By Ox Drover
In my journey toward healing from life’s pains, and from the PTSD and the pains caused by the trauma from the psychopaths, I think one of the hardest things has been to forgive myself.
I was raised in an abusive Christian atmosphere with a terrible, impossible definition of “forgiving others,” no matter what they did, no matter if they weren’t sorry, or how likely they were to repeat the abuse to me. I was programmed to try to meet my obligation to “forgive” when there was NO WAY I was going to trust them again. How could I?
While this previous “definition” of forgiveness of others who are unrepentant has changed post-trauma to a definition of getting the bitterness out of my own heart for what they did, but it does NOT INCLUDE restoration of TRUST or “pretending it didn’t happen.”
That done, I recently had an “ah ha” experience about “FORGIVING MYSELF” for the things I have done to others that were less than stellar acts. Acts that were down right nasty, vengeful, spiteful, etc.
Some of you may have read my little “parable” about how none of us would hold a grudge or get mad at our little pet dog that was injured and lying on the street with a broken leg, if we were to rush to our puppy’s aid, and in its blinding pain and fear it lashed out at us when we tried to pick it up and it bit us. That would be a totally different reaction on our parts from the way we would react to a dog that bit us every time we went to pet it or feed it, would attack us in our sleep or when our back was turned. Few of us would keep the “psychopathic dog” very long, but we would not at all be angry with our pet that bit us in his fear and pain. We would be understanding and compassionate, though the wound was deep and hurt like heck!
The old saying “there are two sides to every story” is one we have all heard, and many times that is true. There are in the above story two VIEWS—the one of the owner, and the one of the dog.
Many years ago I fell on some brick steps and hit my shin so hard that a huge bruise immediately rose up on my shin the size of half a large grapefruit. The injury was so unexpected, and so sudden, and so painful, that when my beloved husband reached out to extend me a hand to help me up, I immediately struck out verbally and actually SNARLED at him, “DON’T TOUCH ME!”
Another time, a couple of nights after my husband’s tragic and sudden death, a beloved friend of our family was there to console us, she had driven over seven hours to be there. She was very anxious and just kept chattering and chattering. In my pain, the sound of her voice was agony, and I asked her to please be quiet and go to sleep, which then upset her more and made her more anxious and she chattered louder and longer. I finally got up in her face and seething in rage, looked at her and told her to “Shut your lips, if another word or sound comes out of them I will hit you.” Right at that moment in my horrible pain I could have done so. I could actually have hit someone I dearly loved who is in no way anything but loving to me.
Looking back over these instances, I realized in my “ah ha” moment, that there are various things like this that I have done in my life that I am sure not proud of. In pain at various times I have struck out at the very people I loved who were there for me. I have also struck out at the psychopaths many times. I have said things and done things that I am sure not proud of. I have hurt people who loved me and were only trying to comfort me in my pain.
I also realized in my “ah ha” moment that I have not forgiven myself for these things. They still make me feel bad about myself, guilty, shamed, and imperfect.
How do I forgive myself for these things? Restore my own self esteem and trust in myself? I realize that I am human, and looking at the “parable” of the injured dog from the dog’s view point, I realize that those that love me realize, just like the little dog’s owner, that I was striking out in intense pain, and that those people still love me, and forgive me. That I also should realize that I have forgiven them when in their own pain they might have hurt me, so why am I holding myself to a higher standard than I hold others to? Why am I not allowing myself the same forgiveness that I extend to others, even the psychopaths?
I realized that I need to get the bitterness against MYSELF out of my own heart for being human. I acknowledge the wrongful acts I did in striking out at others, even the psychopaths, I feel great remorse for these acts, I have “repented” (made a promise to myself and others that I will not repeat this type of behavior), I have apologized, made restitution if I could, and in short, done everything I can to “make up for” these acts. The people I wronged (except for the psychopaths) have all forgiven me, and restored me to a trusting position in their lives, so I should also forgive myself and trust myself. Being in pain is no “excuse” for biting a lovingly extended hand, but it is definitely understandable.
My forgiving others, getting the bitterness out of my heart so that it does not hurt me, is important, I think, but forgiving myself, I think is just as important. My unkind acts or verbal assaults toward the psychopath did not “ruin the relationship.” If I had been perfect it would not have improved the one-sided relationship of all-taking on their part and all-giving on mine. My failure to please them was not my “fault” in any way. No one could have pleased them. My failure to see that and to cut the relationship sooner, to set boundaries and enforce them, rather than trying to placate them by allowing their abuse was not “right,” it wasn’t a good decision, but it is understandable considering the pain that I was in. It is now time to forgive myself for being human, for being fallible and making mistakes, and for even doing things I knew were wrong.
There is a song by The Byrds its called I’ll feel a whole lot better, i wonder if Roger was singing about an ex SP.
Dear Taken for a ride. The video that really signifies my relationship with the ex. is Fred Durst’s ‘Behind Blue Eyes’. My ex had vivid blue eyes and that video on YouTube really reminds me of him and the way he walked away without any remorse.
Hi, guys, been busy a couple of days–worked myself to the bone on the stuido, finished up the third room and over did my tired old bones and muscles! Couldn’t even sit up to stare at the computer screen.
I have read through all the threads and amm so pleased at how the blog is going “full blast” right now and so many different people posting, and giving some good advice! Way to go guys!
I’m also making some changes in my own head, continuing to “forgive myself” for not being perfect, and especially lower my expectations of perfection in myself. It’s funny (odd) that I have such low expectations of OTHERS and such HIGH ONES OF MYSELF. If I was my own “friend” I would be perfectly happy with me and think I was “wonderful” but looking at myself with my own (unreasonalbe) expectations of perfection in ME, it’s difficult to be happy with me! LOL I KNOW in my head these things, but putting them to practice in my GUT is the difficult part. Some days I do and some days I don’t.
I realized too, that I have still been “procrastinating” doing things I NEED TO DO in a TIMELY manner, and focusing on other things that can wait. So working on doing things more orderly and in a timely manner.
It is “odd” to me the way PTSD and extreme stress work on our minds. ONe of the things that was so weird, was that I wouldn’t listen to the answering machine. Just like a “phobia” or something. I even put a message on there that said
“Hi, this is Oxy, I’m not answering the phone right now, I’m making some changes in my life, you can leave a message and if I don’t get back to you, YOU ARE ONE OF THE CHANGES.”
Even though I knew it wasn’t one of the Ps who had left a message on there I just wouldn’t listen to the messages. Now, I listen to them sometimes, sometimes not.
I actually meant it to be funny but just couldn’t make myself listen to the messages—almost like I was afraid to or something.
Since my son D and I moved back to the farm in December of last year, I still haven’t moved back into the house. I have still stayed in the RV parked next to the hangar (not far from the house) but today I decided to move back into the house. I think it’s time. I guess now I feel safe enough to come out of my little “cave”—I named the RV “Abdullah” which was the name in the Bible of the cave in which King DAvid hid from King Saul when Saul was hunting him to try to kill him. My RV became my “safe cave” when son D and I fled from the farm. I think I can crawl out now, but I will still leave it “ready to go” by just backing a truck up to it, hooking up the hitch and rolling out if need be.
Anyway, if you guys don’t hear from me for a few days at any point, don’t worry–YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE CHANGES I AM MAKING—You are my “peeps”— (hugs)
the ultimate s/p song is kelly clarkson’s ‘addicted.’ they suck us in so deep … here’s the lyrics:
it’s like you’re a drug
it’s like you’re a demon i can’t face down
it’s like i’m stuck
it’s like i’m running from you all the time
and i know i let you have all the power
it’s like the only company i seek
is misery all around
it’s like you’re a leach
sucking the life from me
it’s like i can’t breathe
without you inside of me
and i know i let you have all the power
and i realize i’m never gonna
quit you over time
it’s like i can’t breathe
it’s like i can’t see anything
nothing but you
i’m addicted to you
it’s like i can’t think
without you interrupting me
in my heart
in my dreams
you’re taking over me.
ewwwwww….
* * *
> in my thoughts
in my dreams
you’ve taken over me
it’s like i’m not me
it’s like i’m not me
Henry: I just read your blog about how you put your place in your son’s name when you bought it. I feel like such a dumb ass for putting my x-soc’s name on the deed to my place. He wanted it on…said it was for “security” to know we are in a committed relationship. I tried to make him feel like it was his place too but he kept saying the same thing….it’s YOUR place not MINE. My x will never have his own place. It’s easier to live for free. He went from my free place to the OW’s place. She also owns her own place. I hope she knows that his name is on my deed so she doesn’t put his name on hers too! I want to warn her but I can’t…she may be in on a con with him to steel my property. All he has to do is marry her before he signs off on the deed paperwork and I’m toast. Well, he’s supposed to drop the signed deed off this weekend and take the rest of his things out of the garage. We’ll see. This is such a stressful time. If i didn’t have to communicate to get my deed back, i’d heal much quicker. People like him just plain suck.
He didn’t respect my place either. Then when his son moved in, they both didn’t respect it. They didn’t help with any chores…they just showed up. If the boy broke something by accident like a bowl, he’d leave it there for me to pick up. He wouldn’t even tell me he broke it. I had to ask what happened. It was like, oh yeah, i accidently broke that. I would ask why didn’t you pick it up?? No answer. One time the kid broke a window because he forgot his key and couldn’t get it. He told us a burglar must have tried to break in. His dad talked to him about lying..but the kid continues to lie. He’s going to be a S just like daddy. Guess who had to fix the window?? Me!
Did anyone ever notice their ex S never lifted a finger around the house? I used to ask for help all the time…like can you help me put in the storm door? Fix the toilet? Nothing. I put a storm door in all by myself. Fixed the toilet too. He was lazy and useless.
lostingrief: Just goes to prove that none of us are immune from them invading our spaces … not even Kelly.
Let’s see what she writes for tunes after she gets this vampire out of her space, heals and goes forward with her life.
That’s should be pretty interesting to hear what she sings when her harmony in her life is restored.
Stay tuned everyone. Someone else wrote on the blog about Billy Joel writing songs about his female vampira.
They do get it out to the masses, don’t they? We can watch them in the throws of the turmoil, watch them heal, watch them rediscover their selves … growth, growth, growth … then listen to the great music they write after the pain is over.
Peace.
Ya know.. I’ve been really frightened and depressed over so many things lately.. but it’s done one good thing.. my obsession over you know who is fading away, he’s starting to seem like just a guy with problems that I don’t like very much, not my evil nemesis…
He’ll probably never change, but even if he does I won’t be around to worry about it… I gotta get on with my life..
Dear Iwonder,
My X-BF-P did all kinds of things to “help” around the place, he even mowed my mom’s yard (3 acres) and tried to buy me things (which I refused–as I have found it isn’t a good idea to take expensive “gifts” from people, sometimes there are strings attached) but I think everything he “did for me” or for my mom, even mowing her yard, was to try to “get in” the family and to “hook” me, so that I would let him eventually become the “respectable wife” to keep his harem in line.
My mom called him being so “nice” to her, “salting the cow to catch the calf” and I think she was absolutely RIGHT ON. He “sucked up to” my boys C and D, etc. So yes, he “did things” for me, and around my place, but it was all part of the “hook.”
I am NO ONE’S MAID, and everyone who lives at my house is expected to “pitch in” with household chores. Back when son C and the P-son were at home EVERYONE pitched in with house cleaning, car cleaning, lawn, etc. in addition to school or jobs.
Some of the Ps I have known are “hard workers” and some help around the house, some don’t, but I think it just depends on the individual and what they are “after” —
First of all, I wanted to say “Welcome Back, Oxy”! We’ve missed you and glad that you are back in your house.
Well, I thought I was going to go back to work today but I’m just not ready yet. Being back in the apartment has set me back a bit. I guess it’s going to take me a little longer to start going out and getting back to a routine. I am trying to be patient with myself and learning that it’s okay to do so. Anyway….
I FOUND ANOTHER VICTIM! I called the phone number that I found on my ex-P’s cell phone bill (international). It was the OW…but she didn’t know it! She was very nice and willing to hear what I had to tell her. She told me that they met over the internet “Asian women looking for European men” and vice versa. She said that he was very persistent in the beginning and that HE pursued her. When she told me that they had been communicating since February 2007, I was not surprised at all.
My ex-P told her that his parents were aristocrats. He told her that he owned several restaurants in the city. He told her that he loved her. He told her that she was the “only one”. He told her that he wanted to marry her and proposed to her without giving her a ring. He told her that he would be back in HER country next month. He took off and went to antoher country.
Then I told her that his parents were NOT aristocrats. I told her that he DID NOT own a single restaurant. I told her that he DID NOT love her, he DID NOT love me and that he incapable of love. I told her that she was probably “one of many”. I told her that he was NOT going to marry her, let alone give her a ring. I told her that he was NOT going to go back to HER country. And then I told her that he was a PSYCHOPATH and a CRIMINAL!
I felt so bad. We cried together on the phone. She was saying, “Why me? I didn’t do anything bad to him”. Then the “EDUCATION OF A PSYCHOPATH” began. I explained to her what I’ve learned from LF, other sites and books. Then I e-mailed her some literature to read to educate HERSELF. She was very thankful and grateful. I just wanted to hug her.
Dear Heartoheart,
Good for you!!! I am so glad that this woman was educated to what she had let herself in for. People just don’t seem to “get it” that the person on the other end of the computer can pose as anyone, anything and there isn’t any way to tell.
I saw a 20/20 TV show where some poor guy found his “true love” beauty queen on the internet, left his wife, sold his home, and was mailing things for this millionaire beauty queen who was a “soul mate” for a fat 50 year old American man who made $25,000 a year—sending HER MONEY and when 20/20 caught up with this scam he found out that his “beauty queen millionaire” that was his “soul mate” was a 40 yr old black man in NIgeria. LOL IN the meantime, this man’s life is RUINED and he has lost everything.
We, of all people, should realize that this (to us) obvious scam does rake in a huge number of people, people who are not looking at the situation as IF IT IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS. We all fell for scams, of one form or another, so we can’t be too down on this poor guy, so I really don’t feel very “superior” to him. I fell more than once.
I am so glad though that you warned this woman and hopefully she will not be trying to find her “prince charming” over the internet any more.
As P T BArnum said though, “there’s a sucker born every minute” and there is also a “snake oil salesman” born every minute, so I don’t think the world will run out of Ps any time soon.