At a Christmas party on Saturday night, the conversation turned to hot water radiators. My husband, who is mechanically inclined, explained to a woman, who was trying to save money by conserving heat, how to bleed the air out of an old-style hot water heating system.
Eventually, the conversation revealed why the woman was trying to save money. She’d purchased an old farmhouse for her business. She secured a $150,000 construction loan to renovate the house and retained a contractor. The contractor insisted on installing the thermostat for the hot water heating system on a wall directly across from a wood burning stove. (For those of you who are not mechanically inclined, this is a really dumb idea.) The contractor also told the woman that she couldn’t insulate the farmhouse because moisture would create a mold problem. (This is true, but it is a problem that is readily solved, and insulating the house is a really good idea.)
Further conversation revealed that the contractor, who was president of some kind of historical building society, had not completed $70,000 worth of work for which he had been paid. The bank repeatedly came to inspect the job, bought the guy’s stories about why the work wasn’t done, and released the next installment of money. The farmhouse owner, of course, signed off on all the payments.
At one point a bank representative asked the farmhouse owner, “Are you sure about this guy?”
“Oh, he’s fine,” she replied. “He’s the president of the historical building society.”
The contractor hasn’t paid the subcontractors, and they’re demanding their money from the farmhouse owner. She hired a lawyer, who went along with a plan suggested by the contractor’s lawyer, which was useless. So now the woman is trying to save her home and her business. Plus, she’s cold.
“Sounds like you’re dealing with a sociopath,” I said.
I don’t know if this woman has any good options. We suggested that she sue the bank, because the bank released the money. But she approved payments, so that may not work. She can’t afford another lawyer. As has happened to many of us who have dealt with sociopaths, she may be stuck holding the bag.
Fort Dix Five
This woman may suffer terrible financial losses. But others involved with sociopaths lose much more.
A few weeks ago, in The con man, the thug and the jihadists, I wrote about the five young Muslim men who were on trial for plotting a terrorist attack against U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Most of the prosecution’s case was based on conversations secretly recorded by an informant, an illegal immigrant from Egypt, who was paid $240,000 by the FBI.
I predicted that the jury would see that the informant was a con man who manipulated the young men. I predicted that the defendants would walk. I was wrong.
The five young Muslims were convicted of conspiring to kill military personnel. They were acquitted of the more serious charge of attempted murder because they didn’t actually do anything. Still, they all face life in prison.
Yes, they did go to a shooting range in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania, shot at targets and shouted “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great.” They videotaped themselves doing this and brought the tape to a Circuit City store to be converted to DVD. One of them also downloaded violent jihadist videos from the Internet.
But would they have actually have gone any further? Would they have even discussed plans, which were nothing more than vague, wild ideas, if they hadn’t been goaded on by the sociopath, who was being paid to keep them talking?
I know how convincing sociopaths can be, so I don’t think they would have done anything without his encouragement. But I wasn’t on the jury, and the people who were apparently don’t understand sociopaths. So the young Muslims were left holding the bag. They may spend the rest of their lives in prison.
For his efforts, the con man informant, who was twice convicted of bank fraud, was promised legal residency in the United States, courtesy of our Justice Department.
Education is key
The consequences of entanglements with sociopaths are always negative, ranging in scale from unpleasant to deadly.
That’s why Lovefraud’s mission is to educate people about sociopaths. Right now, most people find Lovefraud because they’re already entangled with a sociopath and facing the consequences. We’ll soon announce a new initiative to help people cope with what has happened to them.
But eventually we hope to have programs to educate people about this personality disorder and the red flags of sociopathic behavior. Our goal is to help people escape the terrible consequences by avoiding the predators in the first place.
peaceatlast,
revenge got me nothing but looking like an idiot or a raving lunatic. Even when she assaulted me for the third time and I finally called the police(they didnt believe me either)They are much better at their games than we will ever be. And my yearning for revenge has escalated since Ive gotten the courage to finally stay away from my crazy “S”. Im still in the beginnings of getting her out of my life for good and because of this website I can see and distinguish what she doing with her actions and words. Just a couple of days ago she showed up at my house all crying saying saying she didnt want me to leave her and saying all the right things. I stuck to my committment to myself(even though I just wanted to take her in my arms) and told her to leave. which she did driving away in some other womans car(LOL). then the texts started saying that she never appreciated me enough, she never told me I was beautiful enough and she couldnt live without me,etc. And then I got pissed off because I knew this was a ploy of hers so I broke the no contact rule and emailed her telling her what I thought of her and that she needed to stay of my life forever. Do not contact me,email me,text me, or ever show up at my house again! and what did she do? A 360……..just hrs before she was telling me how she couldnt live without me and all this sob crap and I got a manuscript back from her dogging not only me and twisted things she had taken from our personal lives, she attacked my family saying they were trailer trash, she said I was old and broke(I pretty much am because of her) that if she couldnt love the one she wanted she would love the one she was with! And she know of one dream in my life that I always have regretted that didnt come true for me and she told me that I was crazy for ever thinking I could have that dream because I never did stand a chance at having it! She even attacked my faith because she witnessed me giving my life to Christ over a yr ago and now I am a musician for this church. Even though a month after she did the same thing(so fake she is) ang guess what? Now my revenge level is even more escalated!!!! But I know that my revenge is getting my life back and getting her sad existence totally out of mine. In a way I guess I can correlate my leaving as a sort of rehab situation. I have to retrain myself not to succumb to patterns of behaviour that pretty much destroyed my life
peaceatlast
You ask
“Should I do this? I can cover my tracks on this. This woman does not know that behind this supposed religious man lurks a man who is addicted to porn, bottomless strip clubs, sex with married women (one had to have an abortion) and countless other painful acts. I am ashamed of my attraction to this man. I would love to see him humliated and dumped. I was foolish enough to think that I could reform him. ”
But if you read your own post, YOU knew a lot of bad things about him and still took him back. If you tell her, why should she react any differently? That will only leave you even more frustrated…
I found out about my P, dumped him, notified all the other women on the dating list I had met him through, and found FIVE others he was “playing” with. As a result, I now have three new girlfriends and we meet now and then to tear his character to shreds! Great fun and very cathartic and it serves to remind us why we are all there when any of us weaken and beging to believe it can’t have been all bad!
He has even reported to one of the others that I am now stalking him, (no way! And he doesn’t know we know each other) so she and I have notified our local police stations that, should anything happen to either of us, this is his name and address. We are all convinced that the “game” he has been playing is beginning to lack excitement for him and he will step it up a level and become dangerous, but there is nothing the police can do about our suspicions until some poor woman gets hurt. Hopefully then the evidence of the four of us will help.
We have analysed why the P managed to get round us as well as he did and there is one thing in common: we all had bad marriages where we were “trained” to accept the blame for the things that went wrong. Consequently, when our instincts told us something wasn’t quite right with the P relationship, we all went back to old habits and assumed it was our own baggage causing the problem! A very valuable lesson to learn – if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck!
Oxy,
thank you for the clarification and your support. And you are absolutely right. Trash comes inall shapes and siszes and from all socioeconomic backgrounds.
By the way, the XS/P was apparently fired from his job. I guess they can’t keep up the fake appearances forever. I also heard the x stripper is living with him now along with her jailbird brother. THis is the house I built and picked out every item in it. But I look at it this way. I would be paying for everything now, even the dysfunctional adult daughters. THe last cconversation we had before I ditched him a year ago had something to do with the fact that he had just moved in, already had a $30,000 line of credit going on the house and had two more years of college to pay for which wasn’t saved. He had boutght a four wheeler (the redneck was starting to com out) and he told me if I pay off his line of credit he would just put my name on the house…… I DON”T THINK SO!!!!!!! I had heard he had heart surgery also. The affects of steroid abuse were catching up, along with liver and kidney problems. AND his testicles weren’t small from being tortured. They were small because he used HGH over a number of years. God help me to get past all of this. A year later and I am still angry.
oh yeah! My ex (sociopath) is in construction. In fact when he was with me I had him do all kinds of work on my house and business. EVERYTHING HE DID I HAD TO REDO!
He also did NOT insulate my house…which is sidded over log. This house has to be gutted out, room by room, to rid it of crumbling plaster. Then it HAS to be studded up (like a new house) AND INSULATED THEN DRYWALLED!!! The schmuck just put drywall on top of crumbling plaster. Looked good but WAS EFFIN COLD!
The plumbing. Let’s talk about the plumbing he had his contractors that were affiliated with this company he worked for. They put the plumbing (which had none when I bought the house) or ran the pipes so that the basement door wouldn’t shut or open!!! He says,”Use your wizord of oz doors!” Then in the bathroom, he put the vanity sink in on an OUTSIDE WALL– so that we had to open the doors to put a heater pointed into the pipes under my sink! OMG!!
I would PAY HIM through the company and I’m suspecting he got the leftovers! Meaning–they paid him what I paid in over charges because DUMBY ME, DIDN’T GET ANY KNID OF BREAK DOWN ON WORK OR PRODUCTS OR ANYTHING! I just wrote the check to his bosses name and he got his cut out of that!!
OMG!! he did other crap that is too much to go into on here–but i was soo devestated I got down to 88 pounds! That’s how much i weighed! WHAT THE HELL WAS MY BODY THINKING??!!!! I AM SOOO GLAD HE’S GONE! He was so much trouble…constantly I had to reassure him that my dogs didn’t come first (YES THEY DID….)…He’d say,”You don’t love me…you love the dogs more!!! –as he’s kicking the sofa behind him.
I am sooo creeped out today!!! I DID A STUPID THING. I have a my space account and I’m trying to keep in touch with his kids (who were 6 and 3 when i met them) Now they are 18 and 21yrs. old. So after trying to keep in touch…(they were so mean to me! The girl put her tampon wrappers in between my matress and boxspring–what the “H” was this about?) I looked him up on there, and there was his creepy face!!! omg. HE HAD ONE FRIEND. Some women who LOOKS JUST LIKE ME!!! (of couse it was not me!) And she wrote all kinds of stuff…like “I love him he’s mine now “b”and stupid stuff…I JUST BLOCKED HIM! I don’t EVEN want to see his FACE! It’s so evil looking anyway! He is bald with a long goatee! AND THAT STARE!!! WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING?
The kids were 16 and 12 when we broke up and sometimes when I put my sign up, I see him driving by. Why does the shcmuck do that?!!! He left End of story! But the kids I feel like I should keep in touch with. I helped them with their school work and had them everyother day and weekends too! Now they’ve turned against me…should I have NC with them also? Should I block them from that internet thingy too? I mean the girl seems so angry!
Even though I NEVER post on here (well it’s been awhile) I still read what you all say! It’s been four years and I’m still TRYING to rid him in my thoughts –g-d that was sooo creepy yesturday! My choice was to go take a pill or go to the movies…went to the movies. Anyone proud of my lonelyassself?
You all are here and that helps even if you don’t write me back. hairellen here!
I didn’t know anything about Sociopaths, never heard the word before.. until I had the misfortune to get involved with one, it seems that the Americans are far more aware of them even if these evil people are everywhere in the world. I cannot understand why we in London are not educated about such people, why there are no programmes on television to warn people of such evil so we can avoid the inevitable pain, it is amazing that people that i’ve spoken to, don’t know anything about them – including the police!
Ignorance is NOT BLISS!
Oh tryingtoheal–don’t kick yourself! There’s all kinds of studies coming out that’s on the internet THAT’S FROM THE UK. I am surprised that you haven’t seen those blogs/ or utube videos! The UK. is so much more up and coming then the US!! JUST GOOGLE IT BABY!
Seriously, have you got on to Dr. sandra Brown’s site called “The institute for reduction of regional relationship harm?” Holy cow! I don’t have it right! But just google DR. SANDRA BROWN–SHE WROTE some great books and she’s doing some work (her life’s mission!) to educate and heal women and men who come across these “missing” (part of the brain) types. She’s GREAT! She’s written and published books and articles for like thirty yrs.!
OMG! I wish she was my mother or at least a sister!
I STILL HATE MYSELF FOR LOOKING UP MY EX IN MY SPACE! SO CREEPY!
Dear Hairellen,
You asked about NC with his kids too, but you answered your own question–“they are against me”
ANYONE that was or is connected to the X should be NC because it keeps the “connection” IN YOUR HEAD.
Even plotting revenge against him, or thinking about him keeps the “relationship” going emotionally.
I’m glad you are stillcoming here and reading, because learning about these creeps is the only thing that will let you eventually get them out of your head. Knowledge=Power. Take back your power! Forgive yourself.
REPEAT: FORGIVE YOUSELF THEN GET BACK ON THE HEALING PATH.
(((((hugs)))))) God Bless you!
Thank you, hairellen, I shall look her up! …tho I would much rather have learned about these evil ******** before I met the ‘S’ so I wouldn’t need to be healed..! Thats just it, you learn about all this – AFTER THE EVENT!!!
I hadn’t known such evil existed- I looked up abuse on google, and arrogance and.. there he was in black and white, I spent the next 3 weeks and sometimes, like now, learning more and more, just how DARE the police say I’m not qualified!! How much more qualified do I have to be, like all of us here, we’re all fully qualified!!! We have a first hand damned degree! How I hope I don’t get conned again.. Aaarrrghhhhh
Happy New Year hairellen, peace and happiness..and thanks x
Having just read your experience, Hairellen, sounds like you are over-qualified – how HORRENDOUS!
Hope being here will help you rid him of your thoughts, though I know its easier said than done – every time I think he’s gone – he pops up again in my mind or in one of those ‘private number’ calls.. but I think its getting easier.. and I wish this for you and everyone on here…PEACE and true love xx
Hairellen, ironically, my son is with someone with borderline disorder and………. had a child with her… long story but his xmas present is STILL on the table – she forbids him having contact with me and my daughter, has lied, had him put in a police cell and…..tried to have me arrested a week after my fathers funeral – I had text my son, that was my ‘crime’ – because she forbid him to go to the funeral – she wanted to be the centre of attention!
I was eventually arrested on her pathological lies and put in a cell for 2 hours… after other things she has done after that, I am told, by the police that she WILL be arrested – when they have the time to do it – ( knife crime, murder and the like.. must take precedence)
I am now trying to overturn the caution I accepted (stupidly) just to get out of the police station and then…. I met my sociopath.. who tried to help me with HER! and now at the end of the year I have the ‘flu and had xmas with – my tv! Yes.. roll on 2009