By Ox Drover
In Part I we looked at what grief is and what “stages” we may pass through when we lose something or someone of great importance to us. We saw that grief can be “legitimate,” in which others “support us” by validating that we have a reason to be sad over the loss. Yet, there can be “disenfranchised” grief, grief that others do not view as “legitimate” reasons for grief, or shameful private grief that we cannot share.
In their attempts to “help” us, many people make fumbling attempts to “cheer us up” or to trivialize our pain, or attach “reasonable” time limits to how long we are able to grieve, which disenfranchises our pain.
Since most people view “grief” as equal to “Sadness,” the other stages of grief, which include Denial, Anger, Bargaining, and Acceptance, are not necessarily seen as parts of “grief processing.” Especially the stages of anger and bargaining may make the grieving person appear to be “crazy” to observers.
The sudden and irrational angry outbursts that we experience are just as much a part of our processing our grief as a crying bout is. Yet, this scares away and shoves away friends and would-be support, because they don’t understand the grieving process or why we would be so angry.
The bargaining stage, in which we may try to stop the pain by making deals with either God or the devil himself, is also another stage not understood by many of our family and friends, or the public in general. I think this is the stage that many victims of psychopaths are in when they go back again to an abusive relationship. “The devil you know is less scary than the devil you don’t know.”
Processing the roller coaster of feelings
Our grief over the losses of our deeply felt relationships with the psychopaths in our lives is just as valid and just as real as any other grief over any other important loss. Accepting that our grief is real to us, and that is all that matters, is our first task. Our pain is real; our pain is valid. We have a right to feel our pain. To experience the grief is our right! To express that pain without being devalued or disenfranchised is also our right.
Sometimes there is no one else who can or will validate that our pain is genuine, real and our right. In fact, many times others in our lives trivialize our pain, or emotions, or try to make us appear “crazy” for feeling as we do, for hurting, or even deny that any loss occurred. We must validate our own loss, our own pain, sometimes without the outside support, without the supportive presence of empathetic others. In a state of acute grief and pain, this is a difficult thing for us to accomplish.
Understanding the “roller coaster” nature of grief, the rapid cycling of one “stage” to another and back again, sometimes in a matter of minutes or hours, can keep us confused, and those in our environment confused, about whether we are “sane” or not! This rapid cycling of emotions, “okay” one moment, wildly crying the next, or angry and striking out, or trying to find some way to stop the pain by healing the relationship we lost, literally making a bargain with the “devil” psychopath, is the “normal” course of processing our grief and pain.
How long will this go on?
Until it is over.
Though there are trends in grief processing, each of us is an individual who will process through the grief at our own rate, in our own time and our own way. There are several things that will affect the “time line” in grief processing. The first thing, of course, is the depth of the loss. How much did this loss mean to you? How big was the loss?
Another thing that will impact the amount of time needed to process grief is having had prior experiences with grief that were positively resolved into acceptance. We learn how to process grief just like we learn to walk, a little bit at a time, and by practice. A child may learn to grieve over a loss of a beloved pet, yet some parents deprive this child of this learning exercise in the mistaken belief that they are “cheering up” the child when the day after the beloved puppy dies, the parents run out and buy Junior another puppy. Depriving a child of valid grief, the valuable learning experience of grieving, is not arming that child for later life which will be filled with losses in one form or another. So, the effects, either positive or negative, you have had with experiencing grief will effect how you process grief in the future.
Knowing what to expect in the grief process, and being able to name it, will affect the length of grieving. Though I professionally “knew” about grief and the processes we go through in resolving this emotional roller coaster, I was not “immune” to the feelings by my knowing. We cannot intellectually go around our pain, under it, or over it, we must go through the pain of the grief. There are no “short cuts.”
Multiple losses
The number of other losses that happen at the same time will affect how long the processing of grief lasts. Sometimes there are so many losses in a relationship with a psychopath that grieving for all of the losses at the same time is impossible. Because of the magnitude of grieving for all the losses at once, sometimes we are forced to put some losses on the back burner, so to speak, to deal with later. In my own experience, I found dealing with them individually for the most part was easier for me to handle than to try to lump them all together into one huge mass of loss which seemed too big and daunting to even tackle.
Because I dealt with them one at a time, it seemed to me the grieving over one thing or another went on for “decades.” As soon as I got one thing resolved, I had to tackle another one. This was very tiring and discouraging for me at times, but the burdens slowly lifted, and it seemed to me that the grief over each succeeding loss was less painful than the previous ones, that my experiences had made it easier for me to process, and quicker.
Validation
How much support we getand how we are validated affects the time needed to process the grief of our losses. When we are disenfranchised, or our grief is devalued or trivialized, we spend our time trying to validate the grief rather than resolving it. We try to “prove” to others that our grief is real.
Sometimes even well intentioned people who are trying to support and comfort us say the absolutely wrong thing, such as, “I know how you feel,” or, “It was meant to be,” or, “You will be okay,” at a time when we know they do not know how we feel, and that we feel we will never be okay again, and how could it be “meant” for us to hurt like this!?! We may fly into an emotional rage of pain and anguish.
How long? As long as it takes, without artificial limits from others like, “You should be over this now and move on with your life.” Also without artificial limits and time lines imposed by ourselves. “It’s been over a year now, I should be dating already.” Distracting yourself from the grief of one loss with another “new puppy” is not going to allow complete resolution of the first loss. Reaching the “acceptance” stage at one point, may not be staying there—remember the “roller coaster.” Giving yourself time to reach and remain in the acceptance stage for a time of peace, calm and quiet, is important. Don’t try to rush things!
10 Tips to support yourself in grieving:
- Listen—listen to your own pain, thoughts and feelings.
- Validate those feelings—yes they are real and I have a right to feel that way.
- Be kind to yourself—take time for yourself without guilt, you deserve it.
- Don’t put artificial time limits on your grief—it lasts as long as it does.
- Do know that though you don’t feel like it this minute—you will be okay.
- Reach out for support from others—talk about your pain to others who will listen.
- Come to Lovefraud and read and learn and receive support and validation.
- Distance yourself from stressful situations (and people) as much as possible.
- Decrease and delay voluntary and unnecessary changes in your life, if possible.
- Forgive yourself—you deserve it!
And I don’t even drink coffee!
🙂
Thanks, Oxy, for the update on Lily. Will be keeping her in my thoughts and prayers.
So, I’ve been feeling anxious lately, and I think part of it is because I still have no idea about the level of the smear campaign being waged against me. But I’ve also been thinking about another theory, which might sound totally wacked, but I figure maybe I can share it here. The most striking thing I’ve noticed about all of the genuine posters who comment on this site is how compassionate, self-reflective, nurturing and giving they are. These are not qualities of the ego. My religious upbringing was very very eclectic, so my beliefs don’t fit into any particular category, but what I think is that we all do have a spirit or soul or whatever you want to call it. And that is where true goodness comes from. Because of our psychic structure as we live and make our way on this planet, in this reality, we have an ego that has a job that is supposed to help the soul figure out what’s going on in physical reality. But when egos get separated from their spirit, they become sociopathic. We live in a world, it seems to me, where a lot of people have become “lost.” Some of us, when we become lost, simply become depressed or self-critical, maybe easy targets or whatever, rather than sociopathic. But an unguided ego, IMHO, is utterly narcissistic and unable to feel empathy inherently. It has to learn these things.
In order to have the best connection with our soul, we have to put our ego in its proper place. It needs to take a back seat. And the ego that’s been in control panics when we try to do this. It’s afraid it needs to be in control for survival. So, as we work through our healing process from being targeted, which, it seems to me, involves a great deal of soul-searching and making a Herculean effort to reach through and connect firmly to our True Selves, we may trigger the ego. And we’ll feel anxious. But if we feel compassion for our ego and at the same time, tell it to calm down, that everything’s going to be okay and we keep on in our quest to be strong and connected, we might be able to have an easier time moving forward.
Just some thoughts. I don’t know if they’ll make any sense to anyone else, but I feel like I can speak my mind in this nonjudgmental environment. And I think one thing we all want to do, which speaks well of us, is help each other in any way we can, with whatever thoughts we might have about what happened to us and why.
Dear Skippy,
I wouldn’t describe it in exactly those same words, but I think your ideas and mine are somewhat along the same path.
I think yes, we do have a spiritual aspect, and an ego, and OUR egos are NOT protective enough of US, we start protecting or giving TOO much to others, they, on the other hand are TAKING energy from us, and everyone around them and giving nothing back.
One of the FIRST things I sort of spotted about a particular poster here a few months back is that they were ALL about their pain, wanting comfort and advice, etc. and NEVER once, reached out to console anyone else or to comfort anyone else.
My son and I were talking about this same subject the other day and he said to him it was like we are conduits, with positive energy flowing in and then flowing OUT again to others, and that the Ps are more like a FUNNEL with massive amounts flowing IN and little or nothing flowing out.
Sometimes I think also that WE are more like UPSIDE DOWN FUNNELS, and are giving OUT more than we take in, and you know what that means, eventually we RUN DRY!
So inistead of being a P and taking, taking and taking and giving little or none back, OR like an UPSIDE down funnel, giving out and giving out and takign in very little, we should be like a piece of pipe (conduit) that is the same size in and out, with energy flowing THROUGH. I really liked the way he described it as it made perfect sense.
We DO I think also need to feel compassion for ourselves, and I realized that I did NOT feel compassion for me, but only for others, now I am trying to take in energy, give out energy AND have compassion for myself if I am not “perfect”—-and who is?! LOL Well, only the Ns and the Ps are “perfect” of course—in their minds! ha ha
Excellent distinction and description, Oxy! I think your son is very right about the funnel/conduit analogy. I was having a hard time trying to figure out how to say it! Thanks!!
Yes, and the shame for Ps is that, while we are striving to find our balance and become a conduit, they aren’t because they don’t see any problem. So, as more and more of the upside-down funnels start to get their energy protected, as more and more people become educated about Ps and Ns, they’re going to run out of supply!
Dear Skippy,
I wish that were so! Unfortunately there is a “new sucker born every day” as P T. Barnham said. I wish we could educate each person for ever, but the problem is, each time there is a new child born, you have to start all over, so there isn’t a way to educate everyone and have it “stick for all time”—plus, there are just some people who will NEVER learn no matter what happens to them.
But, “if wishes were horses, beggers would ride…”
Oxy, don’t be so pessimistic!
We will succeed! That is our mission. Just ask Erin.
The internet will be our tool and we will shine a light on all the evil entitiies.
We will start a new organization: The Institute for the Eradication of Evil (IEE)!
Ok, i’m getting carried away, but I still have hope.
Sky,
That isn’t pessimism it is REALITY! Evil has been in the world since the get go the moment Satan walked into the garden of eden (whether you belive this as literal or not) and there have been Ps “forever” and will be Ps forever and they will harm others and con others forever, HOWEVER…that said…
We do the best we can, but we will never get rid of them completely. But, doing the best we can with the tools we have is all anyone can do. Mother Teresa didn’t get rid of poverty either, but she did the best she could with what she had, and that is all God or man requires us to do.
I am only one
I cannot do everything,
But I can do what one can do.
That is my mantra and setting a REALISTIC goal of doing all I (one) can do is less frustrating than setting a goal that is too high and never being able to even make a dent in it.
If I set a goal that is realistic I may not meet it every time, but I will make a dent in that reasonable goal.
I can’t save every person from pain, or salve every wound, but I will save those I can and salve the wounds I can. Just because I cant fix the entire world doesn’t mean I won’t accept responsibility for doing what I can for myself and giving back to others.
I’m just more careful who I give to any more, and don’t waste my energies “jousting at windmills” like I did in the past.
When I was 18 I thought I could change the whole world, now I am much less arrogant and much more realistic—FINALLY. LOL
Maybe we are on such a similar wavelength, even our crabby moods coincide! Just checked in after work, and it’s funny to see everyone’s posts about being out of sorts. I woke up remembering strange dream and then just had hardest time going in to work. Have had such a hard time getting over this cold or whatever it is, sure it’s emotional too but just feel totally exhausted! And as I drove to work, tried to practice gratitude but just felt like literally quitting all day, I just wanted to be home doing my art – doing it in a relaxed, happy way, doing what I’m good at. I did notice moon last night though and I do believe it has an influence on our moods, and now is the gradual transition from summer to fall, finally cooling down where I live and some leaves starting to turn. Everyday it’s more transition…last night after work I just made soup and watched movie. Tonight I’m not going out and will just lay low, maybe take a nice bubble bath with a good book. Sometimes I wish my kids would call more just to say hello (no requests for babysitting, etc.) They’re good kids – young working adults and have their own lives now. I realize my life has evolved to this point where it is up to me to make of it what I will or want – more decisions to make on the horizon.
But tonight is for letting the world go by – and watching the bubbles. Will check back to see how Lily is doing.
Persephone:
For being ‘crabby’ you sure have some good thoughts…..
I want to be crabby with YOU!
I too watched the moon last night….didn’t get a howl out……
But I had a familiar moment…..As i went out on my porch and looked up, I got the same feeling I had when I was in Paris looking out at the sky…..so I closed my eyes and visioned me back in Paris….
Maybe that was what made me sadder…..I knew I had to open my eyes…..HAH….now that’s looking at the glass half full…..NOT!
Enjoy the bubbles and relax, I am glad to hear your dong something for YOU!
XXOO
Thank you Oxy for two great posts. I have found them very helpful, particularly about disenfranchised grief. The pain we suffer is bad enough but when it is dismissed or has to be covered up makes it so much worse! and is often the thing that drives us to the point of craziness.
I have struggled recently with the discovery that a friend who I thought believed what had happened to me has recently been in touch with the P and the OW. I want to believe that she is trying to be ‘neutral’ but it has shaken me quite a lot. I thought that by him leaving him to join the OW in another country that I could be free but I still keep finding out things that hurt very much. I just do not know whether to trust this friend anymore, especially as there as there is a danger of her finding out I have reported his behaviour to the Immigration Dept of that country.
Am I now paranoid or should I give her the benefit of the doubt?? Personally, I suspect that the OW wanted me to find out to just to hurt me and uses people she can influence and manipulate. I just don’t know anymore. Can anyone give me some advice. The thought of another betrayal makes me shake all over and very depressed.
Swallow