. When I let go, I just floated off- there is no direction, just chaotic splashing around in the white water rapids. that’s where I’m at now. It’s like I don’t want to make decisions because for 25 years those decisions were so wrong.
Sky,
Great post and good sharing with Not too late!
I like your example of floating off in a raging river. Boy does THAT resonate with me chica!
Sky, um, yea, spathy to the maximum amount of Spathiness 🙂
I’m finding that my very survival, ability to see through all of that, is turning into the greatest miracle and symbol of God’s grace in and over my life.
Amen and amen 🙂
LL,
Interestingly enough, the funny thing is my P-sperm donor finally became a multi-millionaire and I did not want a dime from him, if he had left me 100 million bucks I would not have wanted a dime, because it was blood money, and I would have given it all away. there was a time I would have felt it was compensation but by the time he died, I really didn’t want it. He deliberately left both me and two of my 3 half sibs out of his will and left it all to the P-half bro, but that is just fine with me. I don’t want or need his $$$$.
Same with egg donor—I don’t want her money, don’t need it, would live in a ditch first and eat out of a dumpster, yet she kept offering me money—-to BUY CONTROL, but I am not for sale.
You are better off without their money or their control, let the money go to whom ever they want to give it to, my money will go to who I want it to go to, I earned it, and I’ll spend or bequeath it the way I want to. I am not required to leave it to anyone because I gave birth to them. I don’t want any one’s money because they gave birth to me or contributed to my DNA.
You are better off!
Nottoolate,
About your comment that your ex spath said about what people do to cooperate after the divorce, pure b.s. but you know that. There is no ‘normal’ visitation with them, no ‘normal’ friendship or any kind of interaction. Mine also read a book on divorce and that gave him ammunition to tell me how hard it is on kids and how horrible I was for breaking up the family. Then he added all sorts of skewed statistics to further my guilty feelings. Yeppers, they love, love using the self help divorce knowledge for their advantage. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with a healthy relationship.
I wanted you to know that I am experiencing the same crapola right now. He just wants to be fair to me, yeah, right. I could sell you some swampland in the Sahara too.
Oxy,
Egg donor wanted you to pretend it never happened? Well isn’t that special. Mine as well. “Lets just go forward, if you just believe in me, start over, re-new our vows.” In other words, pretend everything is great with a pedophile creeper who wants to put me in the bin. Yep, sounds great! (Feeling sarcastic tonight) Oh-my counselor said yesterday that I’m not a victim anymore! Affirmation and validation right there!
Lesson learned,
Way to hold your ground and not let your disordered dad use you for money. It may keep a roof over our heads but it’s not worth our souls. You had something deep within you that knew you didn’t want to play the game. That’s why you were able to get out of those relationshits, you need a HUGE pat on the back for having the courage to do it. Some people don’t get out and are seriously stuck forever.
Skylar,
I hear you with the indecision and hesitation when trusting yourself and your instincts. When you posted (not sure where) about the ex spath and washing out his truck, I was seriously creeped out. I wonder how much you didn’t know about him and never want to know.
But with not being able to trust your decision making process, you are making decisions, and good ones. You have come out of your shell and started offering some kick butt advice here on LF. That decision is a great one and I for one, am grateful. The more I hear about your story, the more I realize how duped you were and how very hard it is for you to know whom to trust. It’s a process and I hope to be able to trust myself and my decision making one day, but that is still a long way in the future. I’m glad you are sharing Skylar!
Dear Hope4joy,
Yep, ain’t that SPECIAL? They are just so forgiving of our letting them down aren’t they?!!! LOL I used you as an example in another post on another thread, I hope you were not offended with me talking “about” you—but it was an example of how you were not ready to take my advice and I wanted you to so much, and the problem was MINE, not yours. YOU moved at the pace that was right for YOU. Anyway, didn’t mean any disrespect to you, and wanted you to know that. I AM so proud of how you are doing and glad your counselor sees improvement in you as well. I validate her validation! LOL