There can be different perspectives of the sociopath (and other seriously exploitive personalities). These perspectives can offer different experiences of these disturbed individuals. At the same time each perspective offers, I suggest by definition, both a somewhat advantageous and yet limited view of the sociopath.
Living with a sociopath, or finding oneself involved deeply in a “committed” relationship with a sociopath, will offer an incomparably intimate experience of the horrors that sociopaths can inflict on their partners.
Clearly no one, and that includes the so-called “experts” on sociopathy (clinicians and researchers, for instance) will be able to appreciate the impact of the sociopath, on this level, like the partner who has lived with, or been closely involved with, one.
This close, personal relationship confers upon the partner of the sociopath a certain knowledge of sociopathy and, I stress, a certain intimate experience of the sociopath that no clinician or “expert” can possibly approximate; thus, the sociopath’s partner’s experience is surely a unique one, qualifying him or her, from this particular intimate vantage point, as really the ultimate “expert” on sociopathy.
Now thankfully I’ve never lived with a sociopath, a fact which also happens to limit my experience with sociopathic personalities—specifically, in this case, the experience of having lived with one, and had my life razed by one.
In this sense my, or anyone’s, clinical experience of sociopathic individuals—just like one’s clinical experience of any individual—is limited by the structure of the clinical relationship. It is a relationship with boundaries provided inherently, so that the clinician or researcher (unlike the sociopath’s partner) is for the most part protected emotionally and physically from the sociopath’s most damaging, hurtful, violating behaviors.
On one hand, the protection to which I refer—again, a protection that’s inherent in the clinical setting—clearly limits the clinician’s capacity to fully experience the sociopath; on the other hand, the very structure of the clinical setting may enhance the clinician’s ability to apprehend aspects of sociopaths that may elude the sociopath’s partner, because he or she—the clinician— again unlike the sociopath’s partner, in operating within a structure of safety and protection, can observe and study the sociopath more freely and through a much wider lens.
The clinican is afforded the chance to observe and study sociopaths’ attitudes, their interactions, their styles, their variations, their differences. And, of course, not just one of these individuals, but many.
And so the clinician’s experience with sociopaths, while less rich and informative in some important ways than the partner’s experience of the sociopath, in other ways yields him or her different, additional opportunities to grasp how sociopathically-oriented individuals think and act.
And yet over and over again, I note it when a Lovefraud member points out, “But what do YOU know? Or what does HE know? You (or HE) never lived with a sociopath!”
And my response, whenever I read these comments, is to agree with them wholeheartedly. They are entirely valid comments and speak a truth that all so-called “experts” on sociopathy should heed well: those who have lived with the sociopath possess a certain knowledge and experience of the sociopath that is not only unique (as I’ve suggested), but non-attainable to a clinician in any sort of safe, protective clinical setting.
In this sense, or certainly in many respects, the clinician has much more to learn from the sociopath’s partner than the other way around.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of the male gender pronouns is strictly for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
katydid – off grid – well i am laways off grid. i hurt my hands a few years ago, and had to give up my business….so everything is new and out of my realm to some extent…but i am also newly back to this area…just getting a rep. my work is very public. lots of pr and communications. i almost had a meltdown with IT problems at work the week before last…trying to get the advertising out for the event i am organizing for next weekend.
i think i will know i am not longer hanging with the squirrels when i can move in the world without panicking all the time. and when i feel more peace. and i feel confident to meet new people and make friends again.
Ativan has really helped me with the anxiety/fear.
I take a 1/2 mg when I’m in a panic.
I also take it to sleep… that’s the bad part (for me).
When I first started taking Ativan I took 1 mg and it put me to sleep,
so I started to use it for sleep also.
Now I can’t sleep without it 🙁
oxy – there is good info coming out of studies now, decrying multitasking. i used to be reallly good at it. but not now. not now.
okay, i gotta go to bed.
peace out all and thanks for being here with me tonight. i do feel less freaked out.
xo one step
would someone please send me some atavan!
damn doctors are all ‘enlightened’ in the practice i go too….they subjected me to that dork cognitive guy who was painful as helll, but wouldn’t give me atavan….
but, hey wait, i have a shrink now…maybe she would give me atavan.
shabby – i am sorry that it’s become a dependence. are there other things you can do instead?
Oxy
Your advice is so right on and applicable that many times I copy/paste and print and tape it to my bathroom mirror just so I have a guide.
Thank you for your lists.
Dear Chic,
That is the problem with using anything to help with getting to sleep. I suggest that you start cutting it down a little at a time, like (I know the pills are small and hard to split) but cut in half and in half again, and move down to 3/4 of a pill then 1/2, 1/4 and so on. to wean yourself off of it.
Melatonin is a natural hormone sold OTC that can be taken to help with sleep.
Also use “good sleep hygiene” to help get in the mood and relax for sleep. PTSD screws with your sleep. I am having troubles iwth it right now myself so I can relate.
I am sleeping okay now, but just my natural hours not the preferred ones so I am going to sleep later than I wish, and sleeping later but getting 6-8 hours of sleep most 24 hour periods. One way you can help get to sleep earlier is to get up earlier by 1 hour than you would if you let your self sleep as you would so you will be sleepier that night. So you work it around by 1 hour or 1/2 hour stints until you get it where you want it.
As we get older we sleep less deeply naturally and wake up more often (even though we may not remember it) also I have sleep apnea and I need to get that adjusted too. Don’t give up on your sleep schedule and make sure you get enough. It is bad for us not to get enough sleep. Bad too to WORRY ABOUT it! (my problem) LOL
Oxy, you are right, I have been thinking about “how am I going to get off this stuff?”
I don’t think it’s very good for me, is my doctor nuts?
I’ve been taking it for a looooooooong time.
One of my doctors said to wean myself off cigarettes,
do you think that would work too?
one_step, you hit the nail on the head as far as
there must be something else I can do!!!!
First – Hens – all I want to say is – I’d been following thread last night and posting, been gone all day though – but i laughed out loud earlier when I’d seen
your ‘cat poo trend?’ comment, it was priceless…So – just know how right on and light and witty you are, I love your one-liners, especially!
Just to throw this in, Mercury’s been retrograde for several weeks, not deep into astrology but I was aware of it and good friend who is really into it (when I
told her about my son’s accident and all the crazy stuff and frustrations lately – she said everyone’s been especially challenged or cranky lately – but good
news is as of today (I think, 12th) Mercury is going forward and things should smooth out. I’m ready for that!
Anyway, I enjoyed the recipe-swapping…and just getting off track for awhile – EB had said we could share whatever we want here so just went for it…Also,
I think cooking and being expressive with it is an extension of our soul and a metaphor for life – Food is nourishing if we use good ingredients and God gave
us so many choices, like a painter with a colorful palette – and we all know if we use the best ingredients, the end result turns out to be the most delicious.
If we choose junk food, may taste good at the moment – is quick fix, seductive like a bad relationship, then we get the heartburn and realize we’ve put on
weight, feel funky and depressed!
I still want to try those balsamic vinegar-soaked strawberries and meringues…the good French ones…Man, I got crabby myself tonight, love my son and so glad
he’s alive, but I burned out after full day and being on the road with a 1 1/2year old and then my son trying to explain this evening things on the computer –
my left eye is bugging me now and I felt like my grandson just before he needs a nap! Just noticed as I was about to post, mention of sleep – I realize I just can’t
stay up like I used to and I try to get better, longer sleep now to fully function!
ShabbyChic
Sticking my 2 cents in here but think if you are questioning it, maybe you are ready to take that median step to change to something else? B/c NOT questioning it would have told me you NEEDED it.
I was always afraid of becoming an addict so at most, I took Melatonin. But I think that is also why my recovery took so long. I lived so anxious and paranoid, very Slow to work through the ptsd portion of my abuse. I should have asked for prescription help as long I had a doctor to monitor my meds. So IMHO, anxiety/depression medications seem very appropriate for a lot of us. It’s knowing WHEN to change meds or even stop that’s hard to assess. (kinda asked that on another post, how to know when recovery is midstream versus good to go, esp when the misery was so debilitating that midstream FEELS such an improvement.)
Dear Chic,
I have smoked for years, decades, and I quit so if I can do it, ANYONE CAN!!!!!
My secret? Okay, I bought those lozenges (the gum is okay but the lozenges seem to help more than the gum for me) can’t use the patch as it breaks me out! Anyway, use those as needed, and sugarfree gum in addition. Really did cut the craving.
Then when I was off the cigs pretty well and doing okay I started to cut down on the lozenges, then switched to the Nicotine gum which didn’t give me much of a kick, but bought one big box and said, this is it, so cut that down and still have a piece or two left for “emergencies” b ut really haven’t wanted it.
I also cut down on coffee (was drinking WAYYYY too much) and did that by using half decaf and half regular and then to decaf and really I didn’t even have a single cup of coffee today or a swig of soda, NONE at all. And I used to always have a cup of coffee in my hand! Caffine is a drug chickie! might as well admit it, and nicotine is a drug too. Actually harder to get off that than heroin so the thing is do it one thing at a time. So I am off nicotine, and cigs (first cigs then the nicotine) now the caffine/coffee and if I could just sew my mouth shut I’d be okay! LOL I am struggling with my weight I admit. Haven’t gained any more and actually lost about 10 pounds but ahve to WATCH it close so I don’t go back up. Need to lose some more but right now am not going to stress about it. Just holding steady is better than stressing about it I think.
I’m off the Blood pressure medication and blood pressure is staying completely in the low normal range so that’s good.
I am getting 6-8 hours of sleep a 24 hour period so that’s good.
Mood is fair and energy fair, temperment fair and over all can’t really complain about things too much, so actually I’m just going to try to keep on cutting down on the STRESS. That’s the biggest thing I think that hurts our health (mental and physical) so if we can do some other healthy things for ourselves we are rolling along okay.
Keep in mind, Rome wasn’t built in a day! It also gives me a good feeling about myself to have a step in the right direction.