Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail from a reader who we’ll call Carla:
Can you help me with co-parenting with a sociopath? Divorced three months ago, after a two-year fight for my rights. He is not complying as you know.
I am going crazy with the way he only shows his wonderful, smooth qualities to the children. I have three boys. I can’t stand sending them on weekends to a man who never calls them for two weeks and then lavishes them with charm and gifts. It makes me sick that I am struggling because he has not released even one of 26 accounts to me as decreed in the divorce settlement. He pays my bills and deducts them from the alimony. He follows the agreement under his own conditions and it confuses the attorneys. He won’t discuss the children with me or offer any assistance to them as a father. He is 100 percent focused on his new victim, his girlfriend, a new young, widow. Spending all the money he hid on her. But the kids have “buddy” to whisk them from one expensive activity to another while I am struggling to pay the bills.
I have greater anxiety now than when we were married. He openly emotionally abuses me. Before it was more covert and I got immune to the invalidation and blame. NOW I am discarded since I chose not to play by his rules of cheating, drugs, gambling, lying, withholding sex. He isn’t nice to me at all. Cruel. It was easier being married. He did all these things and he kept me blinded by being secretive and giving me a high-income surgeon’s wife lifestyle. I know the secrets now along with my attorney but he looks perfect in the community.
I miss the financial security and vacations. Now someone else shares those things with him and all I did was give him three beautiful children to brag about and add to his narcissism.
I say terrible things about him to the two older children, ages 6 and 13. I tell them how he is not following the agreement, lying and spending money on drugs and women.
Is so frustrating. I see what is real but no one else does. I am afraid my children are going to prefer him (and his girlfriend) because he is so charming and generous and I know he is pathological and I can’t give them the expensive gifts and ultra stimulating activities.
How do you deal with the frustration that you are the only person who knows someone is a sociopath? I had to live 15 years with him to figure it out and go through four therapists until the last one nailed him as anti-social/schizoid personality disordered. Then I validated her “diagnosis” with Lovefraud. He has all the signs with a very high IQ and status of a medical professional to hide behind. Will anyone else ever figure it out? I don’t believe that what comes around goes around when it comes to a sociopath as intellectually clever as my ex-husband. I do have a few very perspective people who picked up on it. I don’t think my kids will ever see it and I think he will destroy me even post-divorce. Why is he so relentless? He has his freedom and his money. Why not leave me alone? Is it because I get one-third of his income in alimony?
After the divorce
Probably the most shocking thing about divorcing a sociopath is that even when it’s over, it’s not over. The attorneys have argued, the court has ruled, this is how it’s going to be—and it’s not. The sociopath doesn’t comply, twists things the way he or she wants them, uses children against the other parent, and no one seems to care.
This leaves the non-sociopathic partner—like Carla—angry with the sociopath, frustrated that he’s getting away with his lies and manipulation, and upset that he won’t do what he’s supposed to do, baffled that no one else sees the truth—all while still mourning the life she thought she had. Carla wants her ex to pay her what he’s supposed to and be a dad to their children. He’s not doing either, so she wants other people to know that behind his charming, successful veneer, he’s vile.
It’s a toxic brew of emotions. But the emotions will never affect the sociopath. They will only affect Carla, and possibly her children.
It seems to me that Carla needs to be able to separate what’s going on into four categories: financial considerations, the children, dealing with the ex and her emotional recovery.
Financial considerations
First of all, Carla needs to get her financial situation straightened out. If her ex is supposed to give her 26 accounts, she needs to get that enforced—soon, before the accounts are empty. I hope her attorneys put a time limit on when these accounts are supposed to be turned over, and specified exactly how much money she is supposed to receive. If not, she is in trouble.
Carla cannot allow her ex-husband to pay her bills. By letting him do this, she is allowing him to control her. He is deducting the money from her alimony? He is probably exaggerating the amount of the bills just to pay her less. Plus, he may decide to stop paying the bills, and she would never know it—until the cable service or electric is turned off. Carla must demand that she receive the full alimony, then get her bills in her own name.
Carla did not mention a house and mortgage. If the sociopath’s name is on the house or mortgage, that is a disaster waiting to happen. He may stop paying the mortgage and allow the house to slip into foreclosure. He wouldn’t care, but Carla would have no place to live.
The children
Carla complained that her ex won’t discuss the children with her and won’t offer any assistance as a father. He doesn’t call them during the week and only wants to play with them on his weekends. I’d recommend that Carla use this to her advantage.
Here is the bottom line: Sociopaths are terrible parents. At best, they view children as prized possession. At worst, they actively try to corrupt the children. Therefore, the less interaction a sociopath has with his or her children, the better.
Carla should actually be grateful that her ex is staying out of their children’s lives as much as he is. She should use her time with the children to shower them with love, nurture them and provide them with healthy guidance. None of that will happen when the boys are with their father. The kids will eventually sense that there is no real bond with the father. As time goes on, they may also witness him moving from girlfriend to girlfriend, and eventually start rolling their eyes at yet another one.
Carla needs to be their rock of stability. She also needs to stop badmouthing the father—even if he deserves it. This is important for two reasons. First is the emotional health of the children—they should not feel in the middle of her issues with the ex. Second, she does not want to give her ex the ammunition to come after her with a parental alienation lawsuit, in which she could lose custody of the boys.
Her best plan of action is the stay neutral about the father. One mother’s standard response whenever her children brought home news of the ex was a noncommittal, “That’s nice.”
Kids are smart. Sooner or later, they will realize that the sociopath cares only about himself.
Dealing with the ex
Carla asks, “Why is he so relentless? Why not leave me alone?”
Divorcing a sociopath is not like divorcing a relatively healthy person that you’ve just grown away from. In a normal divorce, mommy and daddy don’t want to be together anymore, but they can cooperate for the sake of the kids. This is not going to happen with a sociopath.
Sociopaths only want three things: Power, control and sex. Carla and the surgeon have divorced, but that doesn’t mean he has given up his desire for power and control.
Carla says her ex-husband is openly abusing her. She must eliminate his opportunities to do this and go No Contact with this man as much as possible. I don’t know if she is allowing him into her home, but she shouldn’t. The child exchange should be arranged to minimize interaction. Any communications regarding the children should be conducted via e-mail. Phone conversations give him opportunities to abuse her.
The key is for Carla to be strictly business. She must recognize that the sociopath will not play nice. He will do everything possible to avoid paying her. He will continue to manipulate her through the children. She must learn not to react when he baits her. She must learn to be calm and collected, yet make him toe the line on his court-ordered obligations.
Emotional recovery
All of this is pretty raw for Carla right now—the divorce was only three months ago. She is outraged. She is frustrated. Carla misses the status, money, vacations and cozy lifestyle of a surgeon’s wife. She is justifiably angry that he cheated and hid money, and probably still reeling from being devalued and discarded.
Realizing that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath has probably rocked Carla to the core. Nothing was real. Everything was a lie. And plenty of people in the community still believe the lie. This is a massive shock, and it takes time to come to terms with the magnitude of the deception.
Recovery is a process, and there is a lot of information here on the Lovefraud blog that may help Carla:
- She must realize that the ex is a sociopath, and this is the way he lives his life. Nothing she did or didn’t do would make any difference.
- She must realize that she was targeted, probably because of her good qualities.
- She must allow herself to feel her anger, disappointment, grief and even hatred—and then let it all go.
This will take time, and will probably come in waves—a wave of emotion, followed by a wave of calm. Eventually the emotional periods will be shorter, the calm periods will be longer.
Carla is in for many years of aggravation with this man. She needs to get to a point of equanimity, where his antics no longer affect her. When she gets there, no matter what the guy does, Carla wins.
“you are only relevant in the sense that, to keep up his public persona, he has to BE SEEN TO TREAT YOU DECENTLY because you are the mother of his children. He needs to keep up the illusion of his persona – this is YOUR strength also. You can use this in your favour once you are stronger. But you won’t be able to work on this until you BECOME STRONGER.”
How do you use this in your power as I feel my inner stregnth its just this is a monster who I have never thought like before…I am in the midst of MAJOR slandering..and while I know the lies its soooooooo hard not to want to scream to anyone and everyone that he ios lying..and these are people who hated him for what he did to me and our sson…but since I kicked him to the curb and are satnding up for myself…his hatred has come out beyond belief….
Yes, Kathy, thank you. Your message did answer my two questions and will help me make decisions about what I can do next.
Elizabeth, the words, “bizarre” and “twilight zone” were not part of the issue. Your phrases “Who Cares?” and “The point is, so what?” and one more on the next post (can’t find it now) didn’t hurt my feelings. Rather your attitude revealed that I was being misunderstood and judged as incompetent and old tapes of “How did that happen? What did I say to cause that reaction” took over my tired nerves.
Please, please, please do not start walking on eggshells with me by “choosing” your words more carefully. It isn’t necessary as far as I’m concerned.
endthepain – I can so relate to you. It is sometimes so maddening that you just want to cause so much pain on the SP.
My ex wanted my son to be on a certain traveling baseball team. I agreed because I felt it would be the best place for my son to grow as a ball player. For 2 years, I went to the games and sat by myself because all these parents and kids thought my ex was soooooo wonderful. He has the charm, the money, the big house with a pool for team parties…it goes on an on. I was just the lowly ex wife that came to support her son.
BUT…this year, those parents are starting to see him for who he is and they are coming to me with complaints and it’s so refreshing. I can finally open up about him and share my pain with them and they finally are taking my side. Granted, it’s now turning him into an even bigger monster because now he’s trying to find a way to convince my son that this team is no good for him now.
All I know is to continue to take the high road and the SP will be exposed eventually. Keep close to your true friends…the ones that know the truth. Surround yourself with them. Read these blogs every time that you start to lose it. They help me….help me know that I’m not alone. I wish there was a support group around here.
It is so funny that my husband called today asking if he could see our 3 yr.old on Sunday (Father’s day). I was polite and said we have plans but he can get her on Saturday. I didn’t acknowledge what the day really was. I am learning to play his game.
How dare he ask to see her on Father’s day when he isn’t a father. He doesn’t care about her emotional or physical well-being; he doesn’t call her; etc., etc. He picks her up on his “day” and that is the last we hear from him.
But I am grateful for that now. I don’t call him about anything because he is just not in the right frame of mind. He is dealing with his mistress, their kid and her three kids. I am sure she will have plans for him for father’s day. He did leave his wife and daughter for her. Ah, that is something to celebrate!!!
endthepain, it is unconceivably to those who don’t KNOW how they can get worse after being kicked to the curb. We can’t understand but we sure feel the consequences of their anger and vengeance.
I truly hope you can get some sustance from Samantha’s story that it took 2 years for others to “see” but they did see.
Nic, I feel so proud of you that you declined his Father’s Day request and didn’t even acknowledge that you knew what day it was. Good for you!
All of my adult children live within 5 miles from their father and I suppose they will at least give him a card. I can’t help but wonder how long it will take them to realize he doesn’t know how to love back. I fear that is one of the reasons they cling to him — HOPING (as I did) to get some approval and demonstration of affection. I’m convinced he views them (as he did me) as his property.
I try really hard not to feel sorry for them in their vain attempts but am proud of them for trying to have a relationship with him. I just didn’t expect they would choose HIS side! I KNOW I was a good mother. (I think they know it, too.)
Dear Lily,
Sweetie, I KNOW you were a good, compassionate and caring mother, but you could have been the “virgin Mary” and it would not have made any difference in your X’s treatment of you or of his lies about you.
My Son C’s X wife distanced him from me, and he knew I was a good mother to him and that I loved him, but he felt caught in a vortex I am sure. I know that you also hid what your husband did to you behind closed doors too, and so your kids never saw the same side of him that you did.
My egg donor hides behind a mask of pious and sincere Christianity in public, but behind the closed doors of the family she is entirely a different person. I hid things from others too, and even HID THEM FROM MYSELF, but I am no longer play9ig that “game”—and that is teh game they must have us play so that the others don’t “catch on.”
The Ps pick and choose WHO to victimize and who to DUPE, and how to keep the dupes from finding out the truth….that is how they live. It hurts when those we love are duped and believe the lies, but the more we fight against this, the more they are convinced that WE are the crazy ones. But I am here to testify, sister, that you are NOT the crazy one!!!!!
You are a survivor and a victor—-and everything that has happened to you has not sunk your raft!!!! (((hugs)))
samantha..Its so funny as my ax S…doesnt have anything ..everythinghe did have was based on someone else paying foit for him…he uses…he left his wife for me and I got wise and kicked him out…he went back and she took him back…goweer she is wise now and he will have nothing…he is doing his damnest to slander me…horribly..altho he doesnt pay support and hasbt seen his son…hasny called promised he would…and never comes thru…all he is concerned about now is slandering me…keeping his soon to be ex wife and I at odds…by lies..altho its not working….and as far as faters day…he abandned my son for 21/2 yrs…dragged me thru court as he didnt want to pay support…..wanted him desperately to have a relationship with his son..(who is only 3) and ahgain doesnt care…so if he thinks we will be acknowlwdging fathers day for him…..HELL NO!!! I did for 2 yrs..not now…phone will be off…my son and I will spend a fun day together…no card…no bothin!!! HELL NO!!!
A New lily…its amazing how vile they get when rejected and then tawist like they are the one’s doing the rejecting…it saddens me..the cold heartless soul…I actually cried a bit…today…wishing for that illusion again for a moment…that moment passed…when I reread a text he sent stating….”give it a rest…everyone I know that knows you wants nothing to do with you!” HELLLLLOOOOOO….and…what? neener neener!!
or better yet…you have 2 kids with 2 fathers (one being him mind you) great job what kind of an example are you setting??
again…helllllloooo..you are 47 yrs old…no job…no home…alcoholic…lying….and I am working supoorting my family with a daughter in college and I pay my bills!!! oooh…..I get so angry..and then I realize any tears are wasted and he is not worth my dehydration!!!! LOL
but still the slander hurts as ge makes things up and I want the truth to be told…but I know..patience it will come…
again sorry for the typos I get so mad..I actually have a degree…lol
also its funny…sincw when i cut him off and any communication is thru writing and only petaining to my son and telling him i want nothing to do with himand he disguts me..he just got meaner and more people he slanders me to
Oxy….how do you go about keeping your head held high ..being a good mother..and not reacting…but still fighting back..but in a way that doesnt make u look crazy???