The headline of a New York Times article sent to me by a Lovefraud reader last week was, Maybe bullies just want to be loved.
Yeah, right, I thought.
The article related the findings of two recent studies, one of them about schoolyard bullies. Dutch researchers from the University of Groningen investigated 481 elementary school children. Their findings, according to the Times:
Bullies tended to divide their classmates into potential sources of affection and targets for domination. The latter were children who had already been rejected by kids the bullies cared about: They didn’t count. Interestingly, bullies cared only about the approval of classmates of the same sex. Boys pick on kids whom their male peers disdain, but couldn’t care less what the girls think. Similarly, mean girls disregard their male classmates’ opinions. “Bullies are very strategic in their behavior,” explains the lead author, René Veenstra. “They’re looking for attention and affection from their own peer group.” In other words, bullies want friends.
The idea that bullies wanted affection and friends struck me as a bit odd, so I looked for more information on the study. It was published in the March/April 2010 issue of the journal Child Development. The full title is, The complex relation between bullying, victimization, acceptance, and rejection: Giving special attention to status, affection and sex differences.
Reading the beginning of the study, I came to realize the depth to which even the scientific community does not understand sociopaths. But before I explain this observation, let me provide a bit more background.
Multiple studies
This particular study is one of several published by the same group of Dutch researchers, apparently led by René Veenstra. They are involved in a long-term study of Dutch children called TRAILS (Tracking Adolescents’ Individual Lives Survey), designed to chart and explain the development of mental health and social development from preadolescence into adulthood. It began in 2000 and will continue through 2016.
Veenstra and colleagues published another study in 2005 called Bullying and victimization in elementary schools: A comparison of bullies, victims, bully/victims and uninvolved preadolescents. In the introduction, the study recounted the “Knowledge base on bullying:”
Research suggests that children and adolescents identified as bullies demonstrate poorer psychosocial functioning than their classmates. Bullies have been reported to be aggressive, impulsive, hostile, domineering, antisocial, and uncooperative toward peers and to exhibit little anxiety or insecurity. When they are in control, bullies feel more secure and less anxious. Surprisingly, according to self-reports, bullies make friends easily and obtain classmate support similar to that of uninvolved youth. Bullies believe they will achieve success through their aggression, are unaffected by inflicting pain and suffering, and process information about victims in a rigid and automatic fashion. Bullies believe that they pick on their victim because they are provoked or because they do not like the victim. They show poorer school adjustment, both in terms of achievement and well-being, and perceive less social support from teachers. These children may be more difficult in the classroom and frustrating for teachers. Evidence suggests that bullies come from homes in which parents prefer physical discipline, are sometimes hostile and rejecting, have poor problem-solving skills, and are permissive toward aggressive childhood behavior or even teach their children to strike back at the least provocation. (Citations omitted.)
In other words, schoolyard bullies are budding sociopaths, and often the children of full-fledged sociopaths. Other findings in the 2005 paper include:
- A boy was more likely to be a bully than was a girl.
- Parenting characteristics had no impact on bullying and victimization.
- A main characteristic of bullies was aggressiveness.
- Although bullies were disliked, they were not marginalized.
All of these findings are consistent with what we at Lovefraud know about sociopaths: They are more likely to be male than female. They do not necessarily come from a disadvantaged background. They make friends easily, even though they can be, when they feel like it, hostile, aggressive and impulsive. They feel entitled to abuse someone, claiming they are provoked.
Veenstra, therefore, is studying people who are high in sociopathic traits.
Seeking affection?
So let’s go back to the most recent study of schoolyard bullying by Veenstra et. al. In the beginning of it, he lays out a “theoretical elaboration” of the background for his study:
When studying interactions among children, what goals should be considered? Status and affection goals have frequently been identified as important for all human beings. Although we do not measure these goals directly, we have good evidence for their importance. Pendell (2002) has reviewed much literature that shows affection to be a universal need. The evolutionary and developmental importance of affection has also been shown. Status has also been established as a universal goal, and the importance of this goal for bullying has recently been directly assessed. Both goals are prominent in childhood and preadolescence as well. Thus, it seems to be a safe assumption that bullies, like other human beings, want to realize status and affection. (Citations omitted.)
This assumption is wrong. Bullies are, most likely, high in sociopathic traits. Sociopaths do not feel empathy for other human beings. They are not capable of love. They don’t want affection; they want narcissistic supply.
This study, however, concluded that bullies chose their victims in order to minimize the loss of affection from other members of their peer group. How did the researchers come to this conclusion? The children filled out self-report surveys in their school class. They were asked to name whom among their classmates were their friends, and whom they disliked. They were asked, “Who do you bully?” and “By whom are you bullied?” Based on the answers from all the participating children in the class, the researchers figured out which children were popular, which were bullies and which were victims, and who was friends with whom.
From this, the researchers determined that the bullies generally picked on the unpopular kids in the class. They wrote:
We predicted that bullies focus strategically on those potential same-gender victims who were rejected by and had low acceptance from same-gender classmates. For potential other-gender victims we hypothesized that children would focus on those who were rejected by the bullies’ same gender classmates. We found that victims of male bullies were indeed rejected by boys only and that male bullies were never low on acceptance. Thus, as expected, boys seem to choose their victims so as to minimize loss of affection.
I don’t know how these researchers made the leap from bullies picking low-status targets to bullies not wanting to lose the affection of their friends. I couldn’t find anyplace in the paper that described the researchers actually asking the bullies how they chose victims. If they had asked, I’m sure the answer would have been this: Unpopular kids were easy targets.
Clueless experts
These researchers are studying bullies. Bullying is a good indication of sociopathy. But the researchers are absolutely clueless about the nature of sociopaths.
Sociopaths do not want affection. They want power, control and sex. I hope these child bullies weren’t demanding sex from their victims, but they were certainly in pursuit of power and control.
If the experts on bullying don’t get it, no wonder the regular people of the world are confused about sociopaths.
The most difficult part is I know he wants me to just leave, so he can just continue his charade….but the dangerous part is I DO NOT want him to win……I want to take him down……this feels sicko to me…..and I can’t seem to shake it….
I feel like I will feel tormented forever if I walk with nothing….this kind of thinking has come from him somehow….I have had to become like him to survive…..I actually know I have let him blend his MIND with mine somehow……..YIKES….NO MORE…I want myself back…..is it too late?????
Gypsi:
I’m gonna ask you a hard question……
WHAT DO YOU HAVE NOW?
You aren’t getting any money from business….he’s holding anything over your head,
HE IS BURYING YOU…..
You MUST save some money, somehow, someway! Just enough to get out.
Do you have ANYONE in the states who can help you?
It’s time to ask for help. FIND IT AND GET IT!!!
I know belize is an insestuous area….and everyone knows everyone else…..can you get to Guatamala?
Can you sell some craft or mangoes on the side of road?
There is only one DV shelter in Cayo….SI area….
LEAVE, RUN, GET OUT!
He will take you down with him……
If you have a car……take a drive and get back into the states….HOME!
Get yourself deported if you can’t find the $$ for a plane tix back to states…..Now it’s a cheap time. Call the airlines and tell them your abused and cry for help….people donate airline miles for such purpose.
Call the Red Cross see if they can ‘evacuate’ you from BC to Florida.
Once back in the states, there is DV help.
Your on a sinking ship…..ask yourself…..how much would you gain selling this business…..and is it really saleable? How much is the property worth…..is anythign selling down there?
IS IT REALLY WORTH THE TIME AND HEALTH YOUR GONNA WASTE WAITING TO SELL…..and that’s IF you can get any money out of him THEN?
I say…..get out!!!!!! Cut your losses….it’ll cost you more in the long run.
STAY INCOGNITO FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY!!!!
GYPSI:
Women’s Issues Network of Belize
P.O Box 2471, 28 Dean Street
Belize City, Belize
Email: info@winbelize.bz
Phone: 501-227-1069
Fax: 501-227-1068
http://www.winbelize.bz
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Good News From Haven House
We are please to inform the
membership that Haven House
Shelter for Battered Women is
steadily developing. To date
one of the transition houses
has a resident and she is doing
well. In addition, the second
house is being expanded to a
three bedroom house and a
fence is being erected around
the property which was funded
by Social Security and the
ride across Belize. Those
funds were also used to
completely furnish both
transition houses, buy
appliances and furniture.
Haven House is also
networking with rotary for the
construction of a child care/
training center. We encourage
all women to speak out about
domestic violence and for
those with the information to
pass on the message that there
is a safe place for women in
situation of domestic violence.
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Dear Erin Brock…
I hear you loud and clear….I am on the edge…the shelter is on the next street….along with all the crack dealers….
I am seeing so clearly I am petrified….Still some insane idea that he will “see the light”……you are right……I must get out… I am afraid to feel safe once again…..like I will cry and cry and never stop…..and realize this most unnatural state I have been existing in for far too long…I thought I had healed all this abusive dad stuff…..this bond with this SP is unexplainable, yet deadly.
I will swallow my pride and ask for help (NOT for the first time) I am embarrassed….he actually threw our computer and phone system in to the sea…(so I could not have contact)..You are a lifeline….no one can understand this insanity…..I will keep you posted on my whereabouts….he is trying to reel me in again by rehabilitating himself off drugs and alcohol again!!!!!! Never happen…..
I must rehabilitate myself from him NOW…..it is only going to get worse……I can see that….no more fantasy……that info helpline is a start…….I have had enough mind-fucking for eternity…..these folks are real and they exist…..and they DO NOT WANT HELP……I will take some help and recover…..I did remove that post.
Gypsydi – The only way you will win is to leave him and go no contact..He has your power and he is controlling you. It has taken me two years to climb out of financial ruin. Erin has offered great support and advice. No contact is your only weapon and ultimate salvation.. You can do it..~!
Dear Rosa Thank you for the early father’s day wish.. I love taser’s, specially on those Cop show’s when those Billy bad asses wont cooperate with the cops, that taser makes em wiggle into submission..
{{{Gypsydi}}} My positive thoughts and energies are with you during this most frightening time – you will do it to save your very soul.
Make your move YESTERDAY and leave with whatever you can carry. NOTHING is worth the price of your own soul, my dear. “Things” can be replaced. Souls, on the other hand, cannot.
Brightest blessings to you, Gypsydi.
Oh……….as for “The Win?” The way to win is to live a happy and productive life. THAT’S the only win possible.
Gypsi:
Maybe it’s not that you want to win….it’s your definition of winning.
Is winning to you…..taking him ‘down’…..
Girl….that’s happening all by himself anyways….
You will WIN by escaping…..
Nobody does a ‘little crack’…….it’s like being a ‘little’ pregnant.
I know Belize and I know Belize City. Your in a very unhealthy environment…..and I don’t have to tell you.
There is nothing positive about your particular situation in Belize.
I’m also guessing you don’t have equity in the actual property….and from the reviews and visual of the property…..your business has taken a HUGE nosedive with these behaviors . In the service/hospitality business….this property is sunk!!! these reviews will be on the internet for YEARS.
The only guests your going to attract is his like kind.
MUCH EASIER TO START FRESH….YOURSELF……
You are not an expat who is living her dream…..you are not running a resort in a nice area doing jungle/reef tours from your balcony.
Your setup is transient for tourists, with the ‘benefit’ of him being local and ‘in’ with the crackheads in BC.
You are not connected and your environment is NOT EVER going to be conducive to being connected. It’s transient at best.
Do I have to remind you of the HIV situation in Belize? With Crack behaviors…….abuse, drugs, sexual abuse…..
=DEATH!
You left once…..make the FINAL decision of what YOU want out of life…..and go find it!!!!!
It’s up to you and you CAN do whatever you desire…..you just have to commit and move in that direction.
It’s time to be 1000% honest with yourself and take action!!!
Do NOT worry about him……he’ll be dead soon enough with his own behaviors…….
Don’t dig a grave for 2!!!
Good luck….your in my thoughts….I have faith in you!!!!
XXOO
EB