There can be different perspectives of the sociopath (and other seriously exploitive personalities). These perspectives can offer different experiences of these disturbed individuals. At the same time each perspective offers, I suggest by definition, both a somewhat advantageous and yet limited view of the sociopath.
Living with a sociopath, or finding oneself involved deeply in a “committed” relationship with a sociopath, will offer an incomparably intimate experience of the horrors that sociopaths can inflict on their partners.
Clearly no one, and that includes the so-called “experts” on sociopathy (clinicians and researchers, for instance) will be able to appreciate the impact of the sociopath, on this level, like the partner who has lived with, or been closely involved with, one.
This close, personal relationship confers upon the partner of the sociopath a certain knowledge of sociopathy and, I stress, a certain intimate experience of the sociopath that no clinician or “expert” can possibly approximate; thus, the sociopath’s partner’s experience is surely a unique one, qualifying him or her, from this particular intimate vantage point, as really the ultimate “expert” on sociopathy.
Now thankfully I’ve never lived with a sociopath, a fact which also happens to limit my experience with sociopathic personalities—specifically, in this case, the experience of having lived with one, and had my life razed by one.
In this sense my, or anyone’s, clinical experience of sociopathic individuals—just like one’s clinical experience of any individual—is limited by the structure of the clinical relationship. It is a relationship with boundaries provided inherently, so that the clinician or researcher (unlike the sociopath’s partner) is for the most part protected emotionally and physically from the sociopath’s most damaging, hurtful, violating behaviors.
On one hand, the protection to which I refer—again, a protection that’s inherent in the clinical setting—clearly limits the clinician’s capacity to fully experience the sociopath; on the other hand, the very structure of the clinical setting may enhance the clinician’s ability to apprehend aspects of sociopaths that may elude the sociopath’s partner, because he or she—the clinician— again unlike the sociopath’s partner, in operating within a structure of safety and protection, can observe and study the sociopath more freely and through a much wider lens.
The clinican is afforded the chance to observe and study sociopaths’ attitudes, their interactions, their styles, their variations, their differences. And, of course, not just one of these individuals, but many.
And so the clinician’s experience with sociopaths, while less rich and informative in some important ways than the partner’s experience of the sociopath, in other ways yields him or her different, additional opportunities to grasp how sociopathically-oriented individuals think and act.
And yet over and over again, I note it when a Lovefraud member points out, “But what do YOU know? Or what does HE know? You (or HE) never lived with a sociopath!”
And my response, whenever I read these comments, is to agree with them wholeheartedly. They are entirely valid comments and speak a truth that all so-called “experts” on sociopathy should heed well: those who have lived with the sociopath possess a certain knowledge and experience of the sociopath that is not only unique (as I’ve suggested), but non-attainable to a clinician in any sort of safe, protective clinical setting.
In this sense, or certainly in many respects, the clinician has much more to learn from the sociopath’s partner than the other way around.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of the male gender pronouns is strictly for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
Chic:
Don’t ever allow yourself to be dependent on ANYTHING…..you learned about the ‘anyone’ part…..
So…..now is the time to take care of that too.
I think the above suggestions are great.
Natural stuff…..excercise…..divert the dependence onto a healthy dependenct…..like excercise.
(easier said than done)!!!
Fortunately….I’ve never regularly had an issue sleeping…..
Since i’ve was sick…..I started needing naps…..2-3 hours in the MIDDLE of the day!
They cramp my day…..but my body demands this.
Your gonna need to ‘shake’ it up girlfriend……
Divert your ‘interests’ and dependence and shake it up……walk venice B. often when you feel like climbing the walls…..
THIS may be just the opportunity you NEED to get the hell out….
This is good…..this IS good!!
Thank you very much Katy, Oxy & EB for the advice!!!
I have some other medical problems, so it is imperative
that I quit smoking, and I would like to get off the ativan for sleep.
I know I can do it, just have to put my mind to it.
I have 1 cup of coffee every morning, just the one,
but I’d like to give that up too!!!
Oxy, the nicotine patch gives me a rash, a little square
rash on my arm, or shoulder… scratch!!! Really weird
because I have used them before with no problem.
Thanks for being here and thanks for your encouragement!
xoxoxoxo
Chic….
I think we are left holding the LF bag for tonight…..
I’m heading off……gonna try and get that 6-8 hours tonight….
Sleep tight darlen….
and TAKE CARE OF YOU!!!
OK, I took my ativan 🙁
good night! 😀
Dear Chic,
I’m no the “night shift” agaiin (my natural rhythm) but at least I’m getting some Zs just not when I want them. Oh, well!
The rash is an allergic reactiion probably to the adhesive on the patch. The generic brand of the lozenges is fine. They don’t taste bad or good, mostly just no taste really.
When you get read to quit, set a DATE….and all cigs are gone from that date on. You will get a few urges but not too bad. Go DO something when you get the urge and pop a N lozenge and chew some sugarless gum. Believe me I coughed like a freight train until I quit and within a WEEK my cough is gone! GONE!!!! I think I had developed some allergies or asthma type stuff as any cigarette would make me CHOKE. Son D quit cigs and smokes a pipe a bit, but mostly carries it around in his mouth like a kid with a “passie” but I figure that is better than the cigs.
A friend comes over on the weekends and he smokes (my brand too) but ONCE I took a “hit” off his cigarette and it choked me so badly I never wanted another one! I am a confirmed NON smoker now and he was here this weekend and smoked and didn’t bother me at all, I didn’t even want one.
One cup of coffee a day I don’t thinnk is a big problem but the number of cups I was drinking was WAY overboard. However, I didn’t not intentionally give up the coffee I just got to where it didn’t taste good to me any more and I quit wanting it and by then I was using less caffine so it didn’t jag me to quit it entirely. I figured giving it up couldn’t hurt anything any way.
So just be encouraged and keep checking in with me. I’ll give you all the SKILLET support you need! LOL (((Hugs))))
For the last couple years I have had problems with insomnia. Sleepong pills are not an option for me, as they make me depressed. So does extended Melatonin use and OTC sleep aids containing Benedryl.
It is worse in the summer, this summer was particulary bad, as several here can attest.
I was fortuante to learn some other ways to manage insomnia.
1) No caffiene;
2) In the summer, limit light exposure;
3) Bedroom must be cool and dark;
4) Ble light is particularly simulating. Computer screens are blue-light intense and may be stimulating enough to cause sleep difficilties.
5) No late-day exercising.
Given my current lifestyle, some, such as late-day exercise are difficult to comply.
One blog talked about a “constant” environment approach for those with mood disorders, particularly cyclical ones.
Humans first evolved in an environment that was fairly constant regarding light and temperature, that being tropical Africa.
Thus, all of our systems are based on roughly 12 hours light, 12 hours dark. That needs to be simulated in our homes.
Getting the “cycle” right is difficult, and especially as we age, which just by itself can cause people’s cycles to be “off” or less than desirable at least.
I have a natural tendency to “work the night shift” and have been that way my entire life even since a kid. My own children, one is a vampire and the other goes to sleep at dark and gets up at dawn—from birth. I worked night (graveyard) for years and had no problems adjusting to 11-7a or 7p-7a shifts. Getting up for day shifts even if I got in cync and got enough sleep was still difficult to get up in the mornings and I think I always ran a little on the low side of sleep deprivation.
Factor in PTSD or depression etc. and there are problems with getting not only ENOUGH sleep, but RESTFUL sleep.
So, taking all lthat into consideration, it is sometimes a pain to try to get our sleep wake cycles on track. Especially since I don’t have to get up for a job, makes it more of a struggle for me to push myself to keep a schedule.
bbe: I haven’t tried tapes yet myself (why do we do things for others and then forget or neglect to do same for ourselves…), but when my sister was ill, I found two
nice CD’s, one with just Tibetan gongs and peaceful sounds as well as one of just ocean waves, as we both have always loved the sea and grew up near the beach.
I’ve been over-tired myself lately, anticipating as well as being involved in changes in my life and others and it’s hard to sleep straight through. Sometimes I get up and
go to studio rather than toss and turn and then return to bed, or take bubble bath, with or without book – I don’t think late night reading really affects me. As long
as i steer away from obsessing, which seems like something we’ve all done.
Right now my son is resisting taking Percocet, or any medication for his pain related to surgery – I admire him though having had two c-sections and hysterectomy –
felt I was really grateful for some help to get through a temporary tough time with my body (and emotions.) But I did resist anti-depressants during second marriage,
separation and divorce – I was afraid to become dependent, not sure if that was valid – just what I chose. I did read alot about the brain after my sister was diagnosed
with ALS – and found out from nurses that she’d been taking Valium and other kinds of anti-depressants for almost 20 years since our dad died and a difficult divorce later.
There is some evidence that these types of medication break down things chemically in our bodies with the messages our brains send to our muscles or other aspects
of the body – am not certain how to adequately explain this but it will keep me from ever depending on them for an extended period of time. I feel my sister never
adequately took care of herself emotionally or tried therapy or even massage (I had same doctor who was going to give me prescriptions for anti-depressants respect
my wishes and he then prescribed at least two massage appointments – which I kept and they brought me to much needed tears and release – lately, I’ve thought that
would be a good thing to do now to deal with releasing anger and confused feelings.
Hope so much things look up for you, bbe, just do what feels right for you.
I use to be a “moralist” now I’m a Pragmatist!
Dear Persephone,
Valium is a different drug from antidepressants, it is a tranqualizer which has different effects on the brain. Antidepressants, especially the “newer” ones (theya ren’t all that “new” really) the SSRIs don’t have the dependency attached to them that the valium type drugs (benzos is the street name) for them and they are not used for recreation (or addiction) like the benzos are.
I have been taking antidepressants for about 6 years, though a much lower dose than I took at first (less than half) and I will probably take them the rest of my life, but that is not “addiction” or even dependence, but is like if I were a diabetic I would NEED insulin, or if I had high blood pressure I would NEED medication for that. Taking medication for depression is no different than taking medication for blood pressure or for diabetes.
Unless your son has had problems with addiction, Not taking medication for pain can actually slow his healing. If he has addictive or dependence problems then I would say he is probably wise to not take any narcotics.
Massages do help and some of the other alternative therapies as well. I have a TENS unit which is an electrical stimulation of the skin/muscles/nerves which is sort of like a massage if you crank it up a bit. Helps relax muscle tension as well as is distractive for pain control. Not as good as a massage but can wear it while you sit or work.
Relaxation tapes or thoughts, meditation, yoga, and other ways of taking control of your thoughts and emotions are also very positive things we can do for ourselves.
I used to have some records by a group called Mystic Moods which had this very soothing music with a back ground of surf or rain and it was wonderful. Have you seen that video going around the internet of the “rain” done by the musical group where they use snaps and claps to make rain sounds like a thunder storm? It is AWESOME!!!! Probably 75-100 members of the group.
Well, off to do a bit more work! Break time is over!