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Entanglements with sociopaths always have consequences

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December 29, 2008 //  by Donna Andersen//  479 Comments

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At a Christmas party on Saturday night, the conversation turned to hot water radiators. My husband, who is mechanically inclined, explained to a woman, who was trying to save money by conserving heat, how to bleed the air out of an old-style hot water heating system.

Eventually, the conversation revealed why the woman was trying to save money. She’d purchased an old farmhouse for her business. She secured a $150,000 construction loan to renovate the house and retained a contractor. The contractor insisted on installing the thermostat for the hot water heating system on a wall directly across from a wood burning stove. (For those of you who are not mechanically inclined, this is a really dumb idea.) The contractor also told the woman that she couldn’t insulate the farmhouse because moisture would create a mold problem. (This is true, but it is a problem that is readily solved, and insulating the house is a really good idea.)

Further conversation revealed that the contractor, who was president of some kind of historical building society, had not completed $70,000 worth of work for which he had been paid. The bank repeatedly came to inspect the job, bought the guy’s stories about why the work wasn’t done, and released the next installment of money. The farmhouse owner, of course, signed off on all the payments.

At one point a bank representative asked the farmhouse owner, “Are you sure about this guy?”

“Oh, he’s fine,” she replied. “He’s the president of the historical building society.”

The contractor hasn’t paid the subcontractors, and they’re demanding their money from the farmhouse owner. She hired a lawyer, who went along with a plan suggested by the contractor’s lawyer, which was useless. So now the woman is trying to save her home and her business. Plus, she’s cold.

“Sounds like you’re dealing with a sociopath,” I said.

I don’t know if this woman has any good options. We suggested that she sue the bank, because the bank released the money. But she approved payments, so that may not work. She can’t afford another lawyer. As has happened to many of us who have dealt with sociopaths, she may be stuck holding the bag.

Fort Dix Five

This woman may suffer terrible financial losses. But others involved with sociopaths lose much more.

A few weeks ago, in The con man, the thug and the jihadists, I wrote about the five young Muslim men who were on trial for plotting a terrorist attack against U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Most of the prosecution’s case was based on conversations secretly recorded by an informant, an illegal immigrant from Egypt, who was paid $240,000 by the FBI.

I predicted that the jury would see that the informant was a con man who manipulated the young men. I predicted that the defendants would walk. I was wrong.

The five young Muslims were convicted of conspiring to kill military personnel. They were acquitted of the more serious charge of attempted murder because they didn’t actually do anything. Still, they all face life in prison.

Yes, they did go to a shooting range in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania, shot at targets and shouted “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great.” They videotaped themselves doing this and brought the tape to a Circuit City store to be converted to DVD. One of them also downloaded violent jihadist videos from the Internet.

But would they have actually have gone any further? Would they have even discussed plans, which were nothing more than vague, wild ideas, if they hadn’t been goaded on by the sociopath, who was being paid to keep them talking?

I know how convincing sociopaths can be, so I don’t think they would have done anything without his encouragement. But I wasn’t on the jury, and the people who were apparently don’t understand sociopaths. So the young Muslims were left holding the bag. They may spend the rest of their lives in prison.

For his efforts, the con man informant, who was twice convicted of bank fraud, was promised legal residency in the United States, courtesy of our Justice Department.

Education is key

The consequences of entanglements with sociopaths are always negative, ranging in scale from unpleasant to deadly.

That’s why Lovefraud’s mission is to educate people about sociopaths. Right now, most people find Lovefraud because they’re already entangled with a sociopath and facing the consequences. We’ll soon announce a new initiative to help people cope with what has happened to them.

But eventually we hope to have programs to educate people about this personality disorder and the red flags of sociopathic behavior. Our goal is to help people escape the terrible consequences by avoiding the predators in the first place.

Category: Media sociopaths, Seduced by a sociopath

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  1. witsend

    March 22, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    One,
    I would have just STARED at him. In awe.
    Old man look at my life……

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  2. one/joy_step_at_a_time

    March 22, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    …could i maybe just have the horses? my choice of naked people really has gotten me into hot water in the last few years. 😉

    I said the word sociopath in 2 settings today – to a guy who is a pastor and a friend of a new friend AND to a room full of dowsers (I went to a dowsers meeting, i want to learn how to find water) AND another woman their had had an experience with an N. WOW, a 3D person! I am pretty excited.

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  3. kim frederick

    March 22, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    How ’bout a big round of Sweet baby James.

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  4. geminigirl

    March 22, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    I can just imagine us a ll scoffing choc pecan cookies, and saying,”whatcha reckon these green flakes are on them? funny to have parsley on choc cookies! Must be a new cooking trend, and we must be “with it!” I feel a rainbow flake coming on!.-“———-This is a magical mystery tour, theyr coming to take us away!away away!!!!
    Hens, I used to have Weiner he was called Bentley. Is that the same as a dachshund?His little sister was called Chevvie.
    If he got told off for something, [usually chewing up someones sandals,} he had this way of looking at me,showing the whites of his eyes, as if to say,”I am BAD TO THE BONE and I plan on staying that way, and NO I WONT be good!! Love, Gem.XX

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  5. ErinBrock

    March 22, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    It’s YOUR Birthday….so just the horses it is!

    One….just turn on the tap! Much easier dear!!!

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  6. one/joy_step_at_a_time

    March 22, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    EB – i don’t remeber, have you done the metal detector in the back yard? sniffer dogs? i am SURE holly could be trained to find cash.

    Witty – i know, the lyrics are so amazing. i went to see the movie about him that came out in 2006(?), it was really soulful.

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  7. kim frederick

    March 22, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    One-step, Alice Cooper and now this?

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  8. one/joy_step_at_a_time

    March 23, 2010 at 12:00 am

    …ya know EB, I was Going to mention, ‘beyond turning on the tap 😉

    i have some land west of the city. not much, but enough (’cause i would have to grow something on it to pay agriculture tax, not housing tax) but if there is no water then it doesn’t make sense to figure out how to live out there.

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  9. hens

    March 23, 2010 at 12:00 am

    Gem Yes my weiners are dachshunds,,and one is named Pecker,,,he’s my man ~!

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  10. one/joy_step_at_a_time

    March 23, 2010 at 12:01 am

    kim – what can i say, i am a well rounded girl. 😉

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