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Father arrested in death of Prince McLeod Rams

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January 25, 2013 //  by Donna Andersen//  69 Comments

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Back in October, the Lovefraud community was shocked to learn that the toddler son of our own contributor, Cappuccino Queen, went to his father’s home for a court-ordered visitation and did not return. Today the child’s father, Joaquin Rams, was arrested for his murder.

Joaquin Rams arrested for allegedly killing Prince McLeod Rams, on WJLA.com.

Dr. Liane Leedom will be posting about this case soon.

Category: Laws and courts, Media sociopaths, Sociopaths and family

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  1. darwinsmom

    January 27, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    Strongawoman, thank you for thinking my posts considerate… I try to be.

    Oxy, you are right… The thruth is not always generally known, nor sought. Sky’s ex got away with murder, mine got away with rape and ordering assault robberies. Neither of us can ever prove it.

    Seeking does not always have to be questioning or active, but just observing and watching, certainly when it comes to red flags. And when a possible crime has just been commited, we are not the police investigators who have access to all reports, and eye witness accounts, nor can we get that information while the investigation is ongoing, and it can go on for god knows how long.

    I had a colleague once who was a friend too, and she had a budding relationship with a suspect of the death of his wife (electrocution in bath). She didn’t know he was a suspect… she just knew he was a widower. She was bothered by his ‘lovebombing’ (didn’t know it back then, but he did lovebomb my colleague), and told him to leave her alone. Then one day he confessed it to her. She went to the police with it, and she was one of the star-witnesses in the trial. Whe she went to the police, they told her that sometimes that as all they could do: wait years and years until the prime suspect would at some point make a confession to someone.

    Sometimes, even the police has no other resource than to watch like a cat in a tree and hope for a suspect to make a mistake.; and the more a suspect feels the victory of having gotten away with it, the sooner they make a mistake.

    It sounds like Rams thought he was getting away with it, since he spent his time smearing Hera, and thereby evidences he thought it was a ‘she says/he says’ thing. The police must have kept their mouths shut over the autopsy report for a while to make him think he could win it like that.

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  2. strongawoman

    January 27, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    No Oxy that is true. The main reason we don’t have the death penalty in the UK…..so many people were wrongly convicted and hung. Terrible.

    I think I was referring to my exp with the spath…..the truth of that certainly came out in the end. And it’s not smellin like a rose MD

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  3. strongawoman

    January 27, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    not for me at least

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  4. skylar

    January 27, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    Well, at least OJ got nailed.

    Darwinsmom, I don’t think that my spath has stopped killing. I know that he was planning on another death but I may have messed that up by warning the victim’s gf. It’s not that she or the victim, believed me, but you see, my spath depends on the fact that NOBODY WOULD EVER SUSPECT HIM, to get away with murder. So now this murder is no longer the perfect murder.

    I believe that he will continue to kill and I hope that eventually he does get caught in one of those. If so, I hope that it will, like Rams, bring up the previous deaths for investigation.

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  5. darwinsmom

    January 27, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    Sky,

    I don’t think he has stopped either. Why would he stop if he got away with it before. It’s not as if he feels guilty over the previous one. 🙁

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  6. skylar

    January 27, 2013 at 8:50 pm

    darwinsmom,
    I think part of his reason for killing is just to plan the perfect crime and know that he’ll never be caught. I also know that envy is how he chooses his victims. He chooses people who have good hearts because he envies that and because they are suckers for the pity ploy.

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  7. darwinsmom

    January 27, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    Sky, and how they prefer to plunge the knife in your back, while you’re still all trusting of them

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  8. cmackney

    January 28, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    I also reported my concerns about psychopathy to the Court and the Court not only did nothing, it chose to bully me into silence and submission.

    The Family Courts are simply not taking Psychopathy seriously, even though all the research into ‘high conflict’ divorce shows that there is a ‘severe psychopathology’ in one or both parties who engage in prolonged legal battles over control of the children.

    There must be a change in the law to protect children from a psychopath parent.

    We all must speak out as victims. The only way there will be a change is if we speak out for the Courts to protect children.

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  9. Ox Drover

    January 28, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    cmackney, it should be CHILDREN who have rights not parents who only contribute DNA.

    You said:

    all the research into ’high conflict’ divorce shows that there is a ’severe psychopathology’ in one or both parties who engage in prolonged legal battles over control of the children.

    TOO MANY TIMES I THINK there is psychopathy on the part of BOTH parents. So it is difficult for the judges to sort out who is truthful (if either is) and who is lying or exaggerating the truth.

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  10. LPMarie13

    January 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Darwinsmom or anyone for that matter, if my ex confessed murdering his victim to me, and another gf before me, and we both went to the police, why for the love of god isnt anything happening? I went to give a recorded statement last January and followed up with the detective to let her know I left the state and he is still free to take a trip to Disneyland! (i know this b/c I decided to check his FB page after months of ignoring it). Its all very disturbing. Maybe they dont have enough to go on.

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