It’s amazing how people can have differing opinions of the same book. Last May, the Lovefraud Reader Ox Drover wrote a review of The Gaslight Effect, by Dr. Robin Stern. I am always on the lookout for books that will help readers understand, and recover from, a traumatic entanglement with a sociopath. Because Oxy was so complimentary about The Gaslight Effect, I was anxious to read it, and possibly recommend it to others.
Well, I read the book, but I’m not sure I can recommend it.
Oxy did point out that Dr. Stern never mentions the word, “sociopath,” referring to the perpetrator as the “gaslighter,” and the victim as the “gaslightee.” Although Oxy was willing to look past this omission, I’m not.
First of all, let’s define “gaslighting.” According to Wikipedia:
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented to the victim with the intent of making them doubt their own memory and perception. It may simply be the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, or it could be the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.
Gaslighting is nasty behavior. The problem I have with this book is that Dr. Stern never, ever mentions, not once, that a person who is gaslighting someone else may be malicious, controlling, and intent on destroying the soul of the victim. She does not mention that the gaslighter may be mentally and emotionally abusing someone else, simply for his or her amusement. She does not say that the gaslighter may be evil.
Here’s how Dr. Stern defines the gaslighting relationship:
The Gaslight Effect results from a relationship between two people: a gaslighter, who needs to be right in order to preserve his own sense of self and his sense of having power in the world; and a gaslightee, who allows the gaslighter to define her sense of reality because she idealizes him and seeks his approval.
This definition makes it seem like the two parties—gaslighter and gaslightee—are equally responsible for the dynamics. I don’t think that’s true. Then, a few pages later, Dr. Stern writes:
Of course, neither of you may be aware of what’s really happening. The gaslighter may genuinely believe every word he tells you or sincerely feel that he’s only saving you from yourself. Remember: He’s being driven by his own needs. Your gaslighter might seem like a strong, powerful man, or he may appear to be an insecure, tantrum-throwing little boy; either way, he feels weak and powerless. To feel powerful and safe, he has to prove that he is right, and he has to get you to agree with him.
Excuse me while I barf. Sociopaths who engage in gaslighting do not feel weak and powerless. They are motivated by dominance and feel totally entitled to do what they want and take what they want, even if it is someone else’s sanity.
Three types of gaslighters
Next, Dr. Stern describes three types of gaslighters—the Glamour Gaslighter, the Good-Guy Gaslighter, and the Intimidator. She spends the most time describing the Glamour Gaslighter:
He lets you know you’re the most wonderful woman in the world, the only one who’s ever understood him, the fairy-tale princess who has magically transformed his life. He’ll transform your life, too, he implies or even promises, he’ll shower you with affection, take you to wonderful places, sweep you off your feet with gifts or intimate confessions or sexual attention of a kind you’ve never known before.
This is a perfect description of a sociopath in full seduction mode. But Dr. Stern doesn’t seem to get it. Instead, she explains that this man is in love with the idea of a relationship. He likes to be a leading man, and is looking for a leading lady to fill her part.
Dr. Stern describes the Good-Guy Gaslighter as someone who needs to appear reasonable and good, but is deeply committed to getting his own way. She spends the least amount of time describing the Intimidator, perhaps because the problems are so obvious—put-downs, yelling, bullying, guilt trips and other types of punishment. In order for a relationship with an Intimidator to be more satisfying, she says, the Intimidator will need to alter his way of relating. Yeah, right.
Stress response
Much of this book describes sample cases of gaslightees trying to understand and cope with gaslighters. I’m sure this helps people realize and identify what is going on in these relationships.
The book, however, falls down when Dr. Stern explains why this behavior happens. She writes, “Gaslighting is a response to stress; people become either gaslighters or gaslightees when they feel threatened.”
Sociopaths don’t engage in gaslighting because they’re stressed. They engage in it because it’s who they are and what they do. And victims don’t become gaslightees because of stress. They are trapped because of a psychopathic bond created by the predator.
Then, Dr. Stern asks the reader to be honest:
Think about the ways in which you aren’t being your best self. Do you set off your gaslighter by being overly critical or demanding? Do you belittle your gaslighter or play on his vulnerabilities? Do you say or do things that you know will make him crazy?
Gee, the people I hear from are walking on eggshells trying not to set the guy off. Until, of course, it gets so bad that they have not choice but to explode.
What’s your view?
In the last chapter, Dr. Stern offers three courses of action for people in these situations: Changing the gaslighting relationship from within, limiting a gaslighting relationship, or leaving the relationship. Yes, these are the three choices, and the book offers suggestions on how to decide what to do.
When considering whether to stay in the relationship and change it from within, Dr. Stern reminds the reader to be compassionate, both for herself and the gaslighter. She writes:
You don’t have to put up with unlimited bad treatment, but if your gaslighter persists in gaslighting you, you can remind yourself that he is also suffering, perhaps even more than you are. After all, he almost certainly grew up in a home where he was gaslighted by someone and couldn’t make it stop—so now he doesn’t understand why you have the power to say no.
Is this true? I am asking an honest question of Lovefraud readers here, and I would appreciate your feedback. Have any of you ever been subjected to gaslighting by someone who was basically a good person with problems? Can any of you attribute gaslighting behavior to the perpetrator’s stress or internal pain? Or, do you feel that gaslighting behavior is due to sociopathic traits?
Afraid to recommend
Overall, I have mixed feelings about this book, The Gaslight Effect. The author does a good job of explaining what the behavior looks like, and the questions victims should ask themselves to determine what is really going on. She offers strategies for coping with the behavior, including leaving the relationship.
But Dr. Stern seems to come from that school of therapy that believes both parties contribute equally to relationship problems. Throughout the entire book, I kept waiting for the author to warn the reader that some gaslighters have dangerous, pathological personality disorders, and they should run, not walk, for the nearest exit. The warning never came.
Therefore, I’m afraid to recommend the book, because it may encourage people to stay and try to work things out with an abuser. And the longer people stay in a gaslighting relationship, the more power they lose, and the harder it is to finally leave.
to be, that’s great! My kids are half hispanic. 🙂
My son makes the MOST delicious meals too. I make the BEST beans and rice……..well for a white girl learning from her ex spath father in law LOL!!!
It’s good that you’re finding happiness and purpose.
I’m almost envious of what has happened to your ex POS. Sure wish that was the deal with mine. That’s also so hard for me, this image of him and his “stability”……….beautiful home, nice car……..good job…………shit………
LL…First of all, don’t say that today you are STUCK again…just keep posting!!! Its all part of healing.
When my mother died…I had to talk about her all of the time…had to process the whole thing…(she was abusive but in the end I did feel sorry for her…67, DEAD)
She was such an angry woman and I believe that she brought cancer on by her thoughts…always critical and angry. She had an awful childhood too…and then repeated the pattern.
Anyway…you cannot expect to be where I am now…I HAD to go through the stages..and I did. I even went back with him twice after 5 months of NC!!!
If you don’t PROCESS this whole mess…talk about it…work it through..understand it all..what HE is and where YOUR head was at …during the r/s….then you won’t heal.
You are doing the right thing talking about it here..to people who understand. I learned NOT to talk about it to anyone who didn’t go through one.
Funny, but my babysitter when the girls were little..is about 24 now..along with my neice…same age…BOTH posted on FB about sociopaths! My neice actually vented anger and called the guy she was just with a sociopath. My babysitter posted about NOT following her gut instinct from the start…and then finding out she was right all along!!!
My xbf, a month ago..when I mentioned cheaters…said…”Every man cheats and it doesn’t make a man a BAD MAN” OMG!!!!!
He just buried himself in my book!
So, you see why it is so easy for me to CHOOSE not to ever entertain the thought of seeing him again. I said to myself…”2b…he is pathetic. I’m done”
But, for you…yes, you need to NOT think of the good things..the words….the “dream” you were in…the illusiion…the fantasy.
Time to wake up….be true to YOURSELF….and admit your TRUE feelings during the relationship…..You weren’t happy, ….with him. It was painful.
Its less painful to be without him…I decided.
LL, also…..
My g/f lived in Florida and is a psychologist and hooked up with a charming counselor where she worked. Long story short…a week before the wedding…found out that he was still married…never told her about the first marriage either..or that he was in jail for beating her up….OMG…
She cancelled the wedding of course…and went through what we are going through. She is fine…happy, and moving back up to NJ!!
THEY are out there!!!! This is why I am so happy that Donna is beginning to educate our kids today!!!
to be,
WOW! Good thing she got out in time and is HAPPY to boot?? Holy crap that’s scary!!!
I WISH I could move OUT of this city! But I don’t care what it takes, I’m going to do what feels right and safe for me right now until I can get to a place where I can go out and NOT feel “threatened”. I think I fear him so much, I don’t WANT to run into him. I think I fear myself too. I am so afraid of having a melt down and then losing it and trying to contact him. I can’t do that. He made me out to be a stalker and actually, come to think of it, I WAS and THAT WAS THE IDEA THE WHOLE TIME!! He literally drove me CRAZY with his secretiveness and lies. It was just insane!!!I think he LOVED that i went begging him back every single time. I don’tknow whether to feel envious of those whose spaths come back or blessed that mine wasn’t “interested” in me enough to do it LOL!!! There were times when he was without supply that he’d text me or IM me out of the blue, but mainly it was me. Safety is key right now for me. I hang, I feel in a fragile balance. I’m very very much committed to my NC and integrating more of what I’m learning to untwist all the twisting (brainwashing) he’s done. Well, you know to be.
SO you just went NC yourself and you’ve come this far tobe?
Amazing…………
LL……Don’t forget I went NC back in July to October of 2009…then again from Feb to July 2010…
Since July, I only spoke to him on the phone and saw him as a “friend” . I didn’t want to get involved with him on HIS terms this last time. I wanted to see, if I didn’t get “bonded” (through sex) this time around…if he was really going to be truthful and honest with me. When we got together to talk in July, I told him that the profiles on dating sites is not right if you are involved with someone seriously and he said he would take them off…and he showed me the cancelled membership…on ONE of them. (DUH!!).
I wanted to see if I really still loved him as a friend and if I could trust him. I couldn’t.
Even though he called me all day, and texted me, and we went out a few times to the movies and A/C….I did NOT trust him at all. I was testing him. He failed the test.
Lots of little things…..he lied and lied and I just kept talking to him as a friend. Then when I asked to see him on MY terms…and he wouldn’t give up “his” things…the gym..etc…to see me…I said…”Lets see if he wants to see me for the holidays…which he refuses to celebrate…and he didn’t make plans to see me. So, by Thanksgiving….it was really over. I did NOT invite him to my family, since they all hate him and see right through him. Then, I made my OWN plans this year for xmas eve and day and new years. WITHOUT him.
We still spoke on the phone..and he love bombed me with words…and I just went along with it…saying to myself…”Yeah right”. Then he surprised me…Mr. Scrooge who never bought me a gift for xmas…said he had something for me…and it wasn’t the watch..I told you that story! lol
He failed the last test. He proved that he was a using liar and I drove off…he called me to make plans to see me after New Years’s ….I told him” NO, What for?” He mumbled and went to hang up on me angry and I beat him to it. I hung up .
On NEw Years Day…he called and texted me ..”.What are you mad about now? THIS is what I mean about you”
ME???? LOL!!!! He was already twisting it all around…to blame me…and I’d usually admit it WAS me….but this time…I haven’t answered him and do NOT plan to ever talk/see him again……not even attend his funeral!
If I think of some “good times”….which I refuse to go there….because it was all an illusion….a fake….or him temporarily becoming HUMAN…lol…I would feel he still cared.
NO NO NO>>>>All I have to do is think of the lies..and its over in my head and heart.
Why didn’t I think this way from the start? With the first lie???
Because I was confused. I was believing the WORDS.
Anyone can talk and say anything…..I learned that people do lie…and NEVER to believe anything unless its proved by actions.
So..this is why I am “so far” in recovery. I really don’t like him or anyone in my life who doesn’t care about ME.
Thats my New Years Resolution….Be true to ME ME ME.
Lesson Learned,
Yes – the spiritual abuse, these psychopaths know some scripture but always leave the punchline out! it is very pathetic and it sure plays on our heads. Jimmy used the ‘wives submit to your husbands’ (among many other scriptures he used, got really severe almost at the end of our marriage) , but left the punchline out ‘husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and willing to give Himself up for her’ and the scripture continues about husbands love your wives, He was giving the husbands a huge hint lol. He did not know the Bible well and unfortunately I didn’t either, but there are many scriptures in the Bible to warn us of who to hang out with and who not to hang out with, as well as deceivers and their fruits and to keep us safe.
With all types of abuse including spiritual abuse there is a great book I came across some time ago ‘Mending the Soul’ by Steven R.Tracy, I actually got it from a Christian TV program that offered it, it’s a very, very good book-healing from all forms of abuse, as a child to adult, I got it when me and my husband were together, knowing that he was abusing me-didn’t accept at that time he was a predator–or even a psychopath, was still being brainwashed…he got a hold of the book and had a rage and then hid the book from me, it exposed his very shameful behavior, but I found the book – he wrote some disgusting stuff in the book, then I hid it- shortly after I demanded him to move out of the house due to his abusiveness in 2008, he convinced me for us to be together -spiritual abuse again he said ‘God put us together, He has some wonderful plans for us’, now I know that God would never, never put anybody with a psychopathic abusive predator and anybody else that is abusive YUKES! (he moved out but we didn’t live together)-then shortly after continued to see him, not letting go back then-he never, ever took responsibility for his behavior, they never do.
It takes time to heal from spiritual abuse too, the only powerful tool one can find for anything would be in the Bible-everything is in there
And yes I believe God’s grace extends to everyone (through Jesus Christ) and God’s grace spares us from this type of evil as well, He tries to get it through us not to go there but because of free will we make choices that are destructive to us unknowingly and knowingly sometimes and I think it grieves the Lord but there is restoration, healing and justice !!!!! 🙂
free,
That was a beautiful post!!! Thank you for taking the time to write that out to me, it was JUST the encouragement I needed to nourish my spiritual side 🙂
My ex POS has a Bachelor’s in theology (never did anything with it) and a license to marry and to bury (never did anything with it). He has a bazillion bibles on his book shelf,but they’re covered in dust and he doesn’t pick them up. He also has one bedside with that little booklet “Our Daily Bread” (which I love) but I don’t think he really reads it. If he does, he does not apply it to his life, obviously. SOmeone with that much knowledge about biblical applications and scripture cannot even apply it to the simplest of sentences in that the lies are aplenty. I find that very interesting.
What is even more interesting is that whenever I wanted to talk about spirituality or the Lord, he would not discuss it with me. I don’t know why. There are a lot of things that ring bells now,but for as “moral” as he appeared to me as friends before we became intimate, that was definitely NOT the case.
My spirituality is very basic right now. I have yet to pick up my bible or at least looking at it without wanting to fall apart. My prayers now are just so simple and basic, mainly, “Lord please help me understand,please protect me, thank you for your grace and immeasurable love for me and help me to do your will”
That’s about it. I know God knows my heart and that He’s in the midst of changing it. Purging it I think….
I’m glad you got away from that free. do you feel your faith has increased since your NC from spath?
Oxy –
“I had to DISASSOCIATE myself from the church congregation where I had attended …because my egg donor (I used to call her mother) had fooled the people there so bad and convinced them that I was the bad person abusing her. …I had NO CHOICE but to move from there. It hurt, but it was my only choice, and I think you are in the same position.”
Me too. My spath (who was not a member, nor a “believer” of my faith) infiltrated my church, began to have a “Bible study” with another member and used the contacts he made to slander me and to minimise the amount of compassion and trust and care that would otherwise have been extended to me by various members of my former congregation.
I didn’t blame them for being confused and cautious – after all, their experience with someone like my spath was even less than mine was, and he managed to confuse and trick ME for around 8 years. All they were trying to do was to remain neutral and help both of us; but what they did not get was that he was so thoroughly and intentionally evil, that his slander of one of their existing “flock” ought to have instigated more of their protection toward me, not less – as was sadly the case.
It then reached a point where he had got inside the head of one of the church elders, who turned on me with accusations made by the spath. I could have stayed and argued the point, but was by that time so deeply drowning in PTSD that I had neither the strength nor the inclination to do so. Their confusion hurt me so badly – I had done nothing to earn their distrust or to cause them to questions any of my actions or motives.
I love my God and still hold true to my faith (despite not living exactly by it at the moment). I will go back one day, when the time is right and when I feel it is safe to do so and once my life is again in harmony with the things I really believe to be true.
But not yet; I’m not quite healed. Nearly, but not quite.
tobehappy –
“I am writing a book about my life”whether it gets published or not”is a matter of fate”but I am writing it.
In it..I speak about my xhusb sociopath”.”
Me too! A number of us seem to be on this path, so I vote that when we are done, we at least send copies of the finished product to one another, even if we are never otherwise “published”! We all have so much to learn from one another.
LL –
“It’s all just too raw yet. But I did make it through that experience today.”
Yep. You are doing better every day honey! Keep it up. xx
“I’m almost envious of what has happened to your ex POS. Sure wish that was the deal with mine. That’s also so hard for me, this image of him and his “stability——.beautiful home, nice car—..good job”
I’d like to add: zero personality, filthy morals, disgusting habits, dubious “skills”, scandalous “achievements”, parasitic lifestyle, general unworthiness…. (care to add some more? I’ll bet you don’t feel the least bit envious of THESE things…)
Ox,
Good point. Guess you’d be right about that. Your book would be good Ox, as your experiences with these people have been many and so extreme. I like how you eloquently and honestly spoke of how you feel about God and faith. I think that’s where I’m at right now. I love my God too. I know He knows that and I DO feel his love and grace in my life. It’s the well meaning people he serves that I have trouble with or those that faked that they do, my last POS is a classic example of what I mean when I say spaths can and do infiltrate churches and disrupt, damage and lead otherwise well meaning innocent others astray…mine appeared moral and upright, serving on his church board. And no one knew until his wife exposed him. Even AFTER she had and even AFTER they were aware of whom he is/was, he STILL DENIED HIS EVIL!!!
His moral piousness and appearance was one of the reasons I was so attracted to him in the first place. He was God. He knew it all, had it all…..except a wife who loved him POS.
Thanks Ox. I’m tryin. It’s sure a lot of hard work though, ya know?
Ox, what exactly is the definition of the term parasitic lifestyle. You mentioned it in your post and I’ve seen it on the blog before. Definition?