By Ox Drover
In Part I we looked at what grief is and what “stages” we may pass through when we lose something or someone of great importance to us. We saw that grief can be “legitimate,” in which others “support us” by validating that we have a reason to be sad over the loss. Yet, there can be “disenfranchised” grief, grief that others do not view as “legitimate” reasons for grief, or shameful private grief that we cannot share.
In their attempts to “help” us, many people make fumbling attempts to “cheer us up” or to trivialize our pain, or attach “reasonable” time limits to how long we are able to grieve, which disenfranchises our pain.
Since most people view “grief” as equal to “Sadness,” the other stages of grief, which include Denial, Anger, Bargaining, and Acceptance, are not necessarily seen as parts of “grief processing.” Especially the stages of anger and bargaining may make the grieving person appear to be “crazy” to observers.
The sudden and irrational angry outbursts that we experience are just as much a part of our processing our grief as a crying bout is. Yet, this scares away and shoves away friends and would-be support, because they don’t understand the grieving process or why we would be so angry.
The bargaining stage, in which we may try to stop the pain by making deals with either God or the devil himself, is also another stage not understood by many of our family and friends, or the public in general. I think this is the stage that many victims of psychopaths are in when they go back again to an abusive relationship. “The devil you know is less scary than the devil you don’t know.”
Processing the roller coaster of feelings
Our grief over the losses of our deeply felt relationships with the psychopaths in our lives is just as valid and just as real as any other grief over any other important loss. Accepting that our grief is real to us, and that is all that matters, is our first task. Our pain is real; our pain is valid. We have a right to feel our pain. To experience the grief is our right! To express that pain without being devalued or disenfranchised is also our right.
Sometimes there is no one else who can or will validate that our pain is genuine, real and our right. In fact, many times others in our lives trivialize our pain, or emotions, or try to make us appear “crazy” for feeling as we do, for hurting, or even deny that any loss occurred. We must validate our own loss, our own pain, sometimes without the outside support, without the supportive presence of empathetic others. In a state of acute grief and pain, this is a difficult thing for us to accomplish.
Understanding the “roller coaster” nature of grief, the rapid cycling of one “stage” to another and back again, sometimes in a matter of minutes or hours, can keep us confused, and those in our environment confused, about whether we are “sane” or not! This rapid cycling of emotions, “okay” one moment, wildly crying the next, or angry and striking out, or trying to find some way to stop the pain by healing the relationship we lost, literally making a bargain with the “devil” psychopath, is the “normal” course of processing our grief and pain.
How long will this go on?
Until it is over.
Though there are trends in grief processing, each of us is an individual who will process through the grief at our own rate, in our own time and our own way. There are several things that will affect the “time line” in grief processing. The first thing, of course, is the depth of the loss. How much did this loss mean to you? How big was the loss?
Another thing that will impact the amount of time needed to process grief is having had prior experiences with grief that were positively resolved into acceptance. We learn how to process grief just like we learn to walk, a little bit at a time, and by practice. A child may learn to grieve over a loss of a beloved pet, yet some parents deprive this child of this learning exercise in the mistaken belief that they are “cheering up” the child when the day after the beloved puppy dies, the parents run out and buy Junior another puppy. Depriving a child of valid grief, the valuable learning experience of grieving, is not arming that child for later life which will be filled with losses in one form or another. So, the effects, either positive or negative, you have had with experiencing grief will effect how you process grief in the future.
Knowing what to expect in the grief process, and being able to name it, will affect the length of grieving. Though I professionally “knew” about grief and the processes we go through in resolving this emotional roller coaster, I was not “immune” to the feelings by my knowing. We cannot intellectually go around our pain, under it, or over it, we must go through the pain of the grief. There are no “short cuts.”
Multiple losses
The number of other losses that happen at the same time will affect how long the processing of grief lasts. Sometimes there are so many losses in a relationship with a psychopath that grieving for all of the losses at the same time is impossible. Because of the magnitude of grieving for all the losses at once, sometimes we are forced to put some losses on the back burner, so to speak, to deal with later. In my own experience, I found dealing with them individually for the most part was easier for me to handle than to try to lump them all together into one huge mass of loss which seemed too big and daunting to even tackle.
Because I dealt with them one at a time, it seemed to me the grieving over one thing or another went on for “decades.” As soon as I got one thing resolved, I had to tackle another one. This was very tiring and discouraging for me at times, but the burdens slowly lifted, and it seemed to me that the grief over each succeeding loss was less painful than the previous ones, that my experiences had made it easier for me to process, and quicker.
Validation
How much support we getand how we are validated affects the time needed to process the grief of our losses. When we are disenfranchised, or our grief is devalued or trivialized, we spend our time trying to validate the grief rather than resolving it. We try to “prove” to others that our grief is real.
Sometimes even well intentioned people who are trying to support and comfort us say the absolutely wrong thing, such as, “I know how you feel,” or, “It was meant to be,” or, “You will be okay,” at a time when we know they do not know how we feel, and that we feel we will never be okay again, and how could it be “meant” for us to hurt like this!?! We may fly into an emotional rage of pain and anguish.
How long? As long as it takes, without artificial limits from others like, “You should be over this now and move on with your life.” Also without artificial limits and time lines imposed by ourselves. “It’s been over a year now, I should be dating already.” Distracting yourself from the grief of one loss with another “new puppy” is not going to allow complete resolution of the first loss. Reaching the “acceptance” stage at one point, may not be staying there—remember the “roller coaster.” Giving yourself time to reach and remain in the acceptance stage for a time of peace, calm and quiet, is important. Don’t try to rush things!
10 Tips to support yourself in grieving:
- Listen—listen to your own pain, thoughts and feelings.
- Validate those feelings—yes they are real and I have a right to feel that way.
- Be kind to yourself—take time for yourself without guilt, you deserve it.
- Don’t put artificial time limits on your grief—it lasts as long as it does.
- Do know that though you don’t feel like it this minute—you will be okay.
- Reach out for support from others—talk about your pain to others who will listen.
- Come to Lovefraud and read and learn and receive support and validation.
- Distance yourself from stressful situations (and people) as much as possible.
- Decrease and delay voluntary and unnecessary changes in your life, if possible.
- Forgive yourself—you deserve it!
nic:
Congrats on the divorce.
I’ve got a different way of looking at your situation. S has not called in 3 weeks. To me that implies that he is losing interest in you and your child. This is a good thing.
You don’t need a S in your life. Your child does not need an S in her life. I still remember your battle with him to put your child in a car seat. That battle took place when your child was all of what? A year old?
Ask yourself — do I realistically want these battles for the next 18 years? I suspect you are going to have problems collecting child support from S. While I can appreciate that you need the money, this is one of those situations that the cost of the money may be too high. In your shoes I would pray that he loses interest in you both and moves on to fresh prey.
Dear Nic,
Welcome back!!!
Sweetie, you may have actually gotten to acceptance in the grief process, but NEW INJURIES from them will sometimes knock us back down into the anger stage, so when you are dealing with a grief that is STILL ALIVE AND KICKING it is more difficult (at first) to stay in a peaceful mode.
first, let’s look at the future (I’m pulling out my “crystal ball” here and setting it down next to my skillet)
1. He will continue to lie to you (well, didn’t have to use the crystall ball on that one did I? LOL)
2. He will never put your daughter’s best interest first (well, didn’t have to use the crystal lball for that one either!)
3. He isn’t going to pay any more child support than he is forced by the court with threat of jail to pay, and maybe nto then….gosh, still haven’t used the ball!
4. He isn’t going to change at all! What you have had problems with him in the past about, you will continue to have problems with him in the future about. Well, I’ll just put the ball up, since we are dealing with a psychopath we really don’t need a crystal ball to see into the future, do we?! LOL
There are several things I think you might want to think about. This “mistress” he is with has FOUR kids? That does NOT make her “prime meat on the dating market” does it? Especially with a guy like him that “really loves kids” ROTFLMAO
Plus, kids are expensive and unless she is wealthy, my guess is he won’t stay with her very long, which means he is out on his arse before too long cause she will catch him cheating eventually with another woman. Then he will find another victim.
So you can in my opinion expect him to continue on just like he has done in the past, DIFFERENT DAY, SAME OLD CHIT.
So, since you know what he will do in the future, just make up your mind that since you CANNOT DO A DARNED THING TO CHANGE IT, you will ACCEPT it and get on with YOUR LIFE.
Him taking her to church is better than him taking her to a crack house, at least she will get to enjoy the little Sunday School class.
He’s always going to do hypocritical nasty crap, but unless it is on the level of taking your daughter to a crack house, I think your only REASONABLE option is to just not get upset about it. PICK YOUR BATTLES. There are always going to be IRRITATIONS from him and if you let them get to you you will be miserable the rest of your life.
Like Matt, I hope he is losing interest in your daughter and I think the LESS STINK you can make about anything and be BORING yourself to him the better. When he picks her up do not let him goad you into a fight or even conversation about anything (he will enjoy that) but keep conversation to as close to NC as possible. Give her a hug inside the house and push her out the door, when he comes back, open the door and pull her in and shut it again as quickly as possible. If you must talk to him, just be boring. boring. boring. Dress like a FRUMP yourself, if he is going to see you, let him think you are miserable and unhappy but of course don’t want him back, but let him think he has “won” Hee hee
Sooner or later he will move on to another victim, he isn’t gonna like the 4 kids (and all that entails for long)
I’d offer to loan you my UNfailing crystal ball to see into the future, but with a psychopath, you don’t need one! ((((hugs)))) and all my prayers for you, glad you finally got your walking papers!
ShabbyChic, Stargazer, Matt and Ox thanks so much for responding. Yes, it seems like he is losing interest in all of us. In August he came back “professing” his love to me and that he wanted us to stay married. He did that about 4 times during our separation. As far as child support, that is the only good thing about him. It is court ordered and is a huge amount because it includes daycare.
Ox, you are so right I can’t change anything and I am slowly beginning to accept it. I thank God every morning for being divorced from this man.
Dear Nic,
My guess is that he will continue to lose interest in both you and your child if you continue to be BORING to him. We know he doesn’t actually CARE about your daughter, so the less “supply” you can be to him, the quicker he will lose interest.
I think the whole “child seat” crap was just to “pull your chain” and if he is NOT ABLE TO PULL YOUR CHAIN (or at least know he is succeeding in doing so) the qucker he will lose interest. They ENJOY pithing you off and if all their antics don’t succeed in pithing you off, eventually he will just get bored with it.
So don’t complain to him about ANYTHING less than taking your daughter to a CRACK HOUSE. If he does continue to see her on an irregular basis SHE will learn of her own observation that daddy is NOT reliable and you won’t have to point it out to her. As hard as it is, I advise that you let her figure it out for herself (which she will in time) I know it will hurt her to realize daddy isn’t reliable and doesn’t give a flip for me, but just console her with “we can’t change other people’s behavior no matter how much we would like to” as she gets older, you can (without directly criticizing him) at least validate her feelings. “Honey, I know you would like your dad to see you more often, and it hurts when he doesnt, but that is HIS CHOICE.”
I know it hurts us when others hurt our kids, but the sooner she learns these things and the better she learns them, the more jprepared she will be for life on a planet that has Ps in the population. I held my oldest son on my lap for 2 years while he cried his heart out because his dad wouldn’t come see him. It broke my heart! to see my child broken hearted. I even offered back 100% of the child support if he would come see the kids even once a month. No takers.
Just love your daughter and be consistenly there for her and she will “get it” eventually herself. Hugs to you both!!!
Ox, thanks. You are so right…as usual. : ) It does hurt because he so wanted this child but the less contact is better. All she does is run around and play with the other kids while he watches tv. There is no “fathering” going on when they are together. I will not complain to him anymore because really it is just a waste of time anyway.
Hmm, looks like none of my links came through. If you’re interested, you can check out the blog archives of the http://www.keswickhousepublishers.com site and read the entries on “Invisible Predators” (there are four); though they probably don’t say anything that everyone here doesn’t already know. But I am glad that sociopathy is being talked about more, so that hopefully, some first-time targets will get out while the gettin’s good or that people who have already been targeted before will know what happened and be able to avoid the second time or that some people will have their awareness raised to avoid getting targeted at all. This site has helped me figure out what happened and then to figure out my strategy in the aftermath, which has helped considerably. I really appreciate all the work that goes on here.
Cheers to all.
By “this site,” I mean LF.
LILY UPDATE:
I just spoke with Lily, she is off the pain meds enough to talk now, and doing well after the surgery except for the pain (which they don’t want to give her too much medication for because they want her gut to start “working” again) she is able to take liquids by mouth and Italian ices, water, etc. and she is apparently pretty “with it” now. She won’t know yet whether she has to have chemo or not, but should know in a day or two when the lab results come back.
She said to tell you all THANK YOU!!!! a hundred times over for your prayers and concerns.
She has had a little problem with her blood pressure being low, but that may be from blood loss during the surgery, so not to worry right now about that.
She actually sounded more up-beat than she has in quite some time. Keep on praying for her and sending postive energy her way! I didn’t bring up the subject of her kids and she didn’t either.
She’s weathered some pretty bad medical problems in the last couple of years, and she’s a fighter! So hopefully she will make it through this one too!
Dear Nic,
You said he “so wanted” your daughter—well HE MAY HAVE FAKED IT, but I will NOT believe he wanted anything except another POSSESSION, and that might be the case, but since they are not able to LOVE anyone, it is hard for me to think anything positive about them wanting a child to “love.”
Like most of their “toys” and possessions, he will tire of her if he can’t use her to punish you with. So I think if you are boring enough and he can’t “get a rise” out of YOU he will more quickly lose interest in her.
Yay, Lily! Thanks, Oxy, for the update! That is good news indeed.