Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail from a reader who we’ll call Carla:
Can you help me with co-parenting with a sociopath? Divorced three months ago, after a two-year fight for my rights. He is not complying as you know.
I am going crazy with the way he only shows his wonderful, smooth qualities to the children. I have three boys. I can’t stand sending them on weekends to a man who never calls them for two weeks and then lavishes them with charm and gifts. It makes me sick that I am struggling because he has not released even one of 26 accounts to me as decreed in the divorce settlement. He pays my bills and deducts them from the alimony. He follows the agreement under his own conditions and it confuses the attorneys. He won’t discuss the children with me or offer any assistance to them as a father. He is 100 percent focused on his new victim, his girlfriend, a new young, widow. Spending all the money he hid on her. But the kids have “buddy” to whisk them from one expensive activity to another while I am struggling to pay the bills.
I have greater anxiety now than when we were married. He openly emotionally abuses me. Before it was more covert and I got immune to the invalidation and blame. NOW I am discarded since I chose not to play by his rules of cheating, drugs, gambling, lying, withholding sex. He isn’t nice to me at all. Cruel. It was easier being married. He did all these things and he kept me blinded by being secretive and giving me a high-income surgeon’s wife lifestyle. I know the secrets now along with my attorney but he looks perfect in the community.
I miss the financial security and vacations. Now someone else shares those things with him and all I did was give him three beautiful children to brag about and add to his narcissism.
I say terrible things about him to the two older children, ages 6 and 13. I tell them how he is not following the agreement, lying and spending money on drugs and women.
Is so frustrating. I see what is real but no one else does. I am afraid my children are going to prefer him (and his girlfriend) because he is so charming and generous and I know he is pathological and I can’t give them the expensive gifts and ultra stimulating activities.
How do you deal with the frustration that you are the only person who knows someone is a sociopath? I had to live 15 years with him to figure it out and go through four therapists until the last one nailed him as anti-social/schizoid personality disordered. Then I validated her “diagnosis” with Lovefraud. He has all the signs with a very high IQ and status of a medical professional to hide behind. Will anyone else ever figure it out? I don’t believe that what comes around goes around when it comes to a sociopath as intellectually clever as my ex-husband. I do have a few very perspective people who picked up on it. I don’t think my kids will ever see it and I think he will destroy me even post-divorce. Why is he so relentless? He has his freedom and his money. Why not leave me alone? Is it because I get one-third of his income in alimony?
After the divorce
Probably the most shocking thing about divorcing a sociopath is that even when it’s over, it’s not over. The attorneys have argued, the court has ruled, this is how it’s going to be—and it’s not. The sociopath doesn’t comply, twists things the way he or she wants them, uses children against the other parent, and no one seems to care.
This leaves the non-sociopathic partner—like Carla—angry with the sociopath, frustrated that he’s getting away with his lies and manipulation, and upset that he won’t do what he’s supposed to do, baffled that no one else sees the truth—all while still mourning the life she thought she had. Carla wants her ex to pay her what he’s supposed to and be a dad to their children. He’s not doing either, so she wants other people to know that behind his charming, successful veneer, he’s vile.
It’s a toxic brew of emotions. But the emotions will never affect the sociopath. They will only affect Carla, and possibly her children.
It seems to me that Carla needs to be able to separate what’s going on into four categories: financial considerations, the children, dealing with the ex and her emotional recovery.
Financial considerations
First of all, Carla needs to get her financial situation straightened out. If her ex is supposed to give her 26 accounts, she needs to get that enforced—soon, before the accounts are empty. I hope her attorneys put a time limit on when these accounts are supposed to be turned over, and specified exactly how much money she is supposed to receive. If not, she is in trouble.
Carla cannot allow her ex-husband to pay her bills. By letting him do this, she is allowing him to control her. He is deducting the money from her alimony? He is probably exaggerating the amount of the bills just to pay her less. Plus, he may decide to stop paying the bills, and she would never know it—until the cable service or electric is turned off. Carla must demand that she receive the full alimony, then get her bills in her own name.
Carla did not mention a house and mortgage. If the sociopath’s name is on the house or mortgage, that is a disaster waiting to happen. He may stop paying the mortgage and allow the house to slip into foreclosure. He wouldn’t care, but Carla would have no place to live.
The children
Carla complained that her ex won’t discuss the children with her and won’t offer any assistance as a father. He doesn’t call them during the week and only wants to play with them on his weekends. I’d recommend that Carla use this to her advantage.
Here is the bottom line: Sociopaths are terrible parents. At best, they view children as prized possession. At worst, they actively try to corrupt the children. Therefore, the less interaction a sociopath has with his or her children, the better.
Carla should actually be grateful that her ex is staying out of their children’s lives as much as he is. She should use her time with the children to shower them with love, nurture them and provide them with healthy guidance. None of that will happen when the boys are with their father. The kids will eventually sense that there is no real bond with the father. As time goes on, they may also witness him moving from girlfriend to girlfriend, and eventually start rolling their eyes at yet another one.
Carla needs to be their rock of stability. She also needs to stop badmouthing the father—even if he deserves it. This is important for two reasons. First is the emotional health of the children—they should not feel in the middle of her issues with the ex. Second, she does not want to give her ex the ammunition to come after her with a parental alienation lawsuit, in which she could lose custody of the boys.
Her best plan of action is the stay neutral about the father. One mother’s standard response whenever her children brought home news of the ex was a noncommittal, “That’s nice.”
Kids are smart. Sooner or later, they will realize that the sociopath cares only about himself.
Dealing with the ex
Carla asks, “Why is he so relentless? Why not leave me alone?”
Divorcing a sociopath is not like divorcing a relatively healthy person that you’ve just grown away from. In a normal divorce, mommy and daddy don’t want to be together anymore, but they can cooperate for the sake of the kids. This is not going to happen with a sociopath.
Sociopaths only want three things: Power, control and sex. Carla and the surgeon have divorced, but that doesn’t mean he has given up his desire for power and control.
Carla says her ex-husband is openly abusing her. She must eliminate his opportunities to do this and go No Contact with this man as much as possible. I don’t know if she is allowing him into her home, but she shouldn’t. The child exchange should be arranged to minimize interaction. Any communications regarding the children should be conducted via e-mail. Phone conversations give him opportunities to abuse her.
The key is for Carla to be strictly business. She must recognize that the sociopath will not play nice. He will do everything possible to avoid paying her. He will continue to manipulate her through the children. She must learn not to react when he baits her. She must learn to be calm and collected, yet make him toe the line on his court-ordered obligations.
Emotional recovery
All of this is pretty raw for Carla right now—the divorce was only three months ago. She is outraged. She is frustrated. Carla misses the status, money, vacations and cozy lifestyle of a surgeon’s wife. She is justifiably angry that he cheated and hid money, and probably still reeling from being devalued and discarded.
Realizing that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath has probably rocked Carla to the core. Nothing was real. Everything was a lie. And plenty of people in the community still believe the lie. This is a massive shock, and it takes time to come to terms with the magnitude of the deception.
Recovery is a process, and there is a lot of information here on the Lovefraud blog that may help Carla:
- She must realize that the ex is a sociopath, and this is the way he lives his life. Nothing she did or didn’t do would make any difference.
- She must realize that she was targeted, probably because of her good qualities.
- She must allow herself to feel her anger, disappointment, grief and even hatred—and then let it all go.
This will take time, and will probably come in waves—a wave of emotion, followed by a wave of calm. Eventually the emotional periods will be shorter, the calm periods will be longer.
Carla is in for many years of aggravation with this man. She needs to get to a point of equanimity, where his antics no longer affect her. When she gets there, no matter what the guy does, Carla wins.
nic,
I too remember how I stated to relate more to my belief system more after my end came with my ex s/p. But there were also times I wonder “where are U God?”. And was thinking about walking away this aspect of my life. I had so much pain and hurt I just couldn’t believe God would allow this. Once I remember throwing my bible on the floor yelling at God What do you want from me???? What are you trying to tell me????
I told my sister about how I was losing my faith and she made this statement: Jim, don’t it’s always been so helpful to you”. After she told me this and then gave it some thought I knew she was right and recapture my faith in God. I see now how something touches us in soooo many ways.
sorry
I see now how something touches us in soooo many ways.
s/b
I see now how something like this touches us in soooo many ways.
Nic, Thank you for clarifying. I will keep you posted too. My dear mother made a pact with God that if we win, I am going back to Law School to defend women like us. I accepted “her pact with G-d. mama knows best, LOL)
I can’t imagine how hard it may be to give your baby to a predator. I don’t know how to handle that day when it comes; my reactions to him are so over the top that I can’t imagine being a mother and giving my very child to him. Like you said, I wish the courts and mediators heard the mothers a bit more clearly. I hope we can chat before the 14th. If not, Good luck to you and please, let us know how everything went. Stay strong and play the psychopath game, I guess (who ever knows how to mimic feelings with such incredible deception…)
KATYA
God and/or a belief in a higher power can help us in healing. This is something I am a firm believer in.
Going back to school sounds good and hope you do. So win win!
Nic,
I just want to gently caution you about giving in to a settlement that is less than satisfactory. I have been advised by two attorneys that it is indeed a gamble with these personalities. The question is “How long are these guys willing to nose dive and crash in order to give us nothing? How long will they fight and what we we recover in the end?”
I KNOW this is what my husband is doing – he is waiting for me to break. Unfortunately, he will recover more easily with 2 businesses in place . I have a steady paycheck and I thank God for that.
I hope all works out for you.
Prayers are indeed required as well as good counseling.
Peace………….
It is easy to label someone a sociopath.
We don’t know enough about this guy to diagnose him, yet this blog entry assumes that this man is the vile human Carla makes him out to be.
It could just be that Carla’s extremely jealous and struggles with her own feelings of self-worth.
To my valuable compadres at LF…..
I want to share with you and I hope I can give this to you via osmosis…….
I have had the week from hell….BUT, once again…..I prevailed!!!
I persevered and I protected, I researched and I stood up!!!!
But, what I have been Taught thru this process, and, I swear I wish I could put my finger on it…..BUT…..Everything DOES turn out the way it should!!! It has been proven to me over and over and over and ……….
Okay heres the deal….
Went to court last week….Harassment and stalking order extended for a year. This is ON TOP of the TPO against Dom. violence. The judge had NO question about extending it. S didn’t show up, but sent a forged letter. Whatever….but…..what that letter provided me was more information…..it was full of accusations…..BUT, I separated myself out….didn’t take it peronal and decoded WHAT IT WAS HE WAS WARNING ME ABOUT!!!! He always tips me off…….because he can’t keep his mouth shut! He can’t be the snake behind the rock (i’m not complaining ) But he thinks he’s so ‘on top of it all’.
So, hearing behind me….7am next mornign I woke up with a horrid GUT (yes ROSA) gut feeling…..I had to take care of something I knew nothing about NOW!!! I couldn’t wait, I couldn’t stall……I had to take care of business ASAP!
I went thru statutes, senate bills, and called on people that could offer advice, legal etc……AND I GOTERDONE! Finished the process today….shazam, boom, boom bang! I cut him off from another angle of destroying me……FARKER!!!
BUT….all the little things since Sat that didn’t ‘cooperate’ with my plan…..missed a train, plane ticket went up from 150 to 572, sold out flights etc….I never even had to take that train or flight to get this accomplished. When I missed the train, I didn’t get upset….I trusted that it happened for a reason. Then drove to airport…..BOTH flights were over sold, so no standbye even…..then I looked at returning flight and saw teh price increase……OKAY, YA think someone was telling me something! I listened…..I am aware of when I need t o push, and when I push too hard…..I just don’t worry about when things do not go my way…..IT”S FOR A REASON.
I have always felt this way, but I will tell you……IT IS SOOOOO TRUE.
So my 2 cents are……do what you have to do…..geterdone…..but when things don’t go in the direction YOU think they should…. try to contain your emotions and not let it ‘get you down’….there is a BIGGER PICTURE! REALLY!!! GO WITH IT!
XXOO
Carla
Re your post from last Sat.
The part about your 6 year old telling you he loves you – and you linking this to some spurious comment from that slug – don’t let ‘his’ manipulations taint your view of your beautiful sweet child – this is what he wants/wanted.
The S I was involved with systematically alienated every male in my life (my brother, two males friends of the family and even my son, to a degree). All those nasty little put-downs, veiled criticisms – all mechanisms to undermine and isolate you. What was behind all that? Jealousy – jealousy that you have genuine affection of OTHER MALES. I have a theory that men see through S men in a way that women can’t. Ss ‘eliminate’ other males – it’s like some kind of primal behaviour. Don’t let him destablise and derail your relationship with your lovely child – at 6, they are so sweet – my baby girl used to put little pictures under my pillow – drawings of flowers with her baby scrawl ‘I love you mummy’ – she is now a beautiful young woman of 20 and in NO WAY a S/P/N – remember the mantra Carla – ‘YOUR TRUTH NOT HIS LIES’.
All love to you and keep posting for strength.
Newlife: Thanks for your caution. I have thought long and hard and my emotional and financial well-being are more important than fighting it out with my husband. It has been 2 years in and out of court and over 13,000. I am getting off because he is not asking me to pay any of his debt he accumulated during the marriage. Plus he found out that he could decrease my child support because his student loan debt is counted toward his income. He was going to try and do that but then he dropped it. So I have to move on and I am a firm believer in what goes around comes around. I am in a much better place and I just want it to be over.
I already know the statistics that men do much better after the divorce–financially speaking. But my husband is so frivolous with money. The more money he makes the more he spends. I tried to put him on a budget during the marriage but that didn’t work. So I am glad to be on my own-financially speaking.
Has anyone been doing visitation with a S for more than 3 years? I have been doing it for a year and I don’t know if I can take much more. Our daughter is only 3 and I can’t picture doing this much longer. He calls at the last minute to cancel, etc. Today he was to pick up our daughter and I had been calling him and texting him since 5:00. He called me at 6:00 to tell me that he was having his eyes examined. WTF!!!! I guess he just figured out that on his visitation day he needed his eyes examined. That is just crazy.
He then asked if he could get her early for a family reunion picnic on Sat. I was mad because I don’t think he had plans to take her but since he didn’t get her today he thought he would take her on Sat. There is no way I am allowing him to take her to a picnic. She always comes back sick, hungry or tired. I am so sick of him. He is a very poor excuse for a father. I just don’t know if I can make it through this. I am glad he didn’t show today though. The less contact the better.