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Father arrested in death of Prince McLeod Rams

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January 25, 2013 //  by Donna Andersen//  69 Comments

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Back in October, the Lovefraud community was shocked to learn that the toddler son of our own contributor, Cappuccino Queen, went to his father’s home for a court-ordered visitation and did not return. Today the child’s father, Joaquin Rams, was arrested for his murder.

Joaquin Rams arrested for allegedly killing Prince McLeod Rams, on WJLA.com.

Dr. Liane Leedom will be posting about this case soon.

Category: Laws and courts, Media sociopaths, Sociopaths and family

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  1. darwinsmom

    January 26, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    raggedy,

    I have not speculated how greatly the child suffered, period. My own mind won’t even wants to go there, and I very much doubt Hera’s mind wants to either.

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  2. raggedy ann

    January 26, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    DM, I was not saying you had done that. I was trying to explain better to you where part of my concern was coming from, after you addressed me.

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  3. DawnG

    January 26, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    “Invalidation” is putting it nicely. There were people here actively digging into Hera’s personal life and pointing out what they thought were inconsistencies, and whatnot.

    It started looking like a witch hunt until the thread was locked.

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  4. KatyDid

    January 26, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Darwinsmom
    I agree that spath got the idea from a real life event, b/c he had a seizure. My spath found inspiration for a lot of his assaults from sitcoms. Whatever inspires the thought, it’s not a path that normal people travel. The reason I think he practiced comes from my spath, he LOVED getting as much thrill of power of control as possible.

    It’s REALLY HARD to wrap our heads around how depraved and EVIL these spaths are inspired to be.

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  5. raggedy ann

    January 26, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Here??? Christ.

    I saw things in the comments on WaPo, but don’t remember them from here. I follow things here with varying levels of attention. Were these long time posters paranoid about trolls, or recent arrivals that registered because of Hera?

    Cops and judges very frequently suck. As do corporate higher ups and HR departments. It’s the invalidation my our supposed authorties that I think is most frightening.

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  6. KatyDid

    January 26, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Darwinsmom
    I agree that spath got the idea from a real life event, b/c he had a seizure. My spath found inspiration for a lot of his assaults from sitcoms. Whatever inspires the thought, it’s not a path that normal people travel. The reason I think he practiced comes from my spath, he LOVED getting as much thrill of power of control as possible.

    It’s REALLY HARD to wrap our heads around how depraved and EVIL these spaths are inspired to be.

    DawnG
    What was done to Hera was shameful, as if they were entitled to condemn, even though they know how spaths make us look like we’re the crazy ones b/c what we say seems so bizarre and trauma tends to make us lose our dignity in the moment.

    It is a lesson to not expect validation from people who suffered from spaths either b/c they look at life from a broken prism, and sometimes are quite hurtful.

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  7. Truthspeak

    January 26, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    It is my fervent hope that Hera’s experiences and the tragic murder of that baby is a catalyst for changes.

    Validation – that’s one of the most important things that human beings need and crave, and spaths INvalidate their victims to such a degree that the victims either fly or they die (even if by proxy).

    I sit in front of this screen with tears welling up – I cannot, in my wildest nightmarish imagination, wrap my head around how anyone is able to murder a toddler. I just can’t. And, it makes me physically ill to realize that these people DO exist and that they DO murder the most innocent lives of all.

    Honestly, I hope to god that this horrific series of events SCREAMS for changes within the broken Family Court systems across the nation.

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  8. raggedy ann

    January 26, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    I didn’t see this, but don’t forget how many spaths sell themselves as victims when working on their newest prey. We have another thread warning us not to trust too easily on the internet.

    I had a fleeting moment or two of doubt, like kim did. And the wapo comments turned the tables and characterized CQ as a false accuser of something serious. I eventually discounted that to a degree, and all one can do is reserve not judgment but absolute conclusion, stay tuned and try to remain clear thinking and sensitive and delicate at the same time. This sounds like some meanspirited shit happened here.

    I guess this stuff was deleted before I had a chance to stumble upon it?
    And is this why CQ is not here?

    Can’t say I can’t relate, or blame her if that’s the case.

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  9. Radar_On

    January 26, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    As I sit here reading this update on Prince, I am speechless. Truthspeak said what I was thinking as well…”I cannot, in my wildest nightmarish imagination, wrap my head around how anyone is able to murder a toddler. I just can’t. And, it makes me physically ill to realize that these people DO exist and that they DO murder the most innocent lives of all.” Just pure EVIL! AND…had Hera RAN with her baby boy….SHE would have been branded a CRIMINAL! Just, OMG! But what did Hera do? She tried to do the right? thing???????????? ….and TRUST the F**KING justice system???????????????? Just aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Justice? Justice? There will NEVER be any justice for Hera and Prince. Period. Prince is gone, it is too late for justice. I cannot begin to imagine what Hera has/is going through. My heart just breaks for her….

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  10. darwinsmom

    January 26, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Wow, I missed all that circus (which I don’t regret) and I’m very very sorry this happened to CQ… I read her blog to read her first coping with the death. And then this month it occurred to me whether there had been any development. As long as there was no official autopsy news, I just filed “no data/info” yet, but I thought there was every reason to request for a thorough investigation and suspicion around Prince’s death. CQ’s past was completely irrevelant to the need of a thorough investigation.

    A child died, beyond the age of ‘dying in its sleep’, and the seizures were deemed a harmless medical side effect of fever before. So, the death was suspicious anyhow, while under the supervision of Rams. And not until the autopsy results were known, the suspicion was valid, even from the most objective POV.

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