By Ox Drover
In my journey toward healing from life’s pains, and from the PTSD and the pains caused by the trauma from the psychopaths, I think one of the hardest things has been to forgive myself.
I was raised in an abusive Christian atmosphere with a terrible, impossible definition of “forgiving others,” no matter what they did, no matter if they weren’t sorry, or how likely they were to repeat the abuse to me. I was programmed to try to meet my obligation to “forgive” when there was NO WAY I was going to trust them again. How could I?
While this previous “definition” of forgiveness of others who are unrepentant has changed post-trauma to a definition of getting the bitterness out of my own heart for what they did, but it does NOT INCLUDE restoration of TRUST or “pretending it didn’t happen.”
That done, I recently had an “ah ha” experience about “FORGIVING MYSELF” for the things I have done to others that were less than stellar acts. Acts that were down right nasty, vengeful, spiteful, etc.
Some of you may have read my little “parable” about how none of us would hold a grudge or get mad at our little pet dog that was injured and lying on the street with a broken leg, if we were to rush to our puppy’s aid, and in its blinding pain and fear it lashed out at us when we tried to pick it up and it bit us. That would be a totally different reaction on our parts from the way we would react to a dog that bit us every time we went to pet it or feed it, would attack us in our sleep or when our back was turned. Few of us would keep the “psychopathic dog” very long, but we would not at all be angry with our pet that bit us in his fear and pain. We would be understanding and compassionate, though the wound was deep and hurt like heck!
The old saying “there are two sides to every story” is one we have all heard, and many times that is true. There are in the above story two VIEWS—the one of the owner, and the one of the dog.
Many years ago I fell on some brick steps and hit my shin so hard that a huge bruise immediately rose up on my shin the size of half a large grapefruit. The injury was so unexpected, and so sudden, and so painful, that when my beloved husband reached out to extend me a hand to help me up, I immediately struck out verbally and actually SNARLED at him, “DON’T TOUCH ME!”
Another time, a couple of nights after my husband’s tragic and sudden death, a beloved friend of our family was there to console us, she had driven over seven hours to be there. She was very anxious and just kept chattering and chattering. In my pain, the sound of her voice was agony, and I asked her to please be quiet and go to sleep, which then upset her more and made her more anxious and she chattered louder and longer. I finally got up in her face and seething in rage, looked at her and told her to “Shut your lips, if another word or sound comes out of them I will hit you.” Right at that moment in my horrible pain I could have done so. I could actually have hit someone I dearly loved who is in no way anything but loving to me.
Looking back over these instances, I realized in my “ah ha” moment, that there are various things like this that I have done in my life that I am sure not proud of. In pain at various times I have struck out at the very people I loved who were there for me. I have also struck out at the psychopaths many times. I have said things and done things that I am sure not proud of. I have hurt people who loved me and were only trying to comfort me in my pain.
I also realized in my “ah ha” moment that I have not forgiven myself for these things. They still make me feel bad about myself, guilty, shamed, and imperfect.
How do I forgive myself for these things? Restore my own self esteem and trust in myself? I realize that I am human, and looking at the “parable” of the injured dog from the dog’s view point, I realize that those that love me realize, just like the little dog’s owner, that I was striking out in intense pain, and that those people still love me, and forgive me. That I also should realize that I have forgiven them when in their own pain they might have hurt me, so why am I holding myself to a higher standard than I hold others to? Why am I not allowing myself the same forgiveness that I extend to others, even the psychopaths?
I realized that I need to get the bitterness against MYSELF out of my own heart for being human. I acknowledge the wrongful acts I did in striking out at others, even the psychopaths, I feel great remorse for these acts, I have “repented” (made a promise to myself and others that I will not repeat this type of behavior), I have apologized, made restitution if I could, and in short, done everything I can to “make up for” these acts. The people I wronged (except for the psychopaths) have all forgiven me, and restored me to a trusting position in their lives, so I should also forgive myself and trust myself. Being in pain is no “excuse” for biting a lovingly extended hand, but it is definitely understandable.
My forgiving others, getting the bitterness out of my heart so that it does not hurt me, is important, I think, but forgiving myself, I think is just as important. My unkind acts or verbal assaults toward the psychopath did not “ruin the relationship.” If I had been perfect it would not have improved the one-sided relationship of all-taking on their part and all-giving on mine. My failure to please them was not my “fault” in any way. No one could have pleased them. My failure to see that and to cut the relationship sooner, to set boundaries and enforce them, rather than trying to placate them by allowing their abuse was not “right,” it wasn’t a good decision, but it is understandable considering the pain that I was in. It is now time to forgive myself for being human, for being fallible and making mistakes, and for even doing things I knew were wrong.
Good morning everyone…. As I have said in the past posts of mine I am in the state of confussion still.. One of the other women contacted me again yesterday and said that he is still calling her and such. He claims it was to tell her he wishes her and her family well but that he loves me. But how many calls does that make. He was calling her quite a bit for the past few days. Do they like it when people fight over them…do they like that kind of attention. I want so much to believe him, that he is trying to do all things right now by me but I just dont seem to be trusting it. Is my gut feelings correct?? Could she be making more into it then what he is doing…or am I crazy to believe anything true is coming out of his mouth.
Also one more question. Do they like the rush of excitment. Everytime I try to walk away and leave things alone (ignoring his phone calls) He calls me and says its urgent he speaks with me….tells me he is having issues and going thru something…everything becomes a crisis for him and I am not being there for him even as a friend and tries to make me feel guilty for not doing so.
hearttoheart said: There’s another book “Women Who Love Psychopaths”……….
I highly recommend this book. I read “Without Conscience”, “Snakes in Suits”, and “The Sociopath Next Door”, which helps give a better understanding of the Psychopath, and, of course, they touch on the victim, too. But “Women Who Love Psychopaths” really helps you come to a better understanding of YOU and why you acted as you did. I can’t say enough good things about this book, which was co-written by LF’s Dr. Leedom and Sandra Brown. I’d like to read Dr. Leedom’s book “Driven to Do Evil” but I can’t find it anywhere, even online. Does anyone know how to get it?
findingpeace,
It’s impossible to truly know what a P is thinking. In my own case, after my P husband moved out, I so wanted to find a way for him to come home that I at first believed him when he said he was going to AA groups, that “God was doing for him what he could not do for himself,” that he was changing. He had all the lingo right, and I started to fall for it. I wanted to fall for it. I was vacillating between the denial and bargaining phases of grief, and was not yet ready to even begin to let go. In the case of my P I now know all he said and did then was just as deceitful and manipulative as anything else he’d said or done before. I think he himself, even though he had been planning on leaving me for a woman he’d had an at least 4 year affair with, felt insecure, and at some level was afraid he was making a mistake, plus he was still bonded to me in some immature, needy way. After all, I had been his mommy (with benefits) for so long.
I’m sure they LOVE it when people fight over them. What an ego trip! They love that kind of attention. Just more supply. And they definitely like the rush of excitement. That is one of the hallmark signs of a sociopath, that they need stimulation, excitement, they are very impulsive.
But I know how hard it is to close the door on them because we loved them so much and believed them and want that “magic” back. Without that we feel so alone and realize that our lives are truly up to us. (I guess they always were, but being “loved” so wonderfully helps disguise that fact.)
FindingPeace: Read up on trauma bonding. There are alot of good articles online about it. Also, if you can, order the book I mentioned in above post, “Women Who Love Psychopaths: Inside the Relationship of Inevitable Harm”. It will help you understand your reactions–why you are reacting as you are– and how he is pushing your buttons and why. NO CONTACT is essential. It is very VERY hard to do with a determined psychopath who isn’t ready to let you go, but IMO it is the ONLY way you can begin to break that trauma bond. But with contact, any contact at all, they are masters at playing on your guilt or other vulnerabilities.
It took me a long time to break free of my P, and I went thru all those type feelings you are experiencing too. Hang in there and keep learning about P’s and yourself and reading here.
Dear lostingrief: He did probably want his dress shoes … and to access the damage that he’s done to your life. They love the accessing the damage part of the entire scenario. Gives them a pick-me-up boost, shot in the arm of adrenalin for their big egos. Be very careful, this is the time that he will pull out all the stops … needs to have you hooked all over again. That’s part of their master plan … always having folks hooked on them.
Be strong, don’t answer the door or the phone. If he has your e-mail … delete, delete, delete.
Play some upbeat music (no love songs to get you down in the dumps) … positive … looking forward, empowering music.
Peace to your heart and soul. You will be a survivor of all this nonsense. And, it is nonsense … them shooting from their hips … big egos … of what they THINK life is all about instead of reading the Bible and learning WISDOM of how God wants us to live. Did I mention respect for others … meaning RESPECT for you?
Dear findingpeace: If he were a real person, would you be going through all this? Think about it. A real person wouldn’t put you through this trauma. A real person wouldn’t cheat on you … therefore, there wouldn’t be OTHER women calling you to tell you anything.
Kick him to the curb once and for all and start your healing process.
To bad that your not in his life anymore. Because of him, his actions, his cheating, his lies, his deceptions, his games, his irresponsibility. Are you understanding any of this?
A real partner in your life works with you so the two of you can have a great life. Not one way, everything for him and nothing for you. Are you getting this message.
Everyone, and I mean everyone … if they are not a GAME player anti-social personality (the real people in the world) does everything to keep a relationship going and running smoothly. There is no drama in real relationships, only phony relationships with anti-socials have the drama.
And, what’s with this woman calling you? Is she calling you to warn you or is she calling to flare your emotions up? Is she real and not playing games with you, or is she an idiot that wants your EX for herself. If it’s the latter, let her have him. Let her have the heartache, headaches, irresponsible person in her life that will drag her down to ruins. And, RUINS for her or anyone else – it will be.
Peace. Get out and STAY out while you can and rebuild your life.
hmmmm….. he wanted to assess the damage? really? hmmmm…. really? why? he’s still with his wife and now instead of me, he has his new, sparkly, shiny, pregnant girlfriend? what does he want with me?
Dear lostingrief: You are ALL part of his game … and a game, not real life, is all it is to him (anti-social personalities). You, as is his pregnant girlfriend, are OBJECTS to the likes of him. Not real people.
If he was a real person, would any of what you’ve gone through … happen? Think about it. Would there be another in the picture that is pregnant? A real man who loves a woman only loves that ONE woman … not multiples. And vice versa. The woman only loves that one man … not multiple men in her life. Not multiple women in the man’s life.
Does any of this make sense to you? Stop buying into all the drama you see on TV that real people bounce from partner to partner. That’s anti-social sensationalism at it’s best.
Real people say what they mean and mean what they say. Period. There is NO hidden agendas or reading between the lines of what you think they meant, or what they should have said. A real person puts all their cards on the table for everyone to see. There is NO guessing games when dealing with a real person. There is no DRAMA, no hurt feelings … no string of broken hearts trailing a REAL person. A real person is responsible in every aspect of their lives … starting with the love and respect for their parents, their siblings … the friends and love in their life.
Peace.
Peace.
LIG, From reading some of your past post, it seems your ex has a wife AND another pregnant girlfriend if I’m understanding you correctly. In one of your post you were worried about if you have contact you might beg him to make love to you one more time. That is why you need to stick to NO CONTACT regardless of WHY he is contacting you. If I had to just guess, since you’ve been there sexually for him in the past, in spite of his other relationships, he just wants to make sure you’ll still be around for that at his convenience if he decides to turn on the charm for a romp in the hay.
But try to look at it from another angle, too, taking the focus off him for a minute and considering your actions. I think you said he is living with this new pregnant girlfriend. We, as women, often feel great anguish when our man cheats on us. BUT, if you succumb to having sex with this guy again, KNOWING he is living with another woman and she is pregnant with his child, well, regardless of his fault in it, …..you also have to look at YOUR choices in it, because you’d be doing the very behavior, engaging in cheating, that he broke your heart doing. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but you sound like a very nice and caring person, so I hope you’ll think about not doing something you wouldn’t want done to you by another woman.
LIG-He wants supply from you. I just read malignant narcissism by sam vaknin. It really helps explain what the *** my ex wants from me. How could he have the tenacity to even show his face to me? Which, he constantly tries to do. They are addicted to supply. As he pursues you, he is also pursuing others. This is what he did while he dated you (hence the pregnant other women). This is what he is doing while dating the pregnant lady. He is probably in the process of devaluing her. That is what happened to me while I was pregnant. Now I just got word that the new girlfriend is pregnant. They love getting their women pregnant because it guarentees them supply. We have said all along that you are lucky you didn’t get pregnant. He can’t get to you by any legal matters. It’s probably bothering him. You did the right thing by not answering the door. The last thing you want is to talk to him, and then get spun in his charming web again and then end up pregnant so that he can devalue you again when you are pregnant and needing him most. What pleasure they take in that. Stay away.
Towanda