There can be different perspectives of the sociopath (and other seriously exploitive personalities). These perspectives can offer different experiences of these disturbed individuals. At the same time each perspective offers, I suggest by definition, both a somewhat advantageous and yet limited view of the sociopath.
Living with a sociopath, or finding oneself involved deeply in a “committed” relationship with a sociopath, will offer an incomparably intimate experience of the horrors that sociopaths can inflict on their partners.
Clearly no one, and that includes the so-called “experts” on sociopathy (clinicians and researchers, for instance) will be able to appreciate the impact of the sociopath, on this level, like the partner who has lived with, or been closely involved with, one.
This close, personal relationship confers upon the partner of the sociopath a certain knowledge of sociopathy and, I stress, a certain intimate experience of the sociopath that no clinician or “expert” can possibly approximate; thus, the sociopath’s partner’s experience is surely a unique one, qualifying him or her, from this particular intimate vantage point, as really the ultimate “expert” on sociopathy.
Now thankfully I’ve never lived with a sociopath, a fact which also happens to limit my experience with sociopathic personalities—specifically, in this case, the experience of having lived with one, and had my life razed by one.
In this sense my, or anyone’s, clinical experience of sociopathic individuals—just like one’s clinical experience of any individual—is limited by the structure of the clinical relationship. It is a relationship with boundaries provided inherently, so that the clinician or researcher (unlike the sociopath’s partner) is for the most part protected emotionally and physically from the sociopath’s most damaging, hurtful, violating behaviors.
On one hand, the protection to which I refer—again, a protection that’s inherent in the clinical setting—clearly limits the clinician’s capacity to fully experience the sociopath; on the other hand, the very structure of the clinical setting may enhance the clinician’s ability to apprehend aspects of sociopaths that may elude the sociopath’s partner, because he or she—the clinician— again unlike the sociopath’s partner, in operating within a structure of safety and protection, can observe and study the sociopath more freely and through a much wider lens.
The clinican is afforded the chance to observe and study sociopaths’ attitudes, their interactions, their styles, their variations, their differences. And, of course, not just one of these individuals, but many.
And so the clinician’s experience with sociopaths, while less rich and informative in some important ways than the partner’s experience of the sociopath, in other ways yields him or her different, additional opportunities to grasp how sociopathically-oriented individuals think and act.
And yet over and over again, I note it when a Lovefraud member points out, “But what do YOU know? Or what does HE know? You (or HE) never lived with a sociopath!”
And my response, whenever I read these comments, is to agree with them wholeheartedly. They are entirely valid comments and speak a truth that all so-called “experts” on sociopathy should heed well: those who have lived with the sociopath possess a certain knowledge and experience of the sociopath that is not only unique (as I’ve suggested), but non-attainable to a clinician in any sort of safe, protective clinical setting.
In this sense, or certainly in many respects, the clinician has much more to learn from the sociopath’s partner than the other way around.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of the male gender pronouns is strictly for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
Am I the “ultimate expert on sociopathy” since I have experienced first hand the devastating effects of these all too familiar entanglements? As a clinician I resonate with the pervasive denial that clouds the judgement of victims. If we can connect with the spirit that seeks freedom, the patient will follow our lead to a safer place. Yes, there are safer places and we’ll get there together!
Dear Ox Drover,
Thank you for taking the time to write. Your support was worth your effort as it hit the mark!
Dear Kalina and Fearless,
I’m glad that you both feel my support. Validation is always wonderful, definitely! And there was a time I needed it so badly and there was so little of it. I realize how valuable it is.
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I am slowly learning to VALIDATE myself! I’m getting there, but at times it is still wonderful to have someone validate us.
When I was hiring the attorney to try to keep my son in prison when he comes up for parole, the guy was kind of snippy at first, but after I sent him the foot locker full of letters from my P son to the Trojan Horse psychopath my son sent to kill me and other members of my family, the attorney VALIDATED ME 100% and it FELT SO GOOD even though I knew I was right, just to have someone else validate that felt like heaven! While I no longer REQUIRE validation from others it DOES FEEL GOOD! Just like I can massage my own aching neck muscles, but it sure does feel good to have someone else do it too!
You are both on your way to regaining strengths you didn’t even realize you had. I know “we will get there” as you said Kalina! TOWANDA for us all! And God bless!
Ox Drover,
A question for you –
If you felt protected against a Sociopath because of the information that you had, but still in the end were effected by one, how do we go about making sure people understand the dangers? How do we educate against these monsters?
and, what about closure? Is there ever closure?
Okay, still trying–just MHO, how do we educate others?
Just like we are doing here, talking to people in a non confrontational way if we are able and they are willing to listen. Teaching our children that there is evil in this world. We can’t “fix the world” all at once, it must be done one-on-one….Donna has provided this wonderful forum for us, but still it takes EACH of us to support someone who comes here to help them to educate and heal themselves. It is a do-it-yourself project for each of us, but the support and the validation we get from others is helpful to us IF WE WANT IT TO BE. If not…..then someone can lead a horse to water but no one can make it drink!
CLOSURE? That’s also a “do-it-yourself” project I think, because they are NOT going to give us closure if they can help it. We have to make our own. Shut the door and say ENOUGH ALREADY!
Whew! (sigh here) I never realized there WAS a way for me to “divorce” my family members, to not take them back into my life, heart, and trust no matter what they did. It was inconceivable that I would ever NOT be a part of them and them be a part of my life. We were BLOOD. But I finally came to realize that no matter how much you love(d) someone that there comes a time when it is YOU or THEM and they are the ones driving the bus that you are trying to save them from!
You can’t fling yourself under the bus to save them when THEY are driving that bus. (that is not original with me, another poster a couple of years ago used this example, but I love it!)
The only closure we get is when we say, I CANNOT SAVE THEM FROM THEMSELVES!
God bless and keep- on trucking! Healing is out there and you are on the right road! (((Hugs))))
Dear Stil trying,
Never put all your faith in one person, speak openly to friends about your suspicians, have many avenues of self satisfaction. In addition, keep a journal of your feelings and exercise spiritual strength by connecting to a higher power. I hope this helps you. About closure, their are degrees of closure. It’s the open wound that hurts the most. If you feel like you are deteriorating emotionally, seek a psychiatrist for a med. evaluation. Depression is the underlying factor in PTSD.
To the above points: Is there any research that shows those who may be more susceptible to these predators?
Regarding education: This would be an interesting unit of study in high school health classes. So many reality tv programs seem to reveal these personalities/toxic relationships (in my untrained, non-professional, solely first hand experience opinion) that it seems this is a serious issue in our culture and are likely to get worse with the attention these unhealthy personalities are paid in our culture.
Anyone out there end up having a good, healthy relationship following spath significant other? How can we be sure it’s real, right, healthy? I am no where near imagining myself thinking about dating, but I would like to know if there is a path to a meaningful relationship.
Extremely good read. This article hit it exactly for me. I was raised by 2 psychopaths. Life of extreme hell, can’t believe I lived through it with my ego structure still in tact. I can only explain it as a miracle that I still have breath in my body.
I am struggling feeling sadness deep down inside that I do not want to fully release because how can I grieve someone who was not real? It is a complicated grief.
My question to other women out there who have been in a relationship or married to a psychopath who is now n/c. How did you go about grieving your x? Did you ever ask yourself how can I grieve a person who was not real? Did you ever ask yourself how can I grieve a non-human entity? How can I grieve a monster? How can I grieve evil?
I’d appreciate your experience with this.
Living with a sociopath, or finding oneself involved deeply in a “committed” relationship with a sociopath, will offer an incomparably intimate experience of the horrors that sociopaths can inflict on their partners.
Clearly no one, and that includes the so-called “experts” on sociopathy (clinicians and researchers, for instance) will be able to appreciate the impact of the sociopath, on this level, like the partner who has lived with, or been closely involved with, one.
Dear Fearless Peace:
From what I have read in the literature, it seems that the “type” they go after are highly empathic, intelligent women, usually women working in the helping profession.
One post I read said that there is “no” type, just by virtue of the fact that you are a single woman, you are potential prey for them.
It’s scary ain’t it?