It’s disconcerting, no question about it, working with someone who’s antisocial, with real sociopathic qualities (forgetting, again, for the moment, the hell of living with such an individual).
Recently, I’m struck again, in my work with a client I’ll call Howard, by the brew of certain qualities, certain attitudes, certain defenses that strike me as forming a rather sociopathic orientation.
Howard is 19. He understands the suffering he’s causing others in his life: he can “talk the talk,” meaning that he “gets it” on a cognitive level. He can say, for instance, quite accurately, what he’s doing, why it’s wrong, that it’s wrong, even that he feels bad about it.
How badly he really feels is highly debatable. In my view, not nearly as badly as he claims, and certainly not nearly badly enough to make real efforts at change. In our sessions, I confront him regularly with my perception of the discrepancy between his assertions of remorse and regret, and what he’s really willing to do about them?
I see him as someone who can hear my challenges without reacting very defensively. His undefensiveness may seem like a good quality, and maybe it is; but it’s also likely that it stems, to some extent, from his ultimate unconcern with what I feel about, and think, of him. That is, I suspect it stems in part, at least, from his relative indifference to my (or anyone’s) view of him.
When I say he’s undefensive, I mean this specifically with regard to how he fields my confrontations. He is fairly placid in his absorption of them. On another level, though, he’s quite defensive in a classically narcissistic/sociopathic fashion: On one hand, as I’ve noted, he can seem remorseful (quite regretful) for his misbehaviors and abusive attitudes. But if you should probe him at all—not just accept his statements of remorse at face value—he predictably lapses into his truer position: this is a position from which his abusiveness is always, ultimately, rationalized as a response to his perceiving himself as having been victimized, persecuted or otherwise treated unfairly in some fashion.
Now he is canny enough to attempt to disguise this pattern, especially with initial assertions of politically correct sounding accountability. But always, with a little prodding, you will bring him back to his true experience in which self-justification for his abusiveness and an attitude of unaccountability prevail.
Just as noteworthy: no matter how many times you point out to him how rapidly he shifts from taking “seeming” responsibility for his behavior to abruptly abdicating responsibility for the same behavior (again, rationalizing it as a response to others’ persecution), he is rather uninterested in this contradiction and basically unconcerned to reconcile it. He just doesn’t find this contradiction particularly troubling, peculiar, meaningful, or worth his time to look at.
This is a highly sociopathic quality and attitude.
It seems to reflect the “glitch” that allows this personality, in his blithely untroubled, incurious fashion, to verbalize awareness and regret over his abusiveness and exploitiveness on the one hand, while on the other (almost simultaneously) to rationalize it as a valid reaction to his perceived, or contrived, victimization.
When I confront him routinely with this contradiction, he may give lip service to the validity of my observation; but always, his interest to explore it, to own its possible ramifications, is superficial and transient.
Similarly, he will periodically assert his desire to cease his hurtful behaviors; then, in the next minute or so, when presented with evidence that he’s continued the very behaviors he’s claimed to want to cease, he may say something like, “Well, maybe I’m really not that motivated. To be honest, I’m really not.”
The honesty itself could almost be seen as admirable. But the problem lies in his blithe disinterest in the rapid, contradictory nature of his assertions. He isn’t embarrassed by this. Point it out to him and he’s almost bored, like a kid who’ll say, when inconvenienced, “Whatever.”
I regard this pattern as a sociopathic form of indifference to the contradiction between one’s statements, and between one’s statements and ongoing actions. What’s striking isn’t the contradictory content itself, but the missing shame and embarrassment when confronted with the nature of the discrepant communications.
This can leave me shaking my head, privately, in a kind of amazement. But even if I were to shake my head in visible amazement, while Howard might notice it, and might understand why he’s left me shaking my head, you can bet he wouldn’t care to make any more sense of himself to me than he cares to make sense of himself to himself—which is very little.
(This article is copyrighted © 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake, not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
I may not actually dump that particular friend — for a few reasons I won’t go into — but I think now I can see what her problem is and know what I’m dealing with, and set a reasonable distance on it. No blame, no shame, on her, whether she deserves it or not. Just, this is what this is. If it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. Treat it like a duck. Don’t stand under it and get pooped on. Don’t try to ride it across the water like a dolphin. Feed it bread, not steaks. It’s just a duck.
Thank you again for expressing it all so clearly. Feel my sanity returning!
Ox Drover I have lived with a psychopath for 12 years. It was my choice as I forgave him constantly and believed in him. When he said that he loved me and would do so till the day he died, I was stupid enough to believe him. He was a persistent liar and used these sayings to manipulate me.
The truth will set you free. I tell you lies you dont believe me, I tell you the truth you dont believe me. Love found you, you didnt find love. I am not a bad man, I am proud of what Ive done. Its not all about you.
I had no idea what a psychopath was or that they existed, and that was my problem. Had I been told I would have got out and not gone through the pain that was constantly inflicted on me.
Interesting what the bible says. I believe like you. I used to think that maybe these people with a seared conscience were no longer around. Yes they are, and I lived with one. It is my mission to tell others about these people and warn them of their tactics. Everyone knows one! Isnt that amazing. Someone recently said to me that their criminal behaviour is so well hidden, as they psychologically and emotionally abuse you which is worst than murder. There is no punishment for their crime. They will never change.
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Welcome Frankie:
I was talking to a retired Police Drug detective on Sunday.
She said that problem is…….you have to be intimate with them, living with the constant deceit in order to see it.
I told her my analogy of ‘watering’ themselves down……and they can’t water down so much when you live with them, hear them on the phone, see them with family, friends etc…..in real full time life.
She said…..yep……and there just isn’t enough funding to investigate these types, unless they murder. And even then…..most of ‘who’ they are is still not uncovered…..just enough for hopefully a conviction…..and move on to the next case.
So really……..very few people get to know exactly ‘who’ they are.
This, for me, has been the interesting and essential part…..I wanna know, I wanna be able to spot what I can in others…..and in the former H spath. I wanna know it all, I wanna know how I arrived at ‘today’, in order to change my direction into my tomorrows.
Frankie, I can certainly relate…. I will always be the ‘love of his life’ to my spath. He guarenteed that vocally to everyone upon his departure!
What a chump!
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