At a Christmas party on Saturday night, the conversation turned to hot water radiators. My husband, who is mechanically inclined, explained to a woman, who was trying to save money by conserving heat, how to bleed the air out of an old-style hot water heating system.
Eventually, the conversation revealed why the woman was trying to save money. She’d purchased an old farmhouse for her business. She secured a $150,000 construction loan to renovate the house and retained a contractor. The contractor insisted on installing the thermostat for the hot water heating system on a wall directly across from a wood burning stove. (For those of you who are not mechanically inclined, this is a really dumb idea.) The contractor also told the woman that she couldn’t insulate the farmhouse because moisture would create a mold problem. (This is true, but it is a problem that is readily solved, and insulating the house is a really good idea.)
Further conversation revealed that the contractor, who was president of some kind of historical building society, had not completed $70,000 worth of work for which he had been paid. The bank repeatedly came to inspect the job, bought the guy’s stories about why the work wasn’t done, and released the next installment of money. The farmhouse owner, of course, signed off on all the payments.
At one point a bank representative asked the farmhouse owner, “Are you sure about this guy?”
“Oh, he’s fine,” she replied. “He’s the president of the historical building society.”
The contractor hasn’t paid the subcontractors, and they’re demanding their money from the farmhouse owner. She hired a lawyer, who went along with a plan suggested by the contractor’s lawyer, which was useless. So now the woman is trying to save her home and her business. Plus, she’s cold.
“Sounds like you’re dealing with a sociopath,” I said.
I don’t know if this woman has any good options. We suggested that she sue the bank, because the bank released the money. But she approved payments, so that may not work. She can’t afford another lawyer. As has happened to many of us who have dealt with sociopaths, she may be stuck holding the bag.
Fort Dix Five
This woman may suffer terrible financial losses. But others involved with sociopaths lose much more.
A few weeks ago, in The con man, the thug and the jihadists, I wrote about the five young Muslim men who were on trial for plotting a terrorist attack against U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Most of the prosecution’s case was based on conversations secretly recorded by an informant, an illegal immigrant from Egypt, who was paid $240,000 by the FBI.
I predicted that the jury would see that the informant was a con man who manipulated the young men. I predicted that the defendants would walk. I was wrong.
The five young Muslims were convicted of conspiring to kill military personnel. They were acquitted of the more serious charge of attempted murder because they didn’t actually do anything. Still, they all face life in prison.
Yes, they did go to a shooting range in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania, shot at targets and shouted “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great.” They videotaped themselves doing this and brought the tape to a Circuit City store to be converted to DVD. One of them also downloaded violent jihadist videos from the Internet.
But would they have actually have gone any further? Would they have even discussed plans, which were nothing more than vague, wild ideas, if they hadn’t been goaded on by the sociopath, who was being paid to keep them talking?
I know how convincing sociopaths can be, so I don’t think they would have done anything without his encouragement. But I wasn’t on the jury, and the people who were apparently don’t understand sociopaths. So the young Muslims were left holding the bag. They may spend the rest of their lives in prison.
For his efforts, the con man informant, who was twice convicted of bank fraud, was promised legal residency in the United States, courtesy of our Justice Department.
Education is key
The consequences of entanglements with sociopaths are always negative, ranging in scale from unpleasant to deadly.
That’s why Lovefraud’s mission is to educate people about sociopaths. Right now, most people find Lovefraud because they’re already entangled with a sociopath and facing the consequences. We’ll soon announce a new initiative to help people cope with what has happened to them.
But eventually we hope to have programs to educate people about this personality disorder and the red flags of sociopathic behavior. Our goal is to help people escape the terrible consequences by avoiding the predators in the first place.
According to the Hopi prophecies, we are entering the Fifth world, and people with two hearts will not survive in this new world. Does that suggest that the “duplicitous” will not survive? From so many traditions, we have prophecies that say we are facing mighty changes. “End times” some people say.
I like the way the Hopi state it, because it suggests that those of us with “true hearts” are the ones who are fit for the new future. The others just won’t survive in the New World.
I grew up in a Christian fundamentalist environment, and have studied plenty of Revelations, Armageddon, and all the rest. I like the way the Hopi express what Christ said, “The meek shall inherit the earth.”
Anetsu, thank you very much..I wish I had practiced my own “wisdom” more. LOL I am hoping that in this coming year I will improve my practice and do more practicing of what I “preach.” (((hugs))
Rune, I also grew up in a “fundamentalist” environment of “we are the ONLY ones with the RIGHT way, and everyone else is going to hell” attitude.
Of course as a child I didn’t have any way to realize what my mother primarily was teaching me. My step-father was a very loving and caring man and a good Christian example. His spirituality and his religion were very internalized. It is only recently that I realized how “scared of God” I was, or how my mother had infuenced me to not have a spirituality, but just a “religion” and to obey the “thou shalt nots….” but nothing about a RELATIONSHIP with God or even with myself.
I always knew my religion somehow didn’t “fit” what I felt, but then guilty feelings would set in, but now I have examined my own spirituality and my OWN interpretation of the Bible, and my relationship with God and I a seeing a WHOLE ‘NUTHER PERSPECTIVE.
I am examining my ‘parental tapes” inside my head and deciding which ones of these are valid and which ones are hog wash! I have studied many different cultures’ views, and encountered some when I was in Africa that are so gentle, and so kind and so connected with the universe.
I realized that my spiritual focus was outward rather than inward and I am working on internalizing them as well as expanding my scope. I feel like I have been looking in the wrong end of the telescope my whole life.
It amazes me how most “religions” say essentially the same thing, teach the same moral compass directions on how to live “well” in this life and the next. People, as you said “with two hearts” (or two FACES as we would say) is not to me the way to live in peace with others or with the universe and/or God.
Like Wini talks about the Psychopaaths not “humbling” themselves, they think they ARE a god. Those that set themselves above all—they will never be satisfied or happy, and yet they do so much damage to others in trying to find “satisfaction” or “happiness,” but whatever the “win,” the satisfaction doesn’t last long, so they have to seek new “wins” continually. Stoking their egos which are like 2-headed dogs, and you can’t fling enough meat at them to keep you from getting bitten.
Have a happy and safe and joyful new year!!!
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The meek shall inherit the earth is in the Bible! So I think we are all okay. Does it really matter whether the evolution theory is correct or not? I mean “WE” as humans have a coccyx(sp?) Which would suggest we came from the water and that is our remnant of a tail we once had as we evolutionized to humans. It has no purpose in our life but it is there. Then we evolved from all the cave man series of Neanderthal men which were extinct 20,000 years ago? So whats the bigger stretch to believe? I have been taught to believe the evolution theory in my quest for higher education. At the same time I have witnessed things in my life that were definitely of a higher power and had nothing to do with our “evolution”. I can’t explain them and do not try BUT I have witnessed them. So that gives me hope that one day I will get through to my “S” and she will see the light so to speak because humans are humans and I know deep beyond her own pain is someone just like me that has had experiences in her life that made her who she is. There was a starting point for her and we are very trainable subjects. I also know that there was something about her that told me “she was the one” for me. Maybe I am being dumb as hell and everything she did proved it but I still think that? Even after I knew her sociopathic behaviours and what she did to me I still think I can get through to her! God be with me!
Dear Anetsu. I also wanted with all my heart, my time and my skills to “rescue” the P by showing him real love I experienced so deeply with him and that I felt he could not experience since he was hurt in his early childhood. Later I found out that before me countless other women had tried to show him “real love”. One painting of his former girlfriend, mother of two of his three children, he got never married, hung over his bed saying : to my beloved …. with eternal love”, and he said that it ment nothing to him but he liked the matching colors that went very well with the color of the bedposts. He would not put it aside. I in a twisted way thought that he was “out of love with her”, not realizing he was never IN love with her. I had to face the brutal truth after a long time of constantly being put down in my efforts and being devalued countless times that I am not a qualified therapist to heal anybody who is quite comfi with his life so far, and that there won’t be any on earth. And it would not be an equal relationship by accompanying a loved one but an imbalanced crooked thing. I had to give up. I gave him a book on fear (my break of NC after 5 months, I must admit), so maybe he can find out for himself why he is so anxious of bonding, but beyond that it is just preposterous from MYSELF to even think about undertaking such a herculean task. And now I have promised myself, new year resolution, not thinking anymore about him but just concentrate on myself, pulling the plough straight ahead (beautiful analogy!). And I won’t miss the red flags! (my ex has had flying more red flags than on Red Square in Moscow on the celebration day of the October revolution!) I wish you all a very successful peaceful P-free 2009!
Anetsu
I respectfully dis agree!
Evolution does’nt interfear with my Faith either!
See If I get this Right ?
There is a critical time period when a child is born , of Growth! Literal Brain tissue Growth ! The stimulation of the mother and others pramotes brain growth! When this stimulation is missing or inadaquite for the individual child, a natural survival instinc kicks in to compensate for the lack of stimulation! The child learns to read people to manipulate them to get what it wants. Way before speach!
This is simalar to a blind person having more accute hearing!
In the Honneymoon Phase the Mirror! Part of that reflection is Your special/i’m special! When the truth is your just a tool for them to use!
I still think the same as you do! BUTT the situation was always esscalating and it was killing me the stress! Even when He was not here he was in my head. Thats the Brainwash!
1. Let go! Let God 2. NC 3. FORGIVEYOURSELF 4 .LIVELOVELIFE ! LOVEJJ
I think it’s truly miraculous that almost all of us here had slipped a little, or moved away from our faith, when we became entangled with our spaths, & that very raping of our hearts & souls took us back to our faith & beliefs. I know I, too, had walked away from my beliefs for a long time. Since the s., my faith has been restored & strenghthened. I still believe God has put us all together here for a reason, that we have been baptized by fire, so to speak, so that we can first help each other rebuild what was broken inside us, then to help others. I think 2009 will be a huge turning point for us here at the LF Family. I can’t explain why I feel like that, I just know that I have sent on my path to healing through the wonderful folks here.
Dear Anetsu,
That feeling you have of “I can get through to her some way if I try hard enough to find the KEY” is what is called by some as “Malignant hope” or TOXIC HOPE.
It is “magical thinking”—I too stayed in that mindset for decades about my P son. I just KNEW if there was a way to find the MAGICAL PHRASE OR WORD that would get through to him, ALL WOULD BE WELL. He would be SAVED and I set out to find it. If one thing didn’t “work” I would try another.
Of course, nothing worked. Nothing could work. HE WAS HAPPY WITH HIMSELF. Even when he first got put in “big boy’s prison” at age 18 for two years for a robbery, he didn’t LEARN, he had NO intention of “going straight” when he got out. PRESTO! He went right back to prison for murder 5 months after he got out the first time. He did NOT learn. The only difference the second time is he was already “adjusted” to prison, didn’t fear it, and could function there in a twisted way.
Part of the problem, at least for me, was that I ALSO DIDN’T LEARN FROM MY MISTAKES. I kept on hoping. I felt it was my JOB TO FIX MY SON. It is NOT our jobs to “fix” anyone else. Even if we can PLAINLY SEE THEIR PROBLEMS, it is NOT OUR JOB.
That is called “enabling” and basically we are ARROGANT enough that we think we KNOW BETTER HOW TO RUN THEIR LIVES. From OUR point of view, WE DO.
Personally, I think it should be EASY for him to avoid jail, I have avoided even being arrested because I don’t do illegal things (well, I do speed once in a while) or obviously dangerous things. I see behaving in a legal and safe and sane way as GOOD SENSE. He sees it as STUPID and BORING.
He does NOT want to be “fixed”–he likes himself just the way he is, thank you.
We love them, they do NOT love us. We want the best for them, for them to be happy, but they are in their own minds, just fine thank you, it is the WORLD that is out of step.
Getting down off my arrogant idea that it was my duty, my job to provide for my child/mother/BF and to sacrifice myself to “fix” them, to make their life wonderful was a difficult task for me, because it had been my life-long pursuit to fix the world.
My late husband was 15 yrs older than I am, and I had known him since I was a kid, back when I DID HONESTLY THINK I “knew everything.” I remember being in a restaurant with him and several of our close friends who were his age, and I was about 19. I was pontificating on how to fix all the problems of the world, war, poverty, illiteracy, disease, etc. and I can still remember the look on his face that night.
In later years when I realized I did NOT know the cure for all the world’s evils, I looked back and was so embarassed about my behavior that night. I asked him, “How could you have put up with my arrogance and pontificating?” He laughed and he said “But you were so cute at it!”
As I get older I realize just how LITTLE I KNOW, how expert I am on so FEW things.
Stiles,
I heard or read somewhere once that “sometimes you have to be flat on your back with nowhere to turn before you LOOKK UP.”
I definitely think that was the case with me. I realized finally that I did not and could not run the world or make things like I wanted them to be. I had to accept that I was “powerless to change things” outside of myself. I had to accept them whether I liked it or not.
King of Nothing
sstiles: it is certainly possible that walking away from faith can set us up for the weakness that a s/p/n can easily see. but that’s not always the case. when i came back to my s/p/n (after six years away and only seeing him 5x a year or so and phone conversations), i was incredibly strong. i had a strong faith and had been taking martial arts/qigong/meditation classes 6x a week. of course, since i only had the BEST of the creep, i never realized i was getting wound up in his web!
i am certain, though, if i hadn’t been as strong as i was when i moved back to be with him, i’d have been dead with the stress and horror he put me through. i think god knew i had to be strong to go through this and finally get that psycho-demon out from under my skin.
i’m am grateful for the test, because now i have a testimony to the greatness of the unfolding universe. i have no regrets. if i had to almost die to be free … so be it.
towanda …