Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail from a reader who we’ll call Carla:
Can you help me with co-parenting with a sociopath? Divorced three months ago, after a two-year fight for my rights. He is not complying as you know.
I am going crazy with the way he only shows his wonderful, smooth qualities to the children. I have three boys. I can’t stand sending them on weekends to a man who never calls them for two weeks and then lavishes them with charm and gifts. It makes me sick that I am struggling because he has not released even one of 26 accounts to me as decreed in the divorce settlement. He pays my bills and deducts them from the alimony. He follows the agreement under his own conditions and it confuses the attorneys. He won’t discuss the children with me or offer any assistance to them as a father. He is 100 percent focused on his new victim, his girlfriend, a new young, widow. Spending all the money he hid on her. But the kids have “buddy” to whisk them from one expensive activity to another while I am struggling to pay the bills.
I have greater anxiety now than when we were married. He openly emotionally abuses me. Before it was more covert and I got immune to the invalidation and blame. NOW I am discarded since I chose not to play by his rules of cheating, drugs, gambling, lying, withholding sex. He isn’t nice to me at all. Cruel. It was easier being married. He did all these things and he kept me blinded by being secretive and giving me a high-income surgeon’s wife lifestyle. I know the secrets now along with my attorney but he looks perfect in the community.
I miss the financial security and vacations. Now someone else shares those things with him and all I did was give him three beautiful children to brag about and add to his narcissism.
I say terrible things about him to the two older children, ages 6 and 13. I tell them how he is not following the agreement, lying and spending money on drugs and women.
Is so frustrating. I see what is real but no one else does. I am afraid my children are going to prefer him (and his girlfriend) because he is so charming and generous and I know he is pathological and I can’t give them the expensive gifts and ultra stimulating activities.
How do you deal with the frustration that you are the only person who knows someone is a sociopath? I had to live 15 years with him to figure it out and go through four therapists until the last one nailed him as anti-social/schizoid personality disordered. Then I validated her “diagnosis” with Lovefraud. He has all the signs with a very high IQ and status of a medical professional to hide behind. Will anyone else ever figure it out? I don’t believe that what comes around goes around when it comes to a sociopath as intellectually clever as my ex-husband. I do have a few very perspective people who picked up on it. I don’t think my kids will ever see it and I think he will destroy me even post-divorce. Why is he so relentless? He has his freedom and his money. Why not leave me alone? Is it because I get one-third of his income in alimony?
After the divorce
Probably the most shocking thing about divorcing a sociopath is that even when it’s over, it’s not over. The attorneys have argued, the court has ruled, this is how it’s going to be—and it’s not. The sociopath doesn’t comply, twists things the way he or she wants them, uses children against the other parent, and no one seems to care.
This leaves the non-sociopathic partner—like Carla—angry with the sociopath, frustrated that he’s getting away with his lies and manipulation, and upset that he won’t do what he’s supposed to do, baffled that no one else sees the truth—all while still mourning the life she thought she had. Carla wants her ex to pay her what he’s supposed to and be a dad to their children. He’s not doing either, so she wants other people to know that behind his charming, successful veneer, he’s vile.
It’s a toxic brew of emotions. But the emotions will never affect the sociopath. They will only affect Carla, and possibly her children.
It seems to me that Carla needs to be able to separate what’s going on into four categories: financial considerations, the children, dealing with the ex and her emotional recovery.
Financial considerations
First of all, Carla needs to get her financial situation straightened out. If her ex is supposed to give her 26 accounts, she needs to get that enforced—soon, before the accounts are empty. I hope her attorneys put a time limit on when these accounts are supposed to be turned over, and specified exactly how much money she is supposed to receive. If not, she is in trouble.
Carla cannot allow her ex-husband to pay her bills. By letting him do this, she is allowing him to control her. He is deducting the money from her alimony? He is probably exaggerating the amount of the bills just to pay her less. Plus, he may decide to stop paying the bills, and she would never know it—until the cable service or electric is turned off. Carla must demand that she receive the full alimony, then get her bills in her own name.
Carla did not mention a house and mortgage. If the sociopath’s name is on the house or mortgage, that is a disaster waiting to happen. He may stop paying the mortgage and allow the house to slip into foreclosure. He wouldn’t care, but Carla would have no place to live.
The children
Carla complained that her ex won’t discuss the children with her and won’t offer any assistance as a father. He doesn’t call them during the week and only wants to play with them on his weekends. I’d recommend that Carla use this to her advantage.
Here is the bottom line: Sociopaths are terrible parents. At best, they view children as prized possession. At worst, they actively try to corrupt the children. Therefore, the less interaction a sociopath has with his or her children, the better.
Carla should actually be grateful that her ex is staying out of their children’s lives as much as he is. She should use her time with the children to shower them with love, nurture them and provide them with healthy guidance. None of that will happen when the boys are with their father. The kids will eventually sense that there is no real bond with the father. As time goes on, they may also witness him moving from girlfriend to girlfriend, and eventually start rolling their eyes at yet another one.
Carla needs to be their rock of stability. She also needs to stop badmouthing the father—even if he deserves it. This is important for two reasons. First is the emotional health of the children—they should not feel in the middle of her issues with the ex. Second, she does not want to give her ex the ammunition to come after her with a parental alienation lawsuit, in which she could lose custody of the boys.
Her best plan of action is the stay neutral about the father. One mother’s standard response whenever her children brought home news of the ex was a noncommittal, “That’s nice.”
Kids are smart. Sooner or later, they will realize that the sociopath cares only about himself.
Dealing with the ex
Carla asks, “Why is he so relentless? Why not leave me alone?”
Divorcing a sociopath is not like divorcing a relatively healthy person that you’ve just grown away from. In a normal divorce, mommy and daddy don’t want to be together anymore, but they can cooperate for the sake of the kids. This is not going to happen with a sociopath.
Sociopaths only want three things: Power, control and sex. Carla and the surgeon have divorced, but that doesn’t mean he has given up his desire for power and control.
Carla says her ex-husband is openly abusing her. She must eliminate his opportunities to do this and go No Contact with this man as much as possible. I don’t know if she is allowing him into her home, but she shouldn’t. The child exchange should be arranged to minimize interaction. Any communications regarding the children should be conducted via e-mail. Phone conversations give him opportunities to abuse her.
The key is for Carla to be strictly business. She must recognize that the sociopath will not play nice. He will do everything possible to avoid paying her. He will continue to manipulate her through the children. She must learn not to react when he baits her. She must learn to be calm and collected, yet make him toe the line on his court-ordered obligations.
Emotional recovery
All of this is pretty raw for Carla right now—the divorce was only three months ago. She is outraged. She is frustrated. Carla misses the status, money, vacations and cozy lifestyle of a surgeon’s wife. She is justifiably angry that he cheated and hid money, and probably still reeling from being devalued and discarded.
Realizing that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath has probably rocked Carla to the core. Nothing was real. Everything was a lie. And plenty of people in the community still believe the lie. This is a massive shock, and it takes time to come to terms with the magnitude of the deception.
Recovery is a process, and there is a lot of information here on the Lovefraud blog that may help Carla:
- She must realize that the ex is a sociopath, and this is the way he lives his life. Nothing she did or didn’t do would make any difference.
- She must realize that she was targeted, probably because of her good qualities.
- She must allow herself to feel her anger, disappointment, grief and even hatred—and then let it all go.
This will take time, and will probably come in waves—a wave of emotion, followed by a wave of calm. Eventually the emotional periods will be shorter, the calm periods will be longer.
Carla is in for many years of aggravation with this man. She needs to get to a point of equanimity, where his antics no longer affect her. When she gets there, no matter what the guy does, Carla wins.
Jillsmith,
I would URGE you to get the book that is available on Love Fraud by Dr Leedom “Just Like His Father”.
I will be completely honest and tell you that I have not read this book. HOWEVER I will also say that I wish I had such a book when my son was a baby.
My son is a teenager (16) and I can tell you from experience that when puberty hits and you can SEE that something is very “wrong” , (EVEN if you didn’t see early signs) it is VERY hard if NOT impossible to turn that around. I don’t have good insurance for my son and it has been impossible to even get a REAL diagnosis if he has Bipolar or something more terminal. All I’m saying to you is listen to YOUR MOTHERLY INSTINCT.
If you think something is “not quite right” than do everything within your power to get as much information as POSSIBLE as what you might do (or NOT DO) at his tender age. I am sure that you are raising your son with love and nurturing (just as I did) However if that book might offer you EVEN ONE thing that you don’t know it would be worth it.
Good Luck to you and your son.
Ditto on that about reading Dr. Leedom book if one has children with an ex s/p.
PS: Dr. Leedom book has also been talk about on a blog who cater to those who favor their disorder like SociopathWorld
“assuming you do have a sociopathic child and would rather not, what would you be willing to try to get your child to act normal? would you be willing to do as this author suggests and encourage fear within your child?
[Do not work too hard to discourage him from being fearful. Especially avoid placing him in situations where he has to face and conquer his fears on his own. For example, some people like to teach kids to swim by throwing them in deep water where they will either “sink or swim.” A bold, athletic child would likely learn to conquer is fear of deep water and swim if placed in this situation. He would also receive training in being tough and ignoring his fears. This is not a good lesson for the at risk child.]
“the author goes on to describe how her sociopathic child developed a fear of the dark and how that was used to curb his behavior:”
http://www.sociopathworld.com/2008/12/sociopathic-children.html
(Warning the site is in my opinion a waste of time and give only twisted logic and misinformation on the disorder)
So yes, please if you have children reading Dr. Leedom book might be very helpful.
Jillsmith,
Oh, one more thought that I had…..
My son had a tramatic event in his life a few months short of 5 years old. And although I realized he was an “at risk” child, when raising him, I thought that if I was commited to being the best parent that I could possibly be, even in the absence of him not having a father….If I was loving enough and nurturing enough, and consistent enough, and focused enough on raising my kids as my number ONE priority, that things would be ok.
What I didn’t KNOW, (and I have found out by research more recently) is that often when raising at risk kids, many of the things you might do as a parent might have the opposite “effect” on an at risk child, things that might work just fine with an average child.
This is especially true (“the opposite effect”) when concerning disipline. My son had a hard time with both the positive award for good behavior & discipline (taking away privledges, such as video games, computer, grounding ect) as he got a little older. (middle school is when I noted this) The positive award thing, I believe was his inability to focus (for any time period) on good behavior = good consequences. And any kind of negative consequence for bad behavior just made him ANGRY. He didn’t again seem to equal (IN HIS HEAD) the negative consequence to the negative behavior. Or the positive consequences to the positive behavior.
Even when this was outside of the home, such as in school. If a teacher took away class privledges for a misbehaving class, my son would always see this as TOTALY unfair. If a teacher would give special privledges for good behavior to the class he would see it more as entitelment. Same as at home.
All kids are different. But intuition is something you should NEVER ignore. I wish that I had known earlier some of the things I know now. I think Dr Leedoms book focuses alot on some of these issues, and different things you might face with your son at different ages. It might prove to be a great tool for you because he is so young.
JillSmith and Katya,
If your children are fearless and aloof, you must read Dr. Leedom’s book, Just Like His Father? It gives specific parenting techniques to help you overcome a child’s genetic predisposition towards this disorder.
http://www.lovefraud.com/Store.html
The techniques that Dr. Leedom recommends may be counterintuitive, so it’s important to read the book.
Also wanted to note that there are links and resources on the web that can help with understanding and explaining some type of “bad behavioral” when raising our children. I google this topic and received 3,380,000 hits on the subject. But I believe Dr. Leedom helps with dealing with children that display strong oppositional defiant disorder (ODD).
[Behavioral disorders in children
All young children can be naughty, defiant and impulsive from time to time, which is perfectly normal. However, some children have extremely difficult and challenging behaviours that are outside the norm for their age.]
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/BHCV2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Behavioural_disorders_in_children?OpenDocument
As Oxy can tell us seeing our children go down the wrong path in life can leave a parent feeling both self blame and shame. Thank God we are learning more concerning this problem and how to best deal with it in a loving compassionate empathic way as a parent(s). In short there is good news.
Thank you, Donna.
I already have the book and am reading it.
MATT…..
I reread back on a couple things you had said to me before…I dont think I was clear…..I do NOT have to speak to the S regarding support as the Child Services Department is the middle man already…has been for the last 3 yrs….the problem is with him being in another state currently..it all goes thru Interstate which takes awhile to catch up on things or stay on top of things…which is why he is able to get away with receiving unemployment and not having it garnished yet….from what i understand he will yet again moving back to my state..CA…next week….
he has not responded to any emails regarding his son…(Im documenting as much as I can) and is blatantly refusing to acknowlwdge the court order…while I have asked him to send ANYTHING as it would help..he doesnt respond….doesnt call his son…once in a month….but has his mother call…(which I am now ignoring)can I legally tell him …he can only speak to his son when he starts supporting him…(again nothing in place regarding custody as I am waiting for him to return to CA….(also he will be busy going through a divorce..as his wife is going to refile the papers within the next week or so..
also I read another post..wanted to say Congrats on meeting someone, as well….when we can find something good after the horrific experience of the S….trust and have faith!!
Endthepain,
I got the book now. I will e-mail Donna. The book is HUGE and seems very difficult to read, but I will give it the best I can. Please, write to Donna too to get my e-mail and put End The Pain in the subject line, so I know it’s from you and don’t delete it.
I am so sad today and so angry at myself for letting myself be played to such a horrible extant. The love story I thought I had was totally manipulated, including the kid I now have and love so much. People say they get pregnant by accident. This was NO accident, and I now have full recollection of it. I was trying to break it off with him and he – well, he thought of ways for me not to 🙁
Just feeling terribly stupid now
I have started to read the book Divorce Poison and this is the exact book I need at this time. My oldest son is acting differently and I feel has been pulling away from me. He has alienated his dad’s side of the family (ex S family), due to his dad not having much of a relationship with them. They may be waking up and that is why ex S is pulling away.
I have only read 50 pages of the book, so I have much to go, but I just had a revelation regarding getting my son “back”. My ex S had me alienate my family and I had a very strained relationship with them and had a closer relationship with his side of the family because they bought into his baloney. My family did not hold him in high regard at all–they saw right through him.
I am thinking, what would have helped me with my family when I had alienated them? I have been in a similar position as my son, with the same person. This is going to make me think about my experience. I need to dig deep to make sense of the manipulation.
I love my son very much, but when I see him acting just like his S father, at times it makes it very difficult. One of my ex S family members told me that my son acts just like his dad at that age. That terrified me to no end.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what would have helped to not alienate the people who love you and perhaps how to counteract what the manipulator is doing?
-Ginger