At a Christmas party on Saturday night, the conversation turned to hot water radiators. My husband, who is mechanically inclined, explained to a woman, who was trying to save money by conserving heat, how to bleed the air out of an old-style hot water heating system.
Eventually, the conversation revealed why the woman was trying to save money. She’d purchased an old farmhouse for her business. She secured a $150,000 construction loan to renovate the house and retained a contractor. The contractor insisted on installing the thermostat for the hot water heating system on a wall directly across from a wood burning stove. (For those of you who are not mechanically inclined, this is a really dumb idea.) The contractor also told the woman that she couldn’t insulate the farmhouse because moisture would create a mold problem. (This is true, but it is a problem that is readily solved, and insulating the house is a really good idea.)
Further conversation revealed that the contractor, who was president of some kind of historical building society, had not completed $70,000 worth of work for which he had been paid. The bank repeatedly came to inspect the job, bought the guy’s stories about why the work wasn’t done, and released the next installment of money. The farmhouse owner, of course, signed off on all the payments.
At one point a bank representative asked the farmhouse owner, “Are you sure about this guy?”
“Oh, he’s fine,” she replied. “He’s the president of the historical building society.”
The contractor hasn’t paid the subcontractors, and they’re demanding their money from the farmhouse owner. She hired a lawyer, who went along with a plan suggested by the contractor’s lawyer, which was useless. So now the woman is trying to save her home and her business. Plus, she’s cold.
“Sounds like you’re dealing with a sociopath,” I said.
I don’t know if this woman has any good options. We suggested that she sue the bank, because the bank released the money. But she approved payments, so that may not work. She can’t afford another lawyer. As has happened to many of us who have dealt with sociopaths, she may be stuck holding the bag.
Fort Dix Five
This woman may suffer terrible financial losses. But others involved with sociopaths lose much more.
A few weeks ago, in The con man, the thug and the jihadists, I wrote about the five young Muslim men who were on trial for plotting a terrorist attack against U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Most of the prosecution’s case was based on conversations secretly recorded by an informant, an illegal immigrant from Egypt, who was paid $240,000 by the FBI.
I predicted that the jury would see that the informant was a con man who manipulated the young men. I predicted that the defendants would walk. I was wrong.
The five young Muslims were convicted of conspiring to kill military personnel. They were acquitted of the more serious charge of attempted murder because they didn’t actually do anything. Still, they all face life in prison.
Yes, they did go to a shooting range in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania, shot at targets and shouted “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great.” They videotaped themselves doing this and brought the tape to a Circuit City store to be converted to DVD. One of them also downloaded violent jihadist videos from the Internet.
But would they have actually have gone any further? Would they have even discussed plans, which were nothing more than vague, wild ideas, if they hadn’t been goaded on by the sociopath, who was being paid to keep them talking?
I know how convincing sociopaths can be, so I don’t think they would have done anything without his encouragement. But I wasn’t on the jury, and the people who were apparently don’t understand sociopaths. So the young Muslims were left holding the bag. They may spend the rest of their lives in prison.
For his efforts, the con man informant, who was twice convicted of bank fraud, was promised legal residency in the United States, courtesy of our Justice Department.
Education is key
The consequences of entanglements with sociopaths are always negative, ranging in scale from unpleasant to deadly.
That’s why Lovefraud’s mission is to educate people about sociopaths. Right now, most people find Lovefraud because they’re already entangled with a sociopath and facing the consequences. We’ll soon announce a new initiative to help people cope with what has happened to them.
But eventually we hope to have programs to educate people about this personality disorder and the red flags of sociopathic behavior. Our goal is to help people escape the terrible consequences by avoiding the predators in the first place.
Dear Gem,
Im sure I have been guilty as charged a few times over the course of the past few years using that four letter word.
But I agree with you. And for all of us here, I would like to say, one of our friends here respectfully asked us a few days ago to TRY not to use foul language. Isnt our goal to be respectful in return — to our friends and family? Im not saying anyone did anything wrong here — we are all adults — but what we may not have done was take Gems request as seriously as we should have.
Gem, thank you for pointing out something we all could benefit from — using less foul language. Especially knowing we are encouraging teens to visit LF..and mostly just because its a positive for the better awareness for all of us to be more aware of our choice of words.
Thanks Gem
Rbabe:
No…..
Ifyou contact him….wha’ts gonna change??
Is it gonna change just becuase YOU want it to….NO.
Can you live with how he was/is? No.
GIRL…you SENSE he’s doing it to her……uh, yeah…..a lepard doesn’t change his spots……he’s doing the smooze….set up for the ATTACK!…..
Be thankful it’s NOT YOU!!!
Trust me…..this first time is like a kick to the gut……but just remember…..THANK GOD I”M OUT!!!! it does get better…..
the more distance you have…..
If you can’t handle what you see…..DON”T LOOK!!!!!
I am at a point where anything I hear or see is just a pathetic reminder/confirmation of just how right I was…..my blinders are off……
Sure, I miss the fantasy once in a while…..resenting how difficult things have become….and neverwanting to be walling this path……BUT THE WHO he is…..I’ve NEVER questioned since I left…..
for a million reasons….
I see his FB and it’s soooooo pathetic…..he is exposing himself to the world……what an idiot he is…..he trashes his kids mother AND the woman he spent 28 years with……he’s illiterate and can’t form a sentence with any sort of punctuation…..and he just looks like a moron….a woman recently called him out on not being able to understand his posts……as he’s going on and on about her ASS….and the ‘eveil’ one…(me)…
So……collect yourself……find your strength and pick yourself up……and be thankful…..YOUR not in this situation again!!!!!
XXOO
EB
Robxsykobabe –
Hey there. Sorry you are struggling today.
All I can say — if you take a snapshot picture of yourself with him back when you were with him – at certain stages along the way – the “appearance” of you both being happy would be there — but the truth would be hidden in the photo.
This was very hard for me to do — not check out his FB, or all the other many things I was doing to “find out” whats going on in his life. But the truth is whats going on in his life now — is what was going on in his life with you back then. They dont change R-babe… its all for appearance sake…
They will always be with another victim… they will always be innately unhappy and unable to give true compassion friendship love and understanding. Its a process with new ones – just like it was with us — they go through stages — no need to check into FB — there will be a new face there in 18 months or sooner….
You need to shift your focus BACK TO YOU and HEALING — no need to go to his FB page — he is still the jerk he showed you to be — he is still lying to himself and others.
You dont really want him back – living the way you were – being treated the way you were . Unable to trust. Not knowing the real him because he chooses not to let anyone see the real him — they would run!!!!! Let someone else put up with him — sadly she will see the light when she is ready to. You have seen the light — dont go back to the darkness looking on his FB. He is still the same. You deserve better.
I dont know why we ALL struggle with this – but we do – and we all get to a better place once we stop going back there and start to let go more and more. Its just so hard…sometimes…still…even for me. xox
FLower:
Are you currently still living together?
Dear Robs, I’m sorry you’re feeling bad. Your first mistake was accessing his FB page. I know how tempting it is, but you can resist that temptation…Take it 5 minutes at a time and make a commitment not to go there. Remember how you are feeling NOW, next time you’re feeling curious.
Remember that You are the one in control, it doesn’t matter WHY he posted those pictures…You don’t want him, anyway.
You can bet that He will be treating her the same way he treated you…That happy face won’t last long! Try to say to yourself, “better her than me.” It might help.
Hope you feel better soon. (If Oxy was here she would boink you for going on FB…I am boinking gently. NO,NO,NO. No more FB for you. Understand?)
Erin-
We are about one year post divorce. I am now trying to raise children and protect them. He is on HUGE smear /personal image rebuilding since he is MD and rep to protect. Confusing children with lies. I am totally NO CONTACT. Emails or texts only. Followed me last year and threatened to kill me. I need all advice to fight this.
EB:
I need the reminders of all the crap that happned. Im seeing someone myself and you know what…he does alot of the same things the ex did…but in a different way (like I dont feel used because he actually has MORE than me) and Im freaking out about that too.
Seeing that picture did feel like a kick to the stomache..and i wondered immediately ‘it took him less than 5 months to move on’ after I was the person he ‘loved more than anyone he ever loved”.
Im so sad
R-babe,
He is not like you. He probably could move on in 24 hours from anyone – including somebody he married.
Take a few minutes to take a deep breath and start to remind yourself why you left – remember all the things that caused you to see him as toxic and bad for you. It REALLY wasnt working for you — and once you were on to him — it wasnt going to work for him. And the same with the next one and the next one.
FOCUS on what you have here and now in your life. All the blessings. If you are seeing someone now and its not feeling right – you may not be ready to be in another relationship… something I had to grasp was two people could have nothing or someone could have MORE or LESS than the other — thats ALL ok – as long as you are being treated right and not being taken advantage of and also choosing not to take advantage of the other. Its such a fine line — its an awareness of what is — what boundaries are — and that the most important thing is respect, enjoyment, compatability and being happy with yourself first and foremost.
Your ex is NOT the answer for you R-babe. You experienced him and who he was and he was not right for you – his choices are bad, not decent, respectful of you or healthy for you.
ps. It is my guess he has NEVER LOVED or KNOWN HOW TO LOVE ANYONE …INCLUDING HIMSELF. He may have had feelings for you – but he isnt man enough to follow through with the actions it takes to be a decent partner.
Im sorry your sad — as you go through it — try to remember how sad you were when you were with him and that there were no solutions except to stay and settle for less…. you have choices now that he is gone – you can bring back your own happiness — dont look back at his FB. He is toxic for you in your life
Robs-
I have visited places for the purpose of getting info since I have children to protect…unfortunately I get angry when I see what is going on. I am past hurt but anger is still not good.
If you must gather info for child custody have a friend visit and print out anything useful. Otherwise if this is just for “curiosity”…remember what it did to the cat.
NEVER LOOK BACK. If you have no physical ties with him…dont make emotional ties; they only hurt you.
Stay strong; take care of you!! The time spent looking at his dsyfunction could be used to see a movie, read a book, plant a flower. Love yourself, God loves you and sees it all.
Your deserve true love, from friends, your faith, your family.
robxsykobabe – aw girl, i am sorry it’s so hard today.
do you have a picture of the two of you near the end of your relationship? One that shows how YOU were really feeling?
if you do, look at that.
if not, you can draw an outline of the two of you and put words in – how you felt in your outline, and what he did in his.
you sound strong. that you will continue caring for yourself. getting through this one is an inoculation.
it’s like the illusions we live with need to be shattered at deeper and deeper levels, and the process is painful. sooner or later tho’ all that will be left is dust. and that has a grief of its own.
you are doing marvelously.