By Joyce Alexander, RNP (retired)
I like to think of myself as pretty wise, now that I have learned to recognize most of the red flags of dishonesty and people high in psychopathic traits. But I recently got scammed by three people working in concert. They also scammed another party as well.
I bought a dog that was actually stolen. Here’s how it happened:
I went to a web site in Georgia looking for dogs that are trained as protection dogs. They cost quite a bit of money, starting at about $5,000 and I knew this. This man offered me a “sport” trained dog for $4,000 plus freight which would put her in the $5,000 range, but he had a woman trainer here in Arkansas who could teach me to handle the dog (for more money of course). Since I had trained dogs most of my life in obedience and other high level training, I felt secure in handling a dog, but wanted help with this particular kind of training.
I spoke to the woman trainer here in Arkansas (about a two-hour drive from me), whom I’ll call “Sue,” and she and I talked and talked about dogs and training dogs. Over the telephone and in e-mails we exchanged, we just seemed to be almost instant “sisters” (the love bomb). Then the guy in Georgia quit returning my calls and I got frustrated with him. Meanwhile, the sweet woman trainer here in Arkansas said she had also had some problems with this guy, but she left her information up on his web site anyway, but guess what? She would rescue me and she had the perfect dog for me here in Arkansas! For only $1300! WOW what a bargain.
Meeting Sheba
Son D and I drove to Little Rock, about an hour from our house, to the home of a large man I will call “George.” I watched as George trained dogs and their owners in obedience in a large field next to his house. Then I watched as George, in a leather body suit and a “bite sleeve,” trained dogs in protection. He was amazing and the dogs were amazing. I met Sheba, the dog that Sue, the female trainer, said was perfect for me. I watched as Sheba flew through the air like a frisbee to latch onto the arm of the decoy in the bite suit. Even for a 70-pound dog, she was powerful.
Son D and I spent over an hour talking to George after the training was over and also felt this instant attraction (love bombing again) for this man.
We agreed that I would buy the dog and that I would leave her with George for two weeks of additional training every day. Then I would pick her up, and Sue and her son, “John,” would come to our home and work with Sheba for an entire day for about $250 per day. Sue wanted to come two days each week ”¦ for how long? I am not sure on that, I think as long as my money held out.
X-rays
Well, “Bob,” the guy who had sold Sheba to me, said he had “forgotten” to get her hips x-rayed while she was staying at George’s kennel. No big deal Sue assured me, that the dog had good hips. I was so in love with Sheba by that time, and with the fact that she was “really cheap” by protection dog standards, I paid for her before getting the hips x-rayed. Bob assured me he would reimburse me for the vet x-rays. I took the dog home from George’s house and put her in a crate inside the house to let her get used to the house and the sounds and smells. She was let out of the crate only on a leash for several days, and she would go from room to room with one of us holding loosely on the end of the leash, sniffing for my “stash” of drugs. She was working hard.
Well, I finally got an appointment with my vet to have her hips X rayed and was totally dumbfounded when they were bad. I broke down crying in the vet’s office. Her hips are so bad on both sides that there is no way in which she can be helped. She is not a candidate for adoption, as she is like a loaded gun—only an experienced handler can handle her.
Dogs that are used for “personal protection” or for “police work” are bred to be ADHD, to be fearless. Sheba, as a Dutch Shepherd, was like an ADHD teenager on crack! She wanted to work and she wanted to bite the decoy. She was everything I could have wanted in a protection dog—including obedience and desire to please—but she was not a “pet” dog.
When I raised Border Collies I would never sell a pup as a “pet,” because high-energy “ADHD” breeds of dogs must have a job to do or they become neurotic. They must be continually exercised whether it is herding sheep or doing an agility course or hunting for lost people or decaying bodies. They must have a job and they can’t do it with bilaterally hip dysplasia.
Set up
I was set up for a patsy by a group of con people working together. Oh, by the way, Sheba did not even belong to “Bob,” the man who sold her to me. The original owner had placed her with Bob for sale on commission. Sort of feeling “something” in my gut about the dog when I got her home, I saw the old rabies tag and called the vet clinic to ask about the dog. Of course they knew Sheba and her owner, and gave me his name and telephone number. He was very surprised that the dog had been sold a month before because Bob had not even telephoned him to let him know that she had been sold, much less sent the money to the man in Mississippi.
This man, “Bud” had been so pleased, though, that Sheba was in a good home, that he was not even going to sue Bob for not sending him his share of the sale price.
After the initial phone call where I informed Bob that Sheba’s hips were bad and he assured me that he would pay me for the purchase price of the dog and the training I had invested in her, I have not heard from him, not one word. I don’t expect to hear from him either.
The female trainer, Sue, has sent me the advice that I should “be tender with Bob as he really is a good guy because she has seen him cry when a dog got hurt.” Sue has written a book on the psychology of dogs, and in her book she showed pictures of hip dysplasia X-rays and a picture of a normal X ray, yet when I sent her a scanned copy of Sheba’s X-rays she said, “Oh, I can’t tell if that is dysplasia or not without seeing the original X-ray.I wonder what made her think that X-ray scan might be normal? What vet school she graduated from? What about the letter I have from my veterinary surgeon who says the dog has hip dysplasia on both sides and due to her temperament and training should be put down?
Then it started to dawn on me, the way the scam went down. Bob got a dog that he probably knew had bad hips or he wouldn’t have sold it for “peanuts,” since it already had certifications for drug detection, and had protection training and obedience training as well ”¦ so Sue love bombed me and found me the “perfect” dog ”¦ CHEAP! Then I went to George’s place and watched the dog work and I was HOOKED. So George, knowing or not that her hips were bad, got two weeks work as a trainer. Then when I brought her home, Sue and her son John got two days work as well.
I have no doubt that I will get a judgment in court for the price of the dog, for boarding her and for the price of her training as well. But I also know that the likelihood of me actually COLLECTING a dime are between zero and none.
Too good to be true
When a deal is “too good to be true” it usually is. Unfortunately, I am left the one crying my eyes out for a dog that I have already become attached to, who has done nothing wrong except be born with bad legs and be so driven to work that she is not “adoptable” as a pet, but yet is unable to work either. No there isn’t anything that can be done for her hips surgically or to prolong her life. If there were it would be done. Her former owner is quite wealthy and offered to fund anything that might help her. There isn’t anything that can be done for the dog.
So we need to be on our guard in any business deal we make, we need to use caution and watch for RED FLAGS. In hind sight, I can see that Sue “love bombed” me and played up to my ego and held out the “carrot” of a deal I couldn’t refuse—the perfect dog and CHEAP. When her buddy in Georgia disappointed me, she came to my rescue and found just the dog for me!
Well, I have again paid the tuition at the University of Hard Knox for some post-doctoral studies. In addition to my lightened pocketbook, I also have a broken heart for a dog I have come to love already. I don’t know where the following story came from, but it made me weep. Right now I’m not sure which feels the best—weeping or cussin’.
God summoned the beast from the field and He said:
“Behold man is created in My image, Therefore adore him. You shall protect him in the wilderness,
shepherd his flocks, and watch over his children, accompany him wherever he may go, even into civilization.
You shall be his companion, his ally, his slave.
To do these things, I endow you with the instincts uncommon to other beasts; faithfulness, devotion, and
understanding, surpassing those of man himself. Lest it impair your courage, you shall never foresee your death.
Lest it impair your loyalty, you shall be blind to the faults of man. Lest it impair your understanding you are denied the power of words. Speak to your master only with your mind and through your honest eyes.
Walk by his side, sleep in his doorway, ward off his enemies, carry his burden, share his affections, love, and comfort him. And in return for this, man will fulfill your needs and wants, which will be only food, shelter and affection.
So be silent and be a friend to man. Guide him through the perils along the way to this land I have promised him. This shall be your destiny and immortality.”
The dog listened and was content.
Oxy:
Sigh. So sorry you have to worry about the potential of those unsavory characters who live around you maybe harming you. Your son is a different story…I do not blame you one bit for protecting yourself from him. I know you can never trust him.
Awwww, so sweet that the dog is sniffing everything! I got this cute mental picture of her just sniffing everyone and everything! Haha!! 🙂
OxDrover:
I just read your story and I feel for you. As you may recall I recently got taken in by a colleague I had come to consider a friend. In the aftermath of getting taken in, I keep beating myself up thinking “all the damned flags were waving in your face and you still let yourself get sucked in.” That and grappling with the feeling that it’s bad enough to feel like a fool, but it’s worse to feel like an old fool (the guy who screwed me over is 33). And of course we all know the last stanza of that tune “when the hell am I ever going to learn?”
Of course, I could probably get by my feelings a bit easier except for the fact that in a few weeks I have to serve on a panel for a week and a half with this cretin. The thought makes my stomach tie up in knots. Of course there’s no way I have to get out of this, so I guess I’ll function in disaster and finish in style – the nice handshake, the so good to see yous etc. Personally, it all makes my skin crawl.
Oxy,
What a scam… Everything can be turned into a scam by spaths, isn’t it?
I do know the puppy is in the best loving hands with you though and at least she has the training, so she does protect you. I’ll wish the best for you and her.
I see G1S argument for reporting, but in this particular case I also see yours. Yes, Sue was used for a scam, but she wasn’t abused or kept in a way that was against animal wellfare laws (in so far you know it). If you could report animal abuse it wouldn’t be just a civil matter. But it doesn’t seem from your story that’s the case. So, I can see how it would be pretty useless.
Give that puppy a hug from me!
Oxy,
I am so sorry that this has happened to you. You do however always seem to look on the brighter side of situations. I admire this beautiful quality few hold.
As many businesses are, the dog business can be so filled with crooks and con-artists. They are mixed in with the legitimate dog breeders, trainers etc and you really can get confused and not able to see as clearly as you normally would. Integrity seems to be so low on the totem pole, if even on the totem pole at all!
I am concerned about your predicament at home. I hope Sheba will have a divine intervention of healing on her hips!
The “P” that was in my life is in this guard dog training/breeding/selling business…( he does illegal dog fighting and steriods too)…he also has worked with the police K9 unit as a cover to his scheming. (so he says) … He is from Georgia, where I am from but lives in Texas. He works with dog people all over the world and of course across our country. He has a Youtube channel of him working dogs and he loves getting in with the well known/important people in the dog world. I am saying this information so that if you need further information on avoiding a true psychopathic con-artist, I would be happy to reveal that to you privately..(Just in case you were thinking of another dog)..I know he works/sells etc all types of dogs from presas, pits, rots, shepherds etc etc..(dutch shepherds too) .. He always would try to scare me with the attack dogs…and it did scare me…
You are in my thoughts and I thank you for sharing this story.
Oxy
((HUGS)) to you. Like Skylar said, I feel confident that you’ll win from this “lesson” in the end. Something really good will come out of it.
A protection dog was a brilliant idea.
Sky,
Wow, interesting near con, on the trees. Some men came and bought up a bunch of the timber on my mom’s property. She made a small fortune, but not $1000 per tree. Maybe you can call others to come bid on what you have.
Athena
Ox I am sorry things didnt work out for you as you had wished. Sound,s to me like you still won with a new best friend named Sheba.. I have to disagree with you on one point however, your killer dog can be your pet.. My two wiener dog’s would chew your toes off if you tried to harm me and they are my PETS..
Oxy, you need to do what is best for you. I understand and respect your argument. If that is what works for you, then I would assume you are settled with what happened.
As I said earlier, I am trained in seeing these things and acting on them, whether that is a report or something else. It would never sit well with me to just accept something of this magnitude and let it go. I don’t have to pour my life and soul into something, but closure FOR ME would be making a report to someone. Then, I would let it go and let God take things from there. But that’s me.
I know that with me, the many times that I have remained silent on things was due to my not being very far along in my recovery as an adult child. There was a lot of shame involved. There was the belief that this happened only to me and somehow, I deserved it.
We are taught in recovery to break “the no-talk rule.” Silence enables. Silence feeds shame. Breaking the silence and talking empowers the victims and disempowers the perps.
It was only after that I started breaking the no-talk rule that I started finding out that the people who had walked all over me had done it to others. My speaking up helped the other victims to realize that they weren’t alone. Healing occurred on several levels and for multiple people. For me, that was exciting.
I also learned that the perps already had bad reputations. Of course, nice girls wouldn’t have know that because this nice girl still believed that everybody was born good and smiles on their faces meant they had smiles in their hearts and pure motives. Am I a gossip? No. Do I vet people? I try to, at least in some way.
I wasn’t good at first at breaking the no talk rule. Shame is such a strong master.
I needed to learn how to break the silence. It didn’t come easy at first and there was a stage when the anger and hurt that were so pent up that when they finally did come out, they came out in a blast. Not good. Not my finest moments, but it was progress albeit not perfection.
Case in point. I wrote what I thought was a sweet, little slice-of-life thing on my FB this morning about my son and his friends being home and how my cat reacted. Nothing profound. Just a cute little story.
My 1st cousin posted a really obnoxious, vulger/crude story about his pets as a response. I was shocked that he did that and angry. Why did he do that? What is wrong with him? Absolutely, it was a put down and he was mocking me big time.
I sat with it a while. Lots of possibilities went through my mind. I didn’t give in to my knee-jerk reactions.
Now, prior to recovery, I would have been so shamed (because that was what he was doing, shaming me) that I would have taken down my post. Instead, I decided to let his comments stay up a while because it didn’t reflect badly on me. It made him look like a total a-h*le. And, if any of my friends had any doubts about the sh!t my family is capable of dumping on each other, this was a good example of what they can do.
I finally decided to delete his post with no explanation from me. If he wants to know why, he can write to me and ask. I doubt he will. He’s bright enough to figure out why I did what I did.
I deleted his post because I decided that I have the right to write whatever I want on my FB. If he doesn’t like what I write, then either he doesn’t need to comment (he can move on to something else) or he can stop being FB friends with me if reading my posts are getting to him that much. It’s his issue, not mine.
I deleted his post because I have the right to decide what I want people to read on my FB. His post was unacceptable. It’s history.
I also deleted the post because somebody from another group I belong to sent me something the other day in encouragement. She said, “Don’t hide. Show pride.” It’s a cute little story about my cat. Deal with it, but don’t rub crap in my face because you don’t like it.
I don’t care anymore. If people don’t like what I have to say, then they don’t. Life goes on. I digress.
As far as reporting an indicent to somebody goes, it doesn’t need to be something so formal as a police report.
I have no idea what is available in your area or with guard dogs in general, but a person could always write a letter to the SPCA, the Better Business Bureau, or some group that would know these people that might help expose them.
Then, I’d let go and let God.
As I said, I certainly can see your point of view. I’m simply in a different place and am a different person.
G1S,
WHO would you report this to? The police are not interested, it is a CIVIL, not a criminal matter.
I did report it to the original owner since in effect she was a stolen dog.
I did report it to the original trainer.
I did report it to LF.
So who else pray tell should I report this scam to?
Matt, thank you darling! Yes, there is no fool like an old fool! LOL
For a couple of weeks I was alternately crying and cussin’ and mostly cussin’ at MYSELF for being sucked in. Actually the second day that “Sue” and her son were here working with son D and Sheba and me (I was mainly watching since I am still in a leg cast) as I sat there talking to “sue” I sort of had this thought about LOVE BOMB from her, and I brushed it aside.
Looking at the situation LOGICALLY THOUGH, I got what I think I needed in the way of a dog, and I needed it NOW and I got that FOR NOW. I have done an exhaustive search for other dogs and there are just not ones available within 100s of miles of me, and at prices that are “reasonable” for what I want and need. I do not want a “sport” dog, as in “battle” those dogs “Ike and run” and that is the last place you want a dog to “Ike and run”
While she is a “pet” for me and son D, she is NOT a dog that would be a reasonable “pet” for someone who is NOT AN EXPERIENCED DOG HANDLER. She is essentially a “loaded gun” and in the wrong (inexperienced) hands could be a DANGEROUS animal. The reason she was for sale in the first place is the man who originally owned her and had paid over $5,000 for her to be professionally trained could not handle her even with a prong collar and “handler lessons.” These dogs are like German Shepherds on CRACK!
Alivetoday, thank you, I will at some point in time need a replacement dog for Sheba, so if you would go to my e mail addy that is located on the “love fraud authors” link and let me know his name I would appreciate it. I realize that in the dog business and the horse business and lots of other businesses there is fraud and cons. I just let my impatience to get a dog and my emotions get in the way of sound business judgment, BUT that said, I do have a dog NOW and NOW is when I think I need one with Patrick’s parole coming up. Plus, with our rural area being invaded by thousands of migrant people drilling in the Fayetteville Shale Natural gas grounds all around me, crime has gone up in general and we’ve had quite a bit of theft around here as well.
At least with the dog now I can lay my head down to sleep at night and not worry about someone sneaking into the house.
Ox-I’m so sorry about Sheba. She sounds really amazing. Enjoy the time you have with her and I’m sorry you got scammed. My German Shepherd is laying on my feet on the couch right now.