By Ox Drover
In Part I we looked at what grief is and what “stages” we may pass through when we lose something or someone of great importance to us. We saw that grief can be “legitimate,” in which others “support us” by validating that we have a reason to be sad over the loss. Yet, there can be “disenfranchised” grief, grief that others do not view as “legitimate” reasons for grief, or shameful private grief that we cannot share.
In their attempts to “help” us, many people make fumbling attempts to “cheer us up” or to trivialize our pain, or attach “reasonable” time limits to how long we are able to grieve, which disenfranchises our pain.
Since most people view “grief” as equal to “Sadness,” the other stages of grief, which include Denial, Anger, Bargaining, and Acceptance, are not necessarily seen as parts of “grief processing.” Especially the stages of anger and bargaining may make the grieving person appear to be “crazy” to observers.
The sudden and irrational angry outbursts that we experience are just as much a part of our processing our grief as a crying bout is. Yet, this scares away and shoves away friends and would-be support, because they don’t understand the grieving process or why we would be so angry.
The bargaining stage, in which we may try to stop the pain by making deals with either God or the devil himself, is also another stage not understood by many of our family and friends, or the public in general. I think this is the stage that many victims of psychopaths are in when they go back again to an abusive relationship. “The devil you know is less scary than the devil you don’t know.”
Processing the roller coaster of feelings
Our grief over the losses of our deeply felt relationships with the psychopaths in our lives is just as valid and just as real as any other grief over any other important loss. Accepting that our grief is real to us, and that is all that matters, is our first task. Our pain is real; our pain is valid. We have a right to feel our pain. To experience the grief is our right! To express that pain without being devalued or disenfranchised is also our right.
Sometimes there is no one else who can or will validate that our pain is genuine, real and our right. In fact, many times others in our lives trivialize our pain, or emotions, or try to make us appear “crazy” for feeling as we do, for hurting, or even deny that any loss occurred. We must validate our own loss, our own pain, sometimes without the outside support, without the supportive presence of empathetic others. In a state of acute grief and pain, this is a difficult thing for us to accomplish.
Understanding the “roller coaster” nature of grief, the rapid cycling of one “stage” to another and back again, sometimes in a matter of minutes or hours, can keep us confused, and those in our environment confused, about whether we are “sane” or not! This rapid cycling of emotions, “okay” one moment, wildly crying the next, or angry and striking out, or trying to find some way to stop the pain by healing the relationship we lost, literally making a bargain with the “devil” psychopath, is the “normal” course of processing our grief and pain.
How long will this go on?
Until it is over.
Though there are trends in grief processing, each of us is an individual who will process through the grief at our own rate, in our own time and our own way. There are several things that will affect the “time line” in grief processing. The first thing, of course, is the depth of the loss. How much did this loss mean to you? How big was the loss?
Another thing that will impact the amount of time needed to process grief is having had prior experiences with grief that were positively resolved into acceptance. We learn how to process grief just like we learn to walk, a little bit at a time, and by practice. A child may learn to grieve over a loss of a beloved pet, yet some parents deprive this child of this learning exercise in the mistaken belief that they are “cheering up” the child when the day after the beloved puppy dies, the parents run out and buy Junior another puppy. Depriving a child of valid grief, the valuable learning experience of grieving, is not arming that child for later life which will be filled with losses in one form or another. So, the effects, either positive or negative, you have had with experiencing grief will effect how you process grief in the future.
Knowing what to expect in the grief process, and being able to name it, will affect the length of grieving. Though I professionally “knew” about grief and the processes we go through in resolving this emotional roller coaster, I was not “immune” to the feelings by my knowing. We cannot intellectually go around our pain, under it, or over it, we must go through the pain of the grief. There are no “short cuts.”
Multiple losses
The number of other losses that happen at the same time will affect how long the processing of grief lasts. Sometimes there are so many losses in a relationship with a psychopath that grieving for all of the losses at the same time is impossible. Because of the magnitude of grieving for all the losses at once, sometimes we are forced to put some losses on the back burner, so to speak, to deal with later. In my own experience, I found dealing with them individually for the most part was easier for me to handle than to try to lump them all together into one huge mass of loss which seemed too big and daunting to even tackle.
Because I dealt with them one at a time, it seemed to me the grieving over one thing or another went on for “decades.” As soon as I got one thing resolved, I had to tackle another one. This was very tiring and discouraging for me at times, but the burdens slowly lifted, and it seemed to me that the grief over each succeeding loss was less painful than the previous ones, that my experiences had made it easier for me to process, and quicker.
Validation
How much support we getand how we are validated affects the time needed to process the grief of our losses. When we are disenfranchised, or our grief is devalued or trivialized, we spend our time trying to validate the grief rather than resolving it. We try to “prove” to others that our grief is real.
Sometimes even well intentioned people who are trying to support and comfort us say the absolutely wrong thing, such as, “I know how you feel,” or, “It was meant to be,” or, “You will be okay,” at a time when we know they do not know how we feel, and that we feel we will never be okay again, and how could it be “meant” for us to hurt like this!?! We may fly into an emotional rage of pain and anguish.
How long? As long as it takes, without artificial limits from others like, “You should be over this now and move on with your life.” Also without artificial limits and time lines imposed by ourselves. “It’s been over a year now, I should be dating already.” Distracting yourself from the grief of one loss with another “new puppy” is not going to allow complete resolution of the first loss. Reaching the “acceptance” stage at one point, may not be staying there—remember the “roller coaster.” Giving yourself time to reach and remain in the acceptance stage for a time of peace, calm and quiet, is important. Don’t try to rush things!
10 Tips to support yourself in grieving:
- Listen—listen to your own pain, thoughts and feelings.
- Validate those feelings—yes they are real and I have a right to feel that way.
- Be kind to yourself—take time for yourself without guilt, you deserve it.
- Don’t put artificial time limits on your grief—it lasts as long as it does.
- Do know that though you don’t feel like it this minute—you will be okay.
- Reach out for support from others—talk about your pain to others who will listen.
- Come to Lovefraud and read and learn and receive support and validation.
- Distance yourself from stressful situations (and people) as much as possible.
- Decrease and delay voluntary and unnecessary changes in your life, if possible.
- Forgive yourself—you deserve it!
sky, no, you are not the only one who was not bothered. Your thinking is just fine!… very good as far ad I’m concerned, I love your posts.
Annie1961:
Matt I second that!
May I add, do not appear to be vindictive in any actions and write a formal letter to him advising him the account was closed…..and the funds have been moved due to his lack of cooperation in informing you of checks written against the account and you being the one who continued to be in charge of the bills.
Get your name off all his accounts and separate bills accordingly.
Phone, cell, utilities, etc…if you plan on keeping something…..get it in your name NOW!
He will run up cc’s and you won’t be able to pay. I suggest paying only the min. on all revolving accounts to ‘save’ your funds for the drag out process that is ahead! maybe ask for credit line increases on YOUR accounts. And don’t tell creditors about any divorce just yet…..when they hear this….you will soon get the cancellation notices…
The s cancelled all my cc’s….so I stopped paying his…..who won here? I was the one with the credit….about a year prior, I switched out all my cc’ds out of his wallet to ones in his name…..WE started using his cards…..I knew something was up……so I went proactive and took him off all my cards….
He landed up with that debt! Because he muddied up all the waters……the judge ordered us both to keep our own debt.
Also look into the tax consequences of retaining any retirement accounts…..they can be hefty! (this is my guess why he so freely said YOU can have them).
The possesion comment from Matt is soooooo true……
Remove any and all valuables and store off site…bury them if you have too…..and don’t tell anyone where they are located!
My ex (AND I USE “MY” ONLY FOR DIFFERENTIATION) stole everything each time I would go into the hospital for treatment…..I went right back into where he stayed, when he was not home and switched it all out……slowely over time….
He took all MY wine collection…..I purchased cheap shit and switched it out…..I replaced the kids snowboards with cheap broken ones from a thrift shop……He took all the business records and I took digi/dated pics of them or would photo copy them….if I had the time….
He took all the art and jewelry….I took it back….he took the jet ski…..I took it back…..(THAT WAS HILARIOUS…..I had to launch it off the trailer he had it stored on in a snowstorm and put it on my trailer) and pack it away…….anything of value…..I got rid of….
It wasn’t that I wanted it all….It was that I KNEW if he had it….I wouldn’t EVER see it again!
He even took my car……I asked nicely for him to return it….several times…..he stalled for months….SO….again….another snow storm….another recon mission! I got my car back and changed the locks and installed a new alarm system on it…..
I had my garage door codes changed, because he wouldnt’t turn over my openers….
I changed all locks and deadbolts MYSELF…(not hard) and Installed security cameras around the property.
I don’t recall if you or he is in the home….but if you are, secure ALL windows with window locks….wallmart/home depot has them…cheap.
If he has the house, undue a small bathroom or laundry room window, just enough so if you had to get in to collect possesions…..you could. Do a window that he would never touch and is easily accesable from the outside. I just crawled through a spare bedroom window….he even piled wood up as to provide me a ladder into MY home! He changed the locks on MY property…..and then accused me of doing that….projection!
You also need to re-write a will….seal it up and give it to someone you trust (completely) and tell them to keep it sealed. Unless you pass.
If he has ANY power of attorney limited or broad…..you MUST revoke those formally…..it’s easy….do it through the county recorders office. If you are not sure….do a search in any county you MAY have signed one in.
This is important….he could mutilate you with a POA!
Duplicate ALL keys….and if you have access to his keyring…duplicate his too…..
Store all keys again….off site…..DO NOT TELL ANYONE.
The people you trust now….you may not be able to trust later….(most often).
They tend to have safety box keys YOU DIDN”T EVEN KNOW ABOUT right on the key ring…..
If you have any old copies of his credit reports (KEEP THEM). You said you had just refinanced…..contact the title company and go down and ask for a complet copy of your file….It will contain a credit report for you both…..
THEN…ask your attorney to demand a credit report ran.on him….(you can run your own)
Ask for a credit fraud alert to be placed on your credit WITH ALL 3 AGENCIES.
They will alert you if anyone tries to tamper with your credit….another trick of paving the way divorcees.
THis will tell you a lot of what he has been ‘up to’ in the time since refi.
Photo copy all credit cards or wallet contents and make sure you know and have written down all combinations to anything.
Get your name off all credit cards joint. or his name off yours.
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CREDIT IN YOUR NAME….if not start applying….you will need this!
things you may want to invest in……while your still legally married.
Digi audible recorder
Digital camera
A bolt cutter.
Okay….Ive probably sent your head spinning….It’s about being proactive, counter controlling and STEALTH!!!
Good luck!
thanks sc, you’re awesome.
libelle, I know your post wasn’t to me, but I read it anyway! HA HA, anyway, I think you gave some great advice, I agree about moving all the crazy person’s stuff out of the house, pack it up, don’t look at it. I still can’t believe your father referred to you in that way to the waitress (is that right? at the club)… p*sses me off just to think about it.
Shabby, thanks! Yea, and she afterwards asked me for my age! (I told her that I was the Daughter and not his Grandchild, so she could calaculate for herself). I KNOW I could pass for his somewhat older grandchild, so no big deal, it did not touch me at all.
The far more important thing was the discovery that HE HAS NO FRIENDS! It kind of reinforced me as this gentleman of whom father has a high opinion seems to have seen through my father and knowing him for what he is by referring to me “You do not need a handicap, you got your father”). That was my Towanda-moment.
Skylar: heads are round so thoughts can move in ANY direction! Your thinking is just perfect! That is one of the things my boss is constantly telling me: Think critically! (but beware if you do NOT come to MY conclusion!!) I LOVE IT!! That was my discovery of him being at least a great N!!!
Dear Sweet Gem,
I read your post and I completely understand your upset, and your anger–and believe me I got FLOGGEd here once, and i left another blog because there was all the tit-for-tat crap, and mostly from the managers. When I was RAW it hurt me to be flogged by another blogger, because the very THOUGHT of someone being angry at me for something I said triggered me. BUT NOT NOW, I realize that people here who lay into me are NOT my problem and I will not STOOP to even notice them. I will not REPLY to them or “defend” myself because when people act like that, they are not someone I care about.
It isn’t my place to “chastise” them—I just hit the “report abuse comment” button and give it into Donna’s able hands.
The only people I “chastise” are with the “cyber skillet” and it is out of LOVE and concern, not out of even justifiable anger. I agree that “standing up” for ourselves is what we should do, but on LF I would rather just “ignore” (go NC if you will) inappropriate behavior—-and if you will notice, the ones that are inappropriate don’t like to be IGNORED. As Skylar said in another thread, “give them enough rope and they hang themselves.”
I understand it is better if posters who are inappropriate are not here, but it is DONNA’s site and although I don’t always agree with her, she is the final judge, and I can’t fault her for that, and in the main, I DO agree with Donna’s policies.
Donna wants peace, respect and appropriate behavior here and I think she does an OUTSTANDING job.
Sometimes people are just wounded and strike out at people, and sometimes people who are intending to cause trouble come here—we had some Ps on a P-blog site (yes, there are several) came here and someone actually found where they were bragging about coming here and causing trouble. YEP!!! For real. For the most part, we DO give people the benefit of the doubt here. Donna also communicates privately with people who are “troublesome” and sees if she can set some boundaries.
BTW, I ahve not been able to get Lily’s cell phone to answer, but I am assuming she is out of the hospital at this time. Most lilkely in a rehabilitation center as she was NOT able to go home by herself. I will let you guys know if I find out anything else as quickly as I do. Please keep her in your prayers.
((((Gem)))) Thanks sweetie! Love Oxy
Erin, that post is priceless!
Seriously Erin, it really is.
HEy ya’ll….
In the best interest of the Lf community as a whole….. LF members and readers alike…
Once again….
I CAST MY VOTE FOR -GREY ROCK!!!
Erin, Grey rock it is!”And a Rock feels no pain, and an Island never cries!” {Simon and garfunkel.}
By the way, have you heard the saying,”All alone, like a shag on a Rock?” This does not mean having sex on a rock,LOL,{sounds painful!}. A Shag is the scottish slang name for a cormorant, a seabird. It is black, and has a long, thin neck, and it holds its black wings outstretched to dry, as it stands on the rock. The chinese fishermen put metal rings around their necks, so that when the shag catches a fish for them, it cant swallow it. When its master has all the fish he needs, the ring is removed, and the bird is fed all it can eat.! Love and {{HUGS}}} gem.XXX