At a Christmas party on Saturday night, the conversation turned to hot water radiators. My husband, who is mechanically inclined, explained to a woman, who was trying to save money by conserving heat, how to bleed the air out of an old-style hot water heating system.
Eventually, the conversation revealed why the woman was trying to save money. She’d purchased an old farmhouse for her business. She secured a $150,000 construction loan to renovate the house and retained a contractor. The contractor insisted on installing the thermostat for the hot water heating system on a wall directly across from a wood burning stove. (For those of you who are not mechanically inclined, this is a really dumb idea.) The contractor also told the woman that she couldn’t insulate the farmhouse because moisture would create a mold problem. (This is true, but it is a problem that is readily solved, and insulating the house is a really good idea.)
Further conversation revealed that the contractor, who was president of some kind of historical building society, had not completed $70,000 worth of work for which he had been paid. The bank repeatedly came to inspect the job, bought the guy’s stories about why the work wasn’t done, and released the next installment of money. The farmhouse owner, of course, signed off on all the payments.
At one point a bank representative asked the farmhouse owner, “Are you sure about this guy?”
“Oh, he’s fine,” she replied. “He’s the president of the historical building society.”
The contractor hasn’t paid the subcontractors, and they’re demanding their money from the farmhouse owner. She hired a lawyer, who went along with a plan suggested by the contractor’s lawyer, which was useless. So now the woman is trying to save her home and her business. Plus, she’s cold.
“Sounds like you’re dealing with a sociopath,” I said.
I don’t know if this woman has any good options. We suggested that she sue the bank, because the bank released the money. But she approved payments, so that may not work. She can’t afford another lawyer. As has happened to many of us who have dealt with sociopaths, she may be stuck holding the bag.
Fort Dix Five
This woman may suffer terrible financial losses. But others involved with sociopaths lose much more.
A few weeks ago, in The con man, the thug and the jihadists, I wrote about the five young Muslim men who were on trial for plotting a terrorist attack against U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Most of the prosecution’s case was based on conversations secretly recorded by an informant, an illegal immigrant from Egypt, who was paid $240,000 by the FBI.
I predicted that the jury would see that the informant was a con man who manipulated the young men. I predicted that the defendants would walk. I was wrong.
The five young Muslims were convicted of conspiring to kill military personnel. They were acquitted of the more serious charge of attempted murder because they didn’t actually do anything. Still, they all face life in prison.
Yes, they did go to a shooting range in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania, shot at targets and shouted “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great.” They videotaped themselves doing this and brought the tape to a Circuit City store to be converted to DVD. One of them also downloaded violent jihadist videos from the Internet.
But would they have actually have gone any further? Would they have even discussed plans, which were nothing more than vague, wild ideas, if they hadn’t been goaded on by the sociopath, who was being paid to keep them talking?
I know how convincing sociopaths can be, so I don’t think they would have done anything without his encouragement. But I wasn’t on the jury, and the people who were apparently don’t understand sociopaths. So the young Muslims were left holding the bag. They may spend the rest of their lives in prison.
For his efforts, the con man informant, who was twice convicted of bank fraud, was promised legal residency in the United States, courtesy of our Justice Department.
Education is key
The consequences of entanglements with sociopaths are always negative, ranging in scale from unpleasant to deadly.
That’s why Lovefraud’s mission is to educate people about sociopaths. Right now, most people find Lovefraud because they’re already entangled with a sociopath and facing the consequences. We’ll soon announce a new initiative to help people cope with what has happened to them.
But eventually we hope to have programs to educate people about this personality disorder and the red flags of sociopathic behavior. Our goal is to help people escape the terrible consequences by avoiding the predators in the first place.
Stargazer,
Were for me I was checking out the forums and had a stay at home New Year day. So that why I am here.
Interesting but snakes are very cool and really can’t see that as a reason not being compatible with someone. I also respect and love animals even snakes. There was always something about snakes that fascinated me about them. Snakes have been fear but also worship as well in our human history. In fact the snake in the bible is a story everyone knows even if they aren’t Christians or believe in God. Anyway I believe snakes are so cool and remember even as a child playing with garden snakes as a little boy. What got you interested in snakes Star? I mean most ladies tend not to enjoy them but I do remember one woman a friend of mine who did as did her boyfriend. In fact they allow me to see a “feeding” with one of their boa’s. What a sight to see! One thing they taught me was how easy it is for a snake to die if not taken care of appropriately. You have to baby them as it was explain to me.
Stargazer,
Oh also I would love to check out your site on snakes. I always wanted to learn more about them in case I even get one as a pet. Not sure if that’s against the rules here at this site but would like to see the site if that okay with you and LoveFraud. Thanks.
James
There is nothing easyer to keep as a pet than a snake ! no noise , no fur , no dandur , no mess , You don’t even have to touch them , they require no love/attention ! It is the perfect P-pet:)~
Taking care of newborns is a little tricky but one animal per enclosure , water , warmth , food , clean cage , thats it
Most snakes Hide 99 0/0 of the time ! So aborial snakes make the best displays! I have a Jungle Carpet Python captive born , blk & yellow.
There is a warning at the store I worked at , that I made and put up . It’s still there 8yrs later. All Animals can BITE
Peace Happy New Year LOVE JJ
I have real understanding now of why NO CONTACT is so essential. I accidentally bumped into my Ex at the hair dresser. He came toward me and said it was great to see me. I was totally shocked to see him and just left abruptly since I was leaving anyway. Long story short……..I resent him being friendly with me especially since he has a new girl friend. He eamailed me earlier that he wants me to put all the bitterness of the past behind us and “be friends.” I cannot do this. For one reason….I am jealous of the new girl friend…..he left me for her. I did tell him that I could not see him while he was seeing her. That was dumb because he is bad news anyway. Perhaps I want to get him back in my life so that I can have the satisfaction of dumping him for revenge. (This is so high school! I am 59 and he is 63.) And I have not made any new connections emotionally after six months. I am frightened of my obsession with this man. It makes no sense for me to be interested or affected by him. I guess it is the charm and the memoires of good sex. I am lonely and horny and upset that he is seeing a woman that he did not like before she left her husband. If I were to meet him today and not know him…..I would not pick him. Why the obsessing? This is more ego than true love but I seem to be stuck. I am emotionally numb and obsessed. I hate the thought of this border line personality, Jeckyl & Hyde person having space in my head for the beginning of 2009. I am filled with shame over this. How much time is reasonable to get over someone who is clearly not right for me. I feel like I am emotionally sneaky. Even my best friends who talk to me daily do not know about this. It makes no sense. I feel very trapped. It makes me feel desperate to replace him but I can’t seem to feel anytrhing for anyone else. I am on Cymbalta and have read every self help book in print. You should see my stack of relationship books. I cannot seem to get my head and gut together. This is the fight of my life. I need to detox from this man forever. I wish I could run away. HELP!!!!! I am in a very scary private prison. I kinw that I deseve better!
My main goal for 2009 is put all of this behind me. Any idea of how to do this>
Wini-
OMG! thanks for the things to do in 2009 post. Now, that’s what I call a way to start the day-laughing my butt off!
PAL-
I know I am going through the same as you. I had a period where I actually had to force myself to go out of the house (other than work). I still have an occasional bout with that. As hard as it is to accept, I try to tell myself that I will meet someone in God’s time frame, not my time frame. I don’t do the bar scene any more, my exposure to the human race is at church, work, & trips to the store. I even tried the dating sites (E harmony, etc.), when I was at my height of loneliness . A big mistake, BTW! Those places are in business for 1 reason-to make money. I like to think that some where in my life’s path, I will be fortunate to meet someone to share my time with. I guess I get impatient with the “When?’ part.
Right now, I am grateful for all my friends here at LF, to have survived the s., & the start of a new year. This month will mark my 7th year as a cancer survivor, too. So even though I get lonely, we all know there are a lot worse things. Just hang on, & read & blog here.
Peaceatlast,
Welcome to my world…It’s almost like I need an EXORCIST to get that sick F**k outta my head, especially at this time of year…I’m at 5+ months No Contact but his “ghost” managed to haunt me throughout Christmas and on New Year”s eve…Jesus showed me signs(throughout the difficult times) of hope though, and I honestly feel I will make it to the other side of this…Problem is it’s so lonely right now and with a break-up with an S you really don’t get the “closure” you get in a “normal” break-up… I totally can relate to your post and I bet almost everyone on here can too…God Bless…
YES……..Just too bad I can’t ask Nicole Kidman, Halle Berry, Jennifer Ansiston, and Elizabeth Hurley how they coped with the betrayal of sociopathic men in a very public arena. At least my pain is very private.
I want patience and I want it now! There is more dignity in No Contact that letting this jerk press all my buttons with his demented perspective.
I do have hope. But the holidays have been a huge challenge. Thank God they are over. I will focus on work. At least all my efforts are rewarded in work. That is more than I can say for the men in my life.
I am very self sufficient and indpendent however, being a heterosexual woman there is nothing like the right man. God made me this way, the devil tempts me. God is sovereign. Hey God I could use some skin! Being hopeful only gets you so far especiallly when you are used to working for everythihng you want.
Think of it like breaking an addiction and going through withdrawals. Shakes, cold sweats, cravings, etc. You are in the worst withdrawal symptoms right now. If you can ride this out, it WILL get better. Just do whatever it takes to have NC. Not by proxy, not by word of mouth. Just stay away. If you are able to move, move. It’s a blessing that you are here because most people who have not been through this unique trauma do not understand the pain it causes. It is not helpful to talk with others about it I have found. I tried. They tend to generalize or minimize the trauma, and this creates more trauma. You WILL get through this–all of you. You can do this.
I have people coming over in an hour for a nice party today. I am blessed to have some wonderful friends, and especially all of you here, who have helped me more than you can imagine. Stay strong!!!!!
Dear Peaceatlast,
After my husband of 20+ years (who was my friend for 20 yrs prior to marriage) died in uly of 04, I was SO NEEDY and felt so old (I was 57 at the tiime) ugly, fat, wrinkled, and thought I would be “alone” (booo hoooo) for the rest of my life. A guy (recently divorced) from my living history group started coming on to me and within days I had this wonderful great SOULMATE to “rescue” me from my lonliness, and despair. That went on for four months, then BINGO, the abuse started, the lies had been going on all the time, but I didn’t realize it at the time, anyway,, the abuse started.
The crossing boundaries, the lies, the snide remarks, defending myself from his subtle and not so subtle put downs.
Long story short, he had been married to the same woman for 32 yrs and cheated on her with a “harem” of women. He used his marriage to keep the long-term affairs “at arm’s length” and he was desperately trying to find a new “respectable” wife to latch on to to provide hearth and home while he wandered around with his sex addiction and his harem. Sheesh.
He was hateful, vengeful, and even burned down the house of the last GF before me, when he tried to get her to be the “respectable” wife (even though he had cheated with her for 8 yrs before his divorce)
When my ‘FANTASY LAND ROMANCE” came to a grinding, screetching, crashing halt and I finally gut enough to kick his sorry butt to the curb, he too “wanted to remain friends” (READ: still have sex) even after he had moved on, he wanted to pretend he hadn’t lied, cheated, abused, etc. but I would NOT do that.
He lives about 4 hours drive from me, and one night out of the clear blue sky, he shows up at the local auction I go to probably about half the saturday nights, and just as big as you please says “Well, Hi, Lady” and I about DROPPED dead on the spot. He was in MY TERRIATORY–WTF? Of course knowing that he had burned the other GFs house I was paranoid, but mostly just SHOCKED to run into him after almost 2 yrs of NC. (he did call me in the middle of the night on the annivarsery of the last time I saw him to gloat and I had answered the phone in my sleep, when I recognized his voice, I screamed ASSHOLE!!! and Hung up. It so happened that we were at a living history event camped with about 100+ people and I woke the camp up. LOL At the time I was furious and embarassed.
I was frightened when he showed up at the auction (a place HE KNEW he would be likely to run into me) WHY would he drive this distance to go to a junk/houehold stuff auction near ME for goodness sakes?
I didn’t speak to him, just glared at him, but then he had the nerve to sit RIGHT IN FRONT of me though there were other seats available. I glared at the back of his neck when his head was away from me, and if he looked at me, I kept the glare up. My sons say I have a glare that will melt stone (gosh I hope itisn’t the P’s “SATAN’s EYES LOOK!” LOL) Anyway, about half way through the auction he got up and stalked out with a determined stride.
Yes, it is disconcerting to run into them. I understand your feelings of being “jealous” of the other woman, but you know what,? Think about it this way. If you were in a contest and the FIRST PRIZE was a big bucket of fresh stinking bull manure, would you be sorry you “lost?”
Well, SHE WON FIRST PRIZE in that contest. But it does not mean that she got anything you would want!
I heard through the grapevine that my X-P just got married again, and you know what my feelings were? I WAS SORRY FOR THE WOMAN, because she WON FIRST PRIZE and it is not anything that I want in my bed, or in my life. Because they have been going together for about 2 yrs now, and you know what? I KNOW that he talks to her like a dog, that he cheats on her, that he lies to her, that he has no respect for her (or any woman for that matter) and you know, it SUCKS TO BE HER and it will only get worse. His first wife said that a good clout up side the head was not an unusual occurance if she crossed him. DO I THINK HE HAS CHANGED and is making her happy? NOT ON YOUR TIN TYPE, SUGAR! He is a piece of crap, and I am so glad that I didn’t win that “prize.”
Besides, the man is 67 yrs old, drinks like a fish, had by pass surgery when he was 55, drives drunk, eats horrible, etc. and his father was a NASTY SENILE OLD MAN who lived to be nearly 90, and you know what, she can be his “nurse” and I’ll be happy for her to have that job. I’m retired from nursing!
StarGazer…………You are a dear! I totally appreciate what you have said. I too have dear friends and family to enjoy this evening.
No one out of this community would understand my situtation. I have been wise to keep my council on this otherwise I would sound like a madwoman.
The price we pay for settling for less than what we deserve. Oh those pigs with the pearl necklaces! I have not lost my sense of humor!
I detoxed yesterday by eating lots of chocolate and readling the Love Fraud communocations. What great therapy! The best NYE ever! I was not alone.