There can be different perspectives of the sociopath (and other seriously exploitive personalities). These perspectives can offer different experiences of these disturbed individuals. At the same time each perspective offers, I suggest by definition, both a somewhat advantageous and yet limited view of the sociopath.
Living with a sociopath, or finding oneself involved deeply in a “committed” relationship with a sociopath, will offer an incomparably intimate experience of the horrors that sociopaths can inflict on their partners.
Clearly no one, and that includes the so-called “experts” on sociopathy (clinicians and researchers, for instance) will be able to appreciate the impact of the sociopath, on this level, like the partner who has lived with, or been closely involved with, one.
This close, personal relationship confers upon the partner of the sociopath a certain knowledge of sociopathy and, I stress, a certain intimate experience of the sociopath that no clinician or “expert” can possibly approximate; thus, the sociopath’s partner’s experience is surely a unique one, qualifying him or her, from this particular intimate vantage point, as really the ultimate “expert” on sociopathy.
Now thankfully I’ve never lived with a sociopath, a fact which also happens to limit my experience with sociopathic personalities—specifically, in this case, the experience of having lived with one, and had my life razed by one.
In this sense my, or anyone’s, clinical experience of sociopathic individuals—just like one’s clinical experience of any individual—is limited by the structure of the clinical relationship. It is a relationship with boundaries provided inherently, so that the clinician or researcher (unlike the sociopath’s partner) is for the most part protected emotionally and physically from the sociopath’s most damaging, hurtful, violating behaviors.
On one hand, the protection to which I refer—again, a protection that’s inherent in the clinical setting—clearly limits the clinician’s capacity to fully experience the sociopath; on the other hand, the very structure of the clinical setting may enhance the clinician’s ability to apprehend aspects of sociopaths that may elude the sociopath’s partner, because he or she—the clinician— again unlike the sociopath’s partner, in operating within a structure of safety and protection, can observe and study the sociopath more freely and through a much wider lens.
The clinican is afforded the chance to observe and study sociopaths’ attitudes, their interactions, their styles, their variations, their differences. And, of course, not just one of these individuals, but many.
And so the clinician’s experience with sociopaths, while less rich and informative in some important ways than the partner’s experience of the sociopath, in other ways yields him or her different, additional opportunities to grasp how sociopathically-oriented individuals think and act.
And yet over and over again, I note it when a Lovefraud member points out, “But what do YOU know? Or what does HE know? You (or HE) never lived with a sociopath!”
And my response, whenever I read these comments, is to agree with them wholeheartedly. They are entirely valid comments and speak a truth that all so-called “experts” on sociopathy should heed well: those who have lived with the sociopath possess a certain knowledge and experience of the sociopath that is not only unique (as I’ve suggested), but non-attainable to a clinician in any sort of safe, protective clinical setting.
In this sense, or certainly in many respects, the clinician has much more to learn from the sociopath’s partner than the other way around.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of the male gender pronouns is strictly for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the attitudes and behaviors discussed.)
chinagirl,
I’ve experienced the blank shutdown (good expression) – I’ll be talking to him about something (that he doesn’t want to talk to me about), and he won’t say anything, just look at me blankly, a vacant expression on his face – he’s not there. I guess that’s another example of the look. The other look was definitely darker, being able to “see” it in his face, making me uncomfortable. I’ll have to think about this.
Kim….yes! I just realized reading your post that maybe that was why he asked me that question about JC being my savior. I thought that being a Christian he wanted to make sure I was also a Christian but that doesn’t ring true at all because he married me without ever really talking about it and I wasn’t a Christian until 2 years later. Another scoping out of the weaknesses….
We all have something in common: our extreme empathy. My ex even admitted “I have no empathy or compassion for women close to me”. Wow! He said that in therapy! I remember thinking “well, there is nothing to work with then is there” but I NEVER realized how sick that statement from him really was.
He always used the Christianity as an umbrella over his behaviors. He’d have an emotional affair with someone and then say “OH she is a christian, I am a christian” and I always wondered did he think I was THAT supid? Apparently. Smoke and mirrors with his words, smoke and mirrors with finances, smoke and mirrors was /is his life!
I have a question: I think I already know the answer…and it is NO! but…should I approach his current wife (#3) and open up dialgoue at all about what she might be going through? I keep thinking she must be seeing some signs by now (five years they have been married) but she is having their third child and I wonder maybe she is super happy. Maybe he changed. Maybe it was me!! But, I know that I had my own part but he is a sick guy. His first wife and I told her, right before her wedding that we are here for her when she starts having questions….and she has become a bit nicer to me now…she is my lifeline to my D so obviously I don’t want to do anything at all to change that. And I suppose I need to keep reminding myself to KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT! Ok, answered my own question. LOL
chinagirl,
I would keep mum. Establish a relationship with her and down the road, if she needs to “talk”, it’ll happen. I figure that you have enough on your plate, needing to focus on yourself right now, getting stronger and better.
Bluejay….yes you are right. I certainly don’t need to look any crazier to them! And I have a feeling he reads her emails, texts….I have recieved responses back at times when I know it is him writing…I know what is his thinking versus hers….
chinagirl,
You already figured out the answer to your question! I would be businesslike (but with a bit of warmth mixed in) when contacting her via e-mail (since he reads her e-mails, how sad), not letting either one of them know the ins-and-outs of your life. Work on you (as I’d like to do today before I go to work). I suspect that his new wife has seen odd behaviors, is seeing the actual person bit-by-bit (I’m only guessing). Who knows what her decision will be – to stay with him or leave. I also understand that she has young children, so it wouldn’t be an easy undertaking. Too many considerations – legally, financially, etc. for her. Personally, I don’t think that she has it easy, but I’m glad she’s in your daughter’s life, being a positive influence. I just hope that she isn’t destroyed by her husband, on an emotional level, down the road.
I’m not sure where to put this, or if anyone will be interested in it…It’s about the folk-tale of, “Bluebeard” and some other cautionary tales…always something hidden and forbidden that the maiden discovers…
In the end she aquires riches, and a new and noble love. 🙂
Opps forgot to add the link.
http://www.endicott-studio.com/rdrm/forblue.html
“Rosa says:
I think the one thing most people (even professionals) miss, and that only the victims of sociopaths can truly understand are the subleties/nuances of the socio.
These individuals are rarely ranting at somebody, at least not in public where everyone will see.
I believe the most dangerous personalities are very subtle and insidious.
It’s something only those who are intimately involved will understand and relate to.
This subtleness allows the sociopath to abuse in front of everyone, but no one sees anything because they are unable to pick up on the nuances.
It’s clean violence.
Only the victim can understand the underlying sinister intent of what the abuser is saying/doing.
Everyone else thinks the abuser is a great guy/gal, because they are taking him/her at face value.
We all know how helpful and charming socios can appear to be, right?
And if something is a little “off”, empaths will give the benefit of the doubt by “filling in the blanks” with their own emotions.
Watching everyone else embrace your abuser—that’s a lonely & helpless feeling for the victim”
I am with Rosa. There is much focus on the violent and criminal sociopath and too little on the “subtle” or covert ones, the “wolf in sheep’s clothing.”
In some ways, I have trouble understanding why somebody would stay with an obvious physical or financial abuser but do realize the “fixer” or “ever hopeful” traits in many of us allow for long-term, obvious abuse.
It not only bothers me that others would see my x-spath as “charming” but that I did as well. Moreover, now that I am far more healthier and wiser, I often wonder what qualities in me at the time allowed for so much emotional abuse in such a short period of time. Is he like that with others? How long would others put up with such behavior?
The other day I was on a popular gay website and I was messaged by this person who I first though by profile and picture was my x-spath. Yes, the age was off by 5 years but the x-spath is known to be loose with details…
Thankfully, it was not the x-spath. I exchanged several messages with this guy, including one where I pointedly asked him if he had a slightly older gay cousin, as both this guy and my x-spath come from the same city.
The guy said no, and that he does not have much of an extended family at all, which I found further interesting given that neither does the x-spath.
One thing that separates them is that in pictures, this guy actually looks like he is a sorted, nice guy. In every picture of the x-spath I ever saw, there was something disturbing about him, mostly in the eyes. I wonder if others see that disturbing look, or do they miss it too?
Dear friends,
The contempt for Evil is the resolution of the “Good”. No half measures here.
In order to integrate the reality of our experiences, we must stop blocking our responses. We will become more human when we intensify our sensitivity to truth.
Friends,
Good people do not like to feel anger. From childhood we learn to be “Good”. Since “Good” is never “Good” enough, we create a split in our personality’. Part of of is real, the other part of us is angry. Since we do not have permission to be real, we learn to hide our true feelings from ourselves. As a result anger is turned against “Self”.