By Ox Drover
One of the first things I learned in nursing school was to correctly diagnose the problem before trying to fix it. I wish I had applied this lesson to my own personal life as well as I applied it to my professional life.
We were taught that when there was a perceived need, for example, when the patient was feeling short of breath, to assess why the patient might be feeling short of breath. Was the airway obstructed? If the airway was clear, then what was another likely cause of the problem? Sometimes a patient who is very anxious will feel very short of breath when they are actually getting plenty of oxygen, (as measured by a “pulse ox—”a little gismo that you clip on the patient’s finger and it tells you how much oxygen is in the patient’s blood). Or they will say “I can’t breathe!” when they really mean, “My nose is stopped up.” (If they are talking, they are breathing!)
So I was trained to look at and evaluate the situation, and only then to start to evaluate a plan. Once I had a plan, I was trained to carry that plan out, and to reassess if the plan was helping or not. Just good common sense.
Sometimes victims feel a perceived need; they feel that something is wrong with them. They are “hurting” and unhappy, but they aren’t sure what the problem is, or what is causing the pain and unhappiness. I have been in that same situation; I was hurting from my relationship with the disordered personalities around me. I had a need for love, I had a need for caring from those whom I cared about, but my need was not being met, therefore I felt “short of breath” but didn’t know what was causing my feeling of “suffocating.”
In my pain, in my lack of “oxygen,” I tried everything I could think of, almost at random, and nothing seemed to make me feel any better. I kept suffocating and like a person drowning, I flailed my arms at anything that floated by that might give me support.
I begged my abusers to help me, told them how I was suffering and suffocating, but though they told me they loved me, and I wanted to believe they loved me, their attempts to explain my pain as my own fault didn’t help me. I tried the things they suggested, but nothing worked. No matter how I tried to please them, I always failed.
The punishments they inflicted on me for my failures didn’t make me feel any better either, and I continued to spiral downward until I was critically ill. Still they didn’t seem to perceive how I suffered, or lend me any support.
One day, when I was critically ill, totally beaten down, with barely an emotional “pulse” and in more pain than I had ever imagined was possible, I realized I had not been using “common sense” to stop my downward spiral. I realized the only way I could stop the pain, stop the progression of my life’s downward spiral, was to use the good sense to diagnose the real problem before I started to fix it.
If a patient had come to me and said, “My foot hurts,” I would have looked at the foot and if I saw a thorn, I would not have said “well, let’s give you a pain killer to help your pain.” I would have removed the thorn, the obvious cause of the problem, before doing anything else. If the problem had not been so obvious, if perhaps the foot was tender, red and swollen, I might have taken a blood test to see if there was an infection. I would have asked if the patient had a thorn in there a few days ago, or if they had fallen, or dropped something on it. I would have worked my way down a list of questions that would have helped me get to the real cause of the problem. I would not have just thrown medication at them without knowing what the real problem was.
Why did I try to fix my own pain without finding out what the root cause was? How did I think the “shot gun” approach of just “shooting off in some direction” was going to help me to feel better, to get my life back on track?
Once I backed off and looked at specifics, looked at what the pain was, and what was causing the pain, and realized that as long as I did not take care of the root cause, did not remove the “thorn” from my foot, all the antibiotics in the world would not cure the problem, all the pain killers in the world would not stop the pain. The problem would continue to get worse if I did not take care of the cause of the problem and remove from my life the things (and people) who were inflicting the pain upon me, the infection that was killing me by inches.
Sometimes, the “cure” for our pain involves very extensive “surgery” to remove toxic and malignant “tumors” from ourselves, it might even involve “amputating” someone who is so dear to us we can’t imagine going through life without that person. I had to “amputate” my psychopathic son, and my enabling mother, both of which were traumatic operations for me, and for a while made me feel as if I had no legs, and couldn’t walk ever again. I have found though, like the Bible says, “If thy hand offend then, cut it off” is pretty radical but good advice, and sometimes cutting off a member of our emotional “bodies” is the only way to survive.
Surgery and medical treatment is sometimes painful, and we may want to delay “treatment” because of that potential pain, but I am here to “testify” that life without the malignant people is much, much better!
morning Erin.
Katie,
according to this article it is legal for lawyers to blackmail or extort. So you can hire a lawyer or get a law degree to do this for you! Right Matt?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/weekinreview/04schwartz.html?_r=1
Article is called “The Art of Blackmail”
Hi lovefraud:
So, Ive been feeling sorta down so far this week as it is coming up in 4 months NC with ‘princess’. So many thoughts have gone through my mind and some guilt has begun to cross my path. I know I needed to accept the ‘root cause’ of my pain, and attributed it to becoming aware of his shit.
This guilt of mine surrounds the idea I have of ‘giving up’ on ‘us’ and going NC cold turkey. I vascillate between thinking ‘who deals with all the bullshit?” and “damn, I should have at least told him goodbye”.
I am posting some texts he sent me in Aug of 09 after we began talking again after our initial breakup…
“I want you to want me and miss me and really put yourself out there and act like your in love with me…I want to matter to you, to be worth the time, the drive…I want to be loved too much and held too tight, wanted, desired and I want it from you.”
Sound like bullshit to you guys or what? This was written in August and we went NC in November…did/does he really want those things from me or was this his skill at using words to trap me again…?
Okay,okay,okay……RBAbe…..
What your feeling is part of the process……the key factor is NOT to give into it!!!!!!
Don’t let yourself become overcome by these feelings…..
This is what he’s telling you.
““I want you to want me and miss me and really put yourself out there and act like your in love with me”I want to matter to you, to be worth the time, the drive”I want to be loved too much and held too tight, wanted, desired and I want it from you.”
I want you to buy into what I’m telling you….and hurry up….because I can’t hold the front up too long you stupid bitch….
I want to know that I have you by the strings of your heart and I can prance you around like the puppeteer I am.
I want the great sex you gave me….cuz I’,m having a hard time finding it elsewhere currently….and I know, one night with me…with surely suck you right back to my bed….since the drive is so looong and all….
I want you to act like you love me, so all my friends will be envious of the hot babe I got to dangle around them…..
I want it from you…because i’ve put so muchwork into sheistering you….that your my first choice….otherwise, i’m just gonna have to run right out and find another and another….You have first dibs on me….only because I think your a sucker…..
YEAH DARLEN……SOunds like bullshit!!!
See….I found the hardest part of the split was the lack of closure…..
but break that down girl……If we had ‘closure’ with this type of personality……WE”D STILL BE TOGETHER…..
Cuz they’d suck us right back in….with the above texts and bullshit words….
THIS IS WHY WE DON”T GET CLOSURE…..
It wasn’t a healthy relationship…..so it doesn’t get a standard departure….
CLOSE the door……
You need not second guess yourself…..
OR….better yet……why don’t ya go back and give it another shot……you’ll quickly remind yourself of WHY you went Cold turkey!!!!
(That’s a joke)!!!
XXOO
EB
Obviously you cant be raped by your adult kids, but you can be raped in other ways.I allowed myself to be emotionally, mentally and financially raped by my spath kids,{now 45 and 44 years old,}for over 26 years. NO MORE!! Love, Gem.
Sorry this is prob. not the point being discussed here, but sometimes revelations just hit you in the solar plexus, and you have to share. Love Gem.
RobsX, RE-READ that shit! All it said is , “I want, I want…
ask yourself why HIS wants are enough for you.
I was the same way…if he wanted me, then I had some control and some power. Not so…You need tosak yourself what YOU want, and then figure out how you can go about getting it. I can promise you this guy has nothing to give YOU, but is thinking about what HE CAN GET FROM YOU…He knows that if he says, “I want you”, he’s in the door…
I only say this cause I’ve been there.
You will find that L
but then again, maybe ai’m taking that out of context. I just re-read your post…was that excerpt baried in the middle of a really honest back and forth dialogue…
If you were asking him, “what do you want?” then this could be okay….
but if it came out of nowhere, his little pied piper shit, well, then…
You will find that we at LF err on the side of, ‘HE SUCKS, GET OUT, NO, HE DOESN’T LOVE YOU”
You are the only one who knows what you really need. There are probably sights out there who would tell you you have a prince. My guess is though, if you had a prince, you never would have found your way here.
Dear R-babe,
LISTEN TO KIM! All he is doing is trying to lay a guilt trip on you cause you aren’t giving HIM what HE wants—BOINK! Babe, right square on topo of the head! Now you get your stuff straight and quit feeling guilty—-OR ELSE!!!! ((((hug)))) if you want an ice pack for your flat head, see if Gem will get you one or Janie! Tonight I am just flatening skulls, not doling out the ice packs! ROTFLMAO ((((hugs))))
Lovefraud friends:
EB:
ok, ok…so that text was from when we first broke up in June and began to talk again in August so he WAS trying hard to get back with me. It is true though that if there WAS closure in the normal sense of the word, there is a great chance that we WOULD be talking again…and Id be sucked right back into it. Not a healthy relationship=abnormal departure—YOURE RIGHT! And I need to remind myself that this was NOT healthy…although I do know it, sometimes I feel all the ‘good’ that he showed was real…but I know it wasnt.
Kim:
I did re-read, and you are correct-it is all about him, not unlike alot of our relationship. His wants are not enough for me which was exactly part of the problem…I too wanted things from him…like honesty, truthfullness and loyalty. He has NOTHING to give me, you are absolutely correct, in fact, I have the house, the money, the car, all the ‘normal’ things ‘normal’ people have so it doesnt surprise me that he would ‘want me’ to ‘want him’ with NO expectations…
Feedback I would love…
Ok, R-babe, you are off the hook, I’ve stopped swinging, you are talking sense now! Of course he would want YOU, he had NOTHING ELSE, like honesty, truthfulness, loyalty, nnone of the things a normal good person has—-and he is reaping the “benefits” of having nothing to give!~