Editor’s note: The following article refers to spiritual concepts. Please read Lovefraud’s statement on Spiritual Recovery.
Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail from a reader who posts as “lostgirl.”
I fell hopelessly in love with (read as I would have given him my real heart and died for him) a sociopath/psychopath.
Skip the details.
I am four years divorced.
There isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t grieve the loss of the relationship I thought I had. I cognitively know that the person I married was not who I thought he was and I even believe I know how he came to be. Unfortunately, I have never felt anger, only sadness for what I viewed as the person he could have been that was taken from him long ago. I see him as an addict and myself as having been addicted to him.
Somehow, now, I still cannot move on. I have been through many short relationships, all ended well for me and usually I ended the relationship when I noticed red flags, the ones I kept close at heart. Again, I am in a new relationship and experiencing all the anxiety all over again (each new relationship triggers this). Including nightmares of the ex-sociopath and agonizing over how to know when someone is genuine. Good words are empty and promises of future fall on my deaf ears because I was disheartened so gravely before.
I have become cold and detached. I feel less emotion for every single thing in my life than at any time ever. All things I own, animals, family, I feel as though I am in a stage of suspended life, I cannot bond. I take care of my animals, I take care of my parents, nothing I own feels as if it’s mine, only borrowed, including relationships. I feel fake and alone.
I truly liked the person I met that I am in a relationship with now, but as with all the others after a short time (three months), I begin to feel less and look critically at their words and life as if I am subconsciously talking myself out of taking the risk of succeeding because of the pool of “thought I had’s” that live inside my head.
I know that a good relationship takes time to grow. How can I give myself the time to grow a relationship when I am so busy still flashing back to a relationship that was agony? He compliments me and I toss it aside. He talks about his life and experiences and I’m trying to assemble timeframes in my head to make sure he isn’t lying to me. It’s as if I’m trying to analyze my way in to a sincere relationship by slicing and dicing all the input/information I’m given. In the meantime I’ve dehumanized the relationship in my head and nearly severed any chance at bonding.
I have read post after post from people and articles all over the internet. What I haven’t found is any truly helpful advice for someone like me.
I fear I have lost the ability to connect permanently because I cannot logically define what is not deceitful at the moment it occurs. What is unselfish, I look for selfishness in. All good is lost because I have become obsessed with what is wrong with what is right.
How do I get back to identifying reality and trusting when it is proper? I feel that my mind was raped and I have lost the ability to connect on any level with anyone. I feel like a shell and I can see through everyone in my life, it would be so easy to be just like him (the ex) but I am not driven to “want” like he did. I see the holes in people and it is so easy for me to identify what is exploitable.
I hate this person I’ve become. I want to climb out of the shell and return to who I was before I fell in “love.”
Help I’m lost.
Realm of Numb
A very wise spiritual counselor once said that unresolved anger becomes rage, and unresolved rage becomes numbness. I think that’s what has happened to Lostgirl—she has moved into the Realm of Numb.
She was so in love with the sociopath that she would have died for him. In effect, that is what she did. Her life spark is gone. She no longer finds joy in her family and animals. She looks for deception in new relationships. She no longer trusts herself to know when she can trust another human being.
The Realm of Numb isn’t a place of pain. It’s a place of emptiness, of nothingness, of void. And it’s a place where none of us should be.
But how do we escape? How do we leave behind the feeling of fakeness, and recover the feeling of authenticity?
Search for meaning
One of the books that Lovefraud recommends to everyone who has experienced the trauma of a sociopath is The Betrayal Bond, by Patrick J. Carnes, Ph.D. The book explains the circumstances that can cause us to form traumatic bonds with an abuser, and provides exercises to help readers unravel those bonds.
When I read the book, I highlighted only one sentence that Carnes wrote, and this is it:
My experience with survivors of trauma is that every journey of recovery depends on the survivor coming to a point where all that person has gone through means something.
This is the key. This is how we truly recover. There is always meaning in what has happened to us, although it can be difficult to find. In fact, that’s what makes the destructive relationships with sociopaths so excruciatingly painful—we can’t figure out why they happened. We did nothing to deserve the betrayal. Our intentions were honorable. So why did this happen to us?
Answers in the past
For many of us, the answer lies in our past. If we’ve experienced an abusive relationship, and were not able to recover, we are primed for another abusive relationship. The problem is even more insidious if we were abused as children, because our whole idea of what is “normal” in a relationship is terribly skewed.
But issues of the past need not be as overtly damaging as abuse. Perhaps our childhoods were basically okay, but we’ve always felt somewhat insignificant, or undeserving of love. We may have had “good enough” parenting, but our parents focused on achievement, and we grew up believing that we were loved for what we could do, not for who we are. Beliefs like these, even when they’re unconscious, can create vulnerabilities for sociopaths to exploit.
It’s also possible that there is a deep spiritual reason for becoming involved with a sociopath. This is what happened to me. I believe that we all come into this life with lessons to learn, and sometimes the lessons are painful. I discuss this more thoroughly in another blog article, Why did this happen to me?
Some people may not be comfortable with the idea of searching for the meaning of the entanglement with a sociopath. It may feel easier to think we were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and ran into the wrong person. We just want to brush the encounter aside.
I think this attitude is only a band-aid, and sooner or later, if we don’t find the root cause, we’ll repeat experience. There is meaning, and discovering it leads to healing.
Research, therapy, introspection
So how do we do this? How do we find meaning in what may appear to be a random victimization?
Here’s an important point: True healing doesn’t just happen by itself. True healing requires personal effort.
The first step is to be willing to look for the meaning. Sometimes this, in itself, is difficult. We may be afraid of the painful memories. We may have tried to shove the experience into the past. We may be afraid that if we start crying, we’ll never stop. By being willing, we face these fears, and we may discover, to our surprise, that we can overcome them.
The actual process of finding meaning will probably involve some combination of research, therapy and introspection.
Research: This means educating ourselves not only about the sociopathic disorder, but also about the characteristics and attitudes of a whole, healthy person. We need to understand what we’ve been through, and what we want to become.
Therapy: By therapy, I mean seeking support from other human beings. This could mean working with a therapist or counselor. Or, it may simply be seeking the advice of an understanding, trusted friend, or other members of Lovefraud.
Introspection: Somewhere, deep within us, we know the answers. If we can quiet our minds, with meditation or just sitting in stillness, information will bubble up into our awareness. We may become aware of the mistaken, limiting beliefs that we didn’t know we had. We may receive intuitive guidance about what we should do. If we allow ourselves to seek the truth within, we will find it.
Emotional experience
We cannot expect the process of finding meaning to be simply an intellectual exercise. The bottom line is, we are in pain, pain that may be so entrenched that it has become numbness.
Pain is emotional. The release of pain is also emotional. Therefore, the search for meaning is an emotional experience. The meaning may be buried under anger, hatred, disappointment and fear, and we need to plow through all those emotions in order to find it. And this isn’t a one-time event. We may release anger, only to find more rise up to take its place. This may happen again, and again, and again. The truth is, we are all walking around in pools of pain, and draining the pools takes time.
The expression of these emotions is not pretty, and many people may not have the strength to be with us as we do it. I found that I could only do it with my therapist, or alone. So I sat in my spare room, which I call the meditation room, crying, pounding pillows in rage, and recording my rants in my journal.
But once we release the emotions, they’re gone, leaving room within us to fill with other emotions—like hope, love and joy.
To Lostgirl
Lostgirl, here is what I want you to know: You were betrayed by a sociopath. This is an experience that happened to you. It is not who you are. You are you; the experience is the experience. Do not confuse the two.
There is a meaning for the experience, and it will help you to discover it. This will require effort and commitment on your part. Take the steps. Make a commitment to yourself, to your own growth and happiness. What better commitment could you make?
Find the meaning. But don’t go on a self-help expedition to the exclusion of all else. Here’s a secret: When you focus on any joy in your life, no matter how small, and feel gratitude for the joy, you create an internal energy that attracts more joy.
Healing our hearts is always the answer. To heal, unearth the pain, and replace it with joy. The process may take time, but eventually the life spark will return, brighter than it ever was.
Hey everyone…
Just a thanks for the support you have all given me with my situation with my D. It is still ongoing, but I am walking 2-4 miles a day…and its helping me get things in perspective. I actually got called in to work 4 days this week,(subbing) and I was too tired to even get online much.
My D contacted me via text in a frenzy. I was not answering her. I finally asked “what do you want”…(She wrote..its your “daughter” D, and even texted her sister…”its your “sister”..)
Funny, how two weeks ago I was 2b and they were “ur girls”.
I KNEW she wanted something. And, it wasn’t just the contacts. She had her deadbeat dad make a Child support payment ..which was really for Sept of 2008. He still owes me 40k. Instead of just sending her the 50 dollars..he wanted credit for the money.
Well, it turns out..she bought herself a new iPhone! And she was begging me to turn on her number. When I told her I cancelled it…she went off on me! Called me “spiteful”…etc. I told her to stop harassing me. Then she demanded to come get her stuff…including a coin jar. When I told her I couldn’t find it..she was even worse!
Anyway, I contacted the local police. They told me to put her stuff in bags and tell her they are outside.
They said I could file harassment charges…and she cannot come into my house without my permission and to contact them if she does.
She demanded that I take her to the eye doctor. I told her I won’t since she threatened to jump out of the car.
Well, I was in a funk. Still grieving over this whole thing.
But, now, I have decided that for the next 7 months until she turns 18, I am going totally NC!
She wants me to change custody to the neighbor..etc..lots of threats to call lawyers..etc.
She is a little monster…and I am NOT answering another text. The only reason I did, is because she sounded frantic and I thought maybe she wanted to come home.
She is probably sitting next to the neighbor writing the texts..because they don’t even sound like her.
November cannot come quick enough!!
Until then, unless I get a call from an emergency room…I am not answering her anymore.
I am doing things to get out of the house..keeping up with my daily walks..and not going to stop living because my D is a selfish sociopath like her father.
Definitely in the DNA.
I also realized that she has been in touch with this neighbor..who is 34 yrs old..single mom…never married…pregnant at 16….for the last 5 yrs, more than I ever knew.
Long story, but she has always felt that SHE was better than me in all ways…always hurt me with how “young” and “thinner” and ‘cooler’ she is.
So, let her feed her and house her and deal with her.
I am bowing out gracefully.
I lost a daughter.
I lost another abuser.
Thank God.
Advice may pour down from the stadium full, but only the matador faces the bull.
I don’t know what’s true here. But what you wrote sounds horrifying to me.
You and her father have considerably more responsibility than either of you are exercising.
It sounds to me like something is still terribly, terribly wrong.
I can’t imagine doing what you have done. Or justifying it for the reasons you have written.
But that’s just my take. And I may not get it.
What I support is professional help for both of you. And I hope you find it or get it.
Its all way, way out of my league to understand.
Thank you Donna for this post.
Very to the point, I found it to be.
How to find ‘healing’…
I will ponder the things you said in your post.
It’s great advice – takes a lot of strong to get there, Lady…
Dupey
Tobehappy,
I think you did the right thing, albeit for the wrong reasons.
You did it to protect yourself, but she is a child and she needs protection too. Whether she is a spath or not, she is acting like one right now and the wrong response is to coddle her and take responsibility for her actions. They are her actions and she needs to own them. She is in “manipulate” mode right now and anytime you allow her to succeed in manipulating you, you will be enabling her. That is why I think you are doing the right thing. You are helping her learn that these tactics DON’T WORK.
That said, I think you would actually get a lot further with Gray Rock, instead of NC. NC could backfire by confirming in her mind that you are “evil” and “don’t care”. Gray Rock is you, interacting with her in ways that ACTIVELY show her that you’ve got her number and she needs to change her behavior. It’s not easy – I know – that’s why I agree with you, 2B, that if you can’t Gray Rock her effectively, it’s best to go NC.
The WORST thing you could do is feed her emotions or respond to her manipulations in any positive way at all.
Tobehappy,
OK…..Sometimes I am slow. But I am begining to get it…Light bulb moment!
I don’t think this was just posted randomly under the betrayal thread. I think just maybe……posting under this thread speaks VOLUMES.
OMG!!!! At first when I read your post I thought same post…different day. You focused on the same things that you have previously focused on.
The neighbor, the hurtful things your daughter says to manipulate, the perks she wants you to provide. The same stuff.
But then I thought…Why post this under this heading BETRAYAL. Does this mean something?
I think it DOES!!! Bingo. You feel betrayed by your daughter don’t you?
Tobe you have got to get “out of your OWN head”. For YOUR sake. For your D’s sake. And for the two other kids that will be teenagers before you know it. For their sake.
This isn’t about YOU! This isn’t about YOU! This isn’t about YOU! Repeat that 100 times if you must.
This isn’t about betrayal by your daughter! I am sorry that you feel this way but she did NOT betray you.
You gave her EVERYTHING. Too much. You yourself admitted to this. Now she expects you to CONTINUE to give her everything she wants. THIS IS a “predictable” position that you are in with her now…..
This is about a teenager that has been indulged and you are no longer indulging her. PERIOD. For now there isn’t any sociopathic tendancies…STOP labeling her. You might regret this one day.
YES, she is manipulative. That would be predictable..From the perspective that she is spoiled….. But it takes alot more than manipulative behavior to be a spath. Out of control teenagers are MANIPULATIVE. ALL out of control teenagers are not personality disordered!
When I came here and my WORLD was being turned UPSIDE down and INSIDE out…Because of what was going on in my household….MY WORRY….MY FOCUS….Wasn’t all about ME and my hurt feelings.
I don’t know how else to reach you but to spell it out.
This isn’t about YOU! This should be ABOUT HER.
And what you can do to parent her NOW in an EFFECTIVE way.
Not to do any further damage.
You have got to SEPERATE your personal “hurt” feelings from how you parent her.
All you are doing right now is “reacting” emotionally to everything she is saying to you. (the hurtful stuff)
Parenting is NOT REACTIVE.
I don’t know what else to say…
TobeHappy,
I am in agreement with witsend that this is about your daughter. I again say that I think there needs to be some PROFESSIONAL INTERVENTION in this situation for the sake of your daughter as well as for your own sake. God bless.
I’m just plain out of words ..
2B;
Just out of curiousity…..how is all this discord affecting your new tenant?
Wow, I just got home from a drive up north to visit my uncle. I had to get out of the house.
Thank you all for your support.
I know that everyone is suggesting some kind of intervention.
She REFUSES to go and I cannot make her.
I also see how some of you feel that it isn’t about ME. Well, the reason I post here is because “I” need support. I am not handling this situation well. I go from crying to anger…feeling so betrayed by her…to feeling so sorry for her.
Every single time I have contact with her, she stabs me in the back again! When I said NO to turn on her phone on my account…she lashed out at me that I am spiteful…etc.
I am trying not to crawl under the covers…feeling drained …and getting so depressed….just for my other girls!
The worst part is that she is living right behind me…and with a woman who she KNOWS I do not care for. And, I didn’t realize it until recently, how close she was with her…via texting…for the last few years.
I thought it was her b/f who was influencing her..but its also this woman.
Yes, I feel so betrayed by her. How could I not? My own daughter treats me like crap and knocks me and slanders my name around town….????
I am just so confused. Maybe I’m not a strong person…not a good “parent” to her, because she has broken my heart.
But, I need to vent. I cannot think of another way to handle the situation. I cannot get over the things she’s called me and her telling everyone what a terrible person and other I am. Maybe it will just take time to understand. I am still in shock, processing it all.
I cannot be nice to her. I tried. And she just spit on me more.
I really just have to grieve the loss and throw the towel in right now…and NC is the only way.
Maybe I’m a weak person…not a good mother…not handling her the way I should. I don’t know.
I am dazed and confused and wish I could just move away.
In the meantime…I walk, I sleep as much as I can…I take care of my other girls…and try not to talk about her or my feelings in front of them.
Erin…My new tenant is hardly around. I see her a few times a week…when she walks in to use the bathroom. She doesn’t even sleep here much…more at there b/f’s house across the lake. So, thank God its working out well with her.
I just feel so sad deep down. To carry a child in your womb, nurture and love her more than anything in the world…(my first)…and to have her tell you that she hates you, thinks you are bipolar and unfit to be a mother…and to betray you…
Is sad.
2B, you do not “get it” what we are telling you.
We realize you cannot make HER GO TO A COUNSELOR, but everyone of us have suggested that YOU DO GO TO A COUNSELOR, that YOU get some professional help to help you cope with this problem. We realize you cannot cope with being her parent, but that is WHY you should go to a counselor.
Milo said she is out of words, and so Am I now. I’ve said this the last time I am going to say it, PLEASE GET PROFESSIONAL HELP, whatever you have to do to get it.