Editor’s Note: This SPATH Tale was submitted by the Lovefraud reader who posts by the name “stronginthecity.”
I am currently in a relationship with a sociopath. I’ve been with him since June 2013. I was with him before. That relationship ended in 2006, leaving me jobless and depressed because he left the relationship abruptly and literally disappeared.
I am a medical professional, so I am the typical target I guess.
He resurfaced last year proclaiming his love for me and how much he missed me — giving three or four reasons, explanations why he left. I kept tabs on him through the years from time to time and found out he was in prison in 2009 for drug charges.
He is a constant liar and manipulator and we had a “chance” meeting in a drugstore parking lot where I had never been before in February 2013.
Again he disappeared then reappeared around May 2013. I saw him drive past my house many times. He never tried to contact me until June of 2013 when he got my phone number from a mutual friend.
I had just started dating again and was on a first date with a man when he called me. The calls were blocked and I didn’t listen to the messages until the next day.
He said that he was at a street festival and “why don’t you answer your phone” and “you should meet me”. I didn’t even know it was him. I had an idea but wasn’t sure.
A few weeks later, exactly the time I was leaving for work, he called again from a blocked number and I answered. It was him telling me he was working in my state, when he was really 2,000 miles away with his wife and children, saying he wanted to meet me for dinner. I agreed to meet him and before I knew it I was in deep again.
He actually did get divorced from his wife, but now the wife has moved to my area and things are again in the crazy stage. I have caught him in numerous lies and am certain he has cheated multiple times but I never actually caught him.
I have been back and forth trying to establish no contact but somehow I always end up back with him as he makes me believe the lies and sucks me into the drama. He loves me. I am the only one yet other women, who he claims are friends call his phone.
I also believe he has made copies of my house keys and comes into my house when I am at work.
He has not held down any steady job since June 2013, thank goodness I am full time employed but he knows my work schedule and keeps tabs on me. He tells me I am crazy when I question the nonsense. He lies about his whereabouts and actually gives me “clues” just to make me jealous. I am at wits end right now as he is trying to wiggle his way back into my life.
The last time I saw him was Halloween weekend, after an argument again about his whereabouts.
I need help to maintain no contact as he is texting me with the, “I’m a good guy story, I miss you” again. Of course we have an incredible sexual relationship and he swears he does not want anyone else, and has not been with another woman since June 2013.
My gut is telling me he is lying and I know I am right.
Unfortunately, I had a setback and saw him last weekend and during this week. Thank goodness he had a trip planned during our no contact and I am glad he is gone as I found myself making life plans with this man again.
He has been on his best behavior since I agreed to see him Saturday night. He spent the night Saturday and Sunday. He went to work Monday and Tuesday night and came over again making me dinner, flowers, my favorite wine and worked on my house. The whole nine yards. He left Thursday morning because he wanted to see his kids that he has not seen in over a year.
I am glad he is there as I need this time to regroup and make sense, crazy sense of this entire situation. I will continue to post and read on your Lovefraud because it’s so helpful to me. I know that I need to stay away from this man ”¦ he was talking about getting married again. He said lets write up a prenup and get married because he loves me, blah blah blah.
I DON’T TRUST HIM.
I left him alone in my home again. I need to end this once and for all.
Strong,
What is the injection? Sterroids?
Keep in mind that by having the accupuncture you may be releasing blocks-emotions…..
Remembertoforget,
Yes steroids in the joint of the spine.
The Naprapath said I don’t need it.
I never had it before and I believe you are right about it releasing emotions.
He has been a doctor for 25 years and tons of reviews…all positive.
Western medicine has defiantly not worked for me so I’m going to trust my intuition on this one!
Positive thinking!
Could this spath crap have all led me to this new way of treating my body?
SITC
Strong,
I believe indeed the spath crap could have led you to a whole new way of treating your body!
I usually go with a mix, a balance between, science and spirituality/Faith.
Sometimes we need some medicine and add some hollistic practices. YOU will feel what your body needs!!!
Remembertoforget,
Yes, you are right!
It is all coming together now.
Everything is lining up.
If I did not get that call the other day I would not have known.
See my comment in the 11 sign of abuse story on here.
I relied to Jan7 comment and while I was writing about the phone call from his stupid friend the other day.
It all coming together.
His friend on command called me and at the end of our conversation he told me that he wanted my money.
At least the flying monkey had a conscious.
I feel my pain melting away.
I figured it out, there was a reason I did not change my #.
XOXO,
Stronginthecity
Remembertoforget, KeepingOn
I feel a certain freedom today after the discovery of the the truth..may have been apparent to the world around me but not stupid ol me.
I will teach, train and literally beat this into my head so that it never happens again..INTUITION!Gut Feeling! My wounded heart will have to come last for now.
It’s there for a reason.
I finally listened to Gavin de Beckers Youtube yesterday.
It was shortly after that all of the pieces came together with the money and my sick ex husband, the vice president bank lady that he got info from while most likely sleeping with her too.
I remember her calling his phone and I could here her reaction when he started mumbling about painting her condo.
She was like huh????
It’s all so clear and if I ever see this man again I am uncertain what I will do.
Hugging, kissing him and even touching him are NOT on the list.
I hope that you, KeepingOn and everyone else here either find out the absolute truth( I did not have to dig, it came to me)or come from a fog a more intuitive you.
This has certainly been a journey.
I am not done learning and still have a lot of work to do.
I just found out I don’t have to go back to work until the end of August and am looking into a few day beach getaway just for me.
I have put off a vacation for way too long and now that I have the answers I feel a certain freedom.
Hugs and prayers.
I could not have gotten here without you guys.
Who know’s I may end up just transferring within my company to another state, they have offices in many states!
I could easily rent this place and always wanted to move maybe SC!
XOXO,
Stronginthecity
Strong,
Was your ex husband already sick when the N came back into your life?
On my way to work I was going over all my exs, and short term crushes, and the ones I felt passionate about were the bad ones. Also, I thpught about how unattractive they are to me now and how I would never touch one of them again! Time- these were all so long ago. Interesting how I once thought I felt for them.
One day, I will probably feel this same about the exN.
I can’t wait!!!
Remembertoforget,
Yes, my ex husband was already very ill when the disordered one came sniffing around.
When I talked to him through the car window in the parking lot where he followed me to he said he heard my ex husband passed away.
I told him no, he is very ill.
That’s when it all started…after being out of my life since 2006.
From that time, I think it was February he gathered info and was living between here and Florida.
It was months later that he started with his work on me.
Ugh, I feel you on the yucky ex’s.
There was one that I started seeing when I was going through my divorce.
He was much younger than me.
I don’t believe he is a spath but a chronic liar and cheater.
He lied to me from day ONE when I met him about where he lived.
He told me he lived with his brother and was really living with his parents.
I did not find out about this until we had been dating for over a year.
Anyway I stuck around with him for way to long also, and shed many tears but the thought of him now…YUCK.
Yes, there were many crushes that I look back on now and get that what the hell was I thinking feeling too.
You will get there.
I promise.
It will all line up and you will have that same clarity about the exN too.
I have to process all that has happened in the last few days.
I have a range of emotions and it feels good to finally know what was going on.
What Melanie said was true for me.
She said one day I will thank him, not in person or by any other means.
I finally get to work on myself and now I will choose who is in my life.
Have a wonderful day at work knowing that it will pass soon.
The fog will lift or you will get a piece of info that will move it for you.
XOXO,
Stronginthecity
Strong and Remember,
I’m so happy you were able to find such clarity! Like they say and we know all too well, spaths pick us for reasons that serve them.
I see so much now about my past — I think we have all reached that aha moment regarding our past’s. 90% of my relationships were toxic. I’ve only realized it in the past few months. It’s helped my healing tremendously.
I have felt the fog lifting for a while now. It’s only when the stalking amps up that I find myself in the dark again. I’ve been stalker free since for only 4 days now but I already feel like myself again. It may be temporary but I fully embrace the days I feel well!
Like Remember, I rely heavily on my spirituality and meditation.
I feel we have all made progress. I’m glad we’re in this journey together.
KeepingOn,
I am so glad that you have had some relief from the stalking.
I can certainly understand how that can set you back.
The meditation, which I thank you ladies for the info on that has been very helpful.
Yes, we are in this journey together!
Toxic relationship central here, a former member that is.
I just now laid down some boundaries with a couple I met over the 4th of July.
They seemed like a nice couple spent the day at the pool and chatted.
I mentioned I have a studio apt. in my home that I rent through a trusted website because they like to come to my city for sports events.
I gave them my contact info. I do not have my listing active on the website because I just want my privacy now.
Well anyway he text me last night about the studio they want to rent it in September.
We talked about it when we met.
I did not respond yesterday to his text because I was having a bad feeling about them for some reason.
He text me again just a few minutes ago and I responded that the studio is unavailable, that I was sorry and hope all is well.
His response..Unbelievable, thanks for nothing.
I had a bad feeling about him and his girlfriend and there you go! Blocked that #.
His response was exactly what my intuition was telling me.
The old me would have just went ahead and rent to them for the weekend because I told them over a month ago that the studio might or might not be available.
Nope no more of that.
Progress made indeed.
Have a wonderful day!
I think I will do some cleaning today!
XOXO
Stronginthecity
KO, Stic,
We are definitely moving on and moving inward…
The only difference with me is that mine was fishing on fb and I took some bait. Lol. He caught me!
Who cares…I am trying to get back into the meditating. Last night I did 2 before sleep. 🙂
As far as the remaining 2 friends from that genre, the truth is- they are just people I know and have only our past in common. They are highly unconscious people.
I am, like you KO, comfortable! Being more myself. When i’m going out and running around with those people yhat is NOT me being me, it’s me being distracted. Their lives are full of reaching at distractions. I don’t even waste my time talking about any deep or healing stuff with them….and why would I want friends that I have nothing in common with in growing etc etc….
Funny thing is- to these people i’m not normal, well, I look at them like they aren’t normal because of their crazy lifestyles. They are doing what we were doing at 24- only now they have divorces and kids inder their belt.
Having cancer at 27 changed my lifestyle back then.
Oh well. I’d rather be ME!
God Bless them. I hope I am boring enough to not be invited out anymore!
🙂
KO,
Oh, and the friend not telling me last year, when the guy told me about it in front of her- she was like oh I forgot!!
He didn’t call or text and neither did she when it happened! They don’t give a shit. Not my definition of a true friend.
I’d rather have 1 friend then those type of friends.
That’s my story and i’m sticking to it!
Id rather be boring!!!!!
Remembertoforget,KeepingOn,
Defiantly moving forward for sure.
No worries about the FB thing, that whole phase will pass too.
You can tell about it if you care to share, if not that’s cool too.
You will get bored with it all and just move on.
Regarding friends….I had to break contact with all of the mutual friends but I don’t miss them.
They are all people I went to grammar and high school with and never really kept in contact with them until I was with him.
They are as you have described above.
I would rather be alone right now anyway.
I am not getting much cleaning done..of the house anyway!
Cleaning my mind.
That’s what I want to do right now so I am going to do that.
I went swimming in the lake yesterday and did’t do any meditations so I want to focus on that this afternoon.
XOXO,
Stronginthecity
Strong,
Woohoo to that!!!!!
Went with your gut and smacked em with a boundary! Hey, No is a complete sentence!!!!!
I love it!!!!
I have always believed, before my breakdown of life lol, that we get tested. Things will happen to see if you are awake, paying attention. We get tests thrown our way, and you my friend just passed with flying colors!!!
Remembertoforget,
Yes ma’am!
Smack, smack.
Boy did that feel good!
No is a complete sentence, LOVE IT!
My house, I make the rules!
I am awake and paying attention.
Thanks for the support!
SITC
It wasn’t easy but I felt like he still had power over me by my peeking into my email account to see if he emailed me.
And now here we are….
Keeping on.
xoxoxooooo
Remembertoforget,
I know how hard it is(was) to resist temptation, to see if they tried to contact you.
It’s very empowering to know now that it does not matter.
This is not about them anymore.
I had a lovely talk with my daughter today.
She is such a beautiful person with so much insight.
Very wise beyond her years.Her husband is wonderful and so supportive and loving.
I am going to have lunch with her and my ex husband tomorrow.
It’s been a very nice day today.
I feel at peace.
Yes my friend, here we are.
I wish you a peaceful and loving evening as well!
XOXO,
SITC
Strong,
Oh the fb thing goes like this…he had mutual friends and requested me, I accepted then a week later deleted him thinking I don’t want people I don’t interact with on here.
Then I commented on a mutual post and he re friended me. So what happened was, he was posting positive sayings and/or spiritual stuff, and BAM I struck up a convo with him through messages, note: I never do that if I don’t know you. Waaaaaaaaah. I was depressed and sad at the time. The rest is history!!!!
Rembertoforget,
Ewww, I see.
I had to read your post twice, LOL!
Then I said ohhhh.
Yeah, don’t do that anymore!
You know how that goes, a FB post leads to a text, leads to lets meet for dinner…..ya know.
You deleted him, or unfriended him right???
SITC
Strong,
Oh I got off all social media, changed my number twice and cancelled my email addresses. He was writing me in April and so I deleted the email account.
I never heard from him again. 4 months now.
Remembertoforget,
Attagirl!
Girl power!
Good for you.
You take care of business.
4 months shows your incredible strength and commitment to staying no contact.
It gets better every day, right?
I read here I think it was Jan7 who said that one thing the spath did not count on was us coming together and joining forces to support each other!
I am trying to be positive and be that strong and confident girl I remember.
I was on my Yelp account returning a message from someone I asked about a back doctor the other day and deleted all of the negative pointless things I wrote about.
It felt good to do that.
I only left 1 bad review because this is true and not a blah blah thing.
I also wrote reviews about Dr. Webster and the place that fixed my car and did not rip me off!
I am praying that this will bring more positive things to come.
So done with all of the negativity.
No wonder my body was reacting in such a way.
I hope your day is full of nice people as you mentioned there are a lot of divas in your field.
Just smile at them!
SITC
KeepingOn,
Well hooray for the marathon training! Awesome!
Good to be aware of the balancing of your needs.
LOL to creepy grocery store guy…(of course he was!) jk.
That is a forward movement in possibly going out with the other guy. No harm in getting your feet wet and practicing!
I felt depressed all last week, moderately, and was waiting for the release, some tears. Finally they came. Last night and today. Been listening to some great Teal videos, and reading more on shadow work. Pretty similar to Melanie’s approach, you know that already.
So I have identified the wounds and I grabbed some paper and wrote- I felt __, I felt __, etc. etc. with that person.
Also I did not feel those ways in 2 other long relationships. And so, now I get the shadow work, and also learned that it is necessary for those that want to evolve to the next level that which is no suffering. I was stuck in spirituality 1.0 lol.
I hope you had a well Monday, thank you for being here and understanding so very much!
Please let us know if or how the date goes!!!!
🙂
Remember,
I feel like I’ve been stuck in spirtual class 101 for decades! Probably because I have been! We are to the next level. I feel it in my soul. It’s hard to explain. I know you get it.
The tears finally released…that’s good. That build up drives me crazy. When I know I need to cry and grieve fully but my emotions take there sweet ass time.
You’re on top of your self work and that counts for so much! Wish I could say the same thing for me. Work has been busy and I haven’t had a lot of time. Still, I feel like I’m making progress regardless. More stalking today but I’m feeling well. I’m going to keep training for this half marathon but feel it’s putting me at risk (the car was back when I ran this morning). I plan to ride it out for now.
So grocery store guy..I’d like to tell this story because I’m proud of myself Although I recognize I needed bigger boinderies.
So I’m walking into the store and a car stops to let me by. I wave. I’m comes creepy man. He looks normal. Maybe 10 yrs older than me. He says “I just saved you from a car hitting you.” I knew that wasn’t true and kept to my business. I was close to the front door shopping for produce. He came back a minute later. Said maybe he should have let me get hot by the car because he would’ve naturally gone to the hospital to make sure I was okay and then we would’ve fallen in love. He explained that maybe that’s what it takes now to land such a beautiful woman as me. I kept trying to walk away. He Gabe me his name twice. I only listened and finally managed to walk away. As I left he said he hopes to see me again. I watched him leave the store with no groceries.
What I took from this:
1. He was a creeper who appeared normal
2. I was able to recognize this (before I would’ve blown it off)
3. My boinderies were not strong enough to tell him to leave me be
4. I was able to walk away and give the impression I wasn’t interested so he left me alone.
5. He said he hopes to run into me again, meaning I didn’t give a clear enough message.
6. I’ll do better next time and am proud in saw him for what he was.
Strange how someone can appear so normal. Act like the night in shinning armor yet be as creepy as hell. I’m so grateful I could see through that!
Just wanted to share because although it seems his creepiness was obvious, it wasn’t. I attribute it to all the reading and self work I’ve done.
The creep factor would have been obvious to me even pre-spath as soon as the line about the hospital came out. Ugh, gross! I am sorry you had to experience that.
I have been working on my condescending chuckle, disbelieving snort, and incredulous laughter lately. So far I have had opportunity to test out the incredulous laughter on the sociopath but the results were questionable due to the situation in which I encountered the sociopath.
KeepingOn, maybe you need similar arsenal in case creeper guy stakes out the grocery store? Although if he bothers you there again I think you should report him to store management. If he isn’t buying groceries then he isn’t a customer and they should have no problem banning him for harassing legitimate customers. Otherwise find a different grocery store and let management know why you no longer shop there.
Even empathic people can be assertive!
SITC,
Well hello!
I was curious about you this weekend, if you were behaving- or conversing with that man!
Once you know what he is, you won’t ever see him the same again. I think. lol. I found part of a journal from my early days with the ex, when I thought he was a regular/normal person. Interesting.
I hope you are ok, and didn’t get too slimed by contact with him.
I’ve been allowing the sadness to come, welcoming it, instead of fearing it or running away from it. It’s a process. Been going through processes all year. This year has been flying by for sure!!!
Hope today was well for you!
🙂
Remembertoforget,
Hi!
Thanks for thinking of me, I thought about how you are doing also.
I spent the weekend and today with my ex husband talking open and honest about his illness and taking care of him.
I told him about the guided meditations (thank you) and he seemed open to it.
Sunday, he was not up to visitors and I stayed home and watched one of my favorite movies “The Notebook” hence the communication with his evilness….as if lol.
I have my answers and that’s all I need.
As I said so transparent now. GROSS.
I am totally fine. Slimed, love it!
The contact was very short and I saw right through it and recovered in 5 minutes.
It’s good that you are allowing yourself to feel your feelings on your own terms.
That’s very empowering.
Feel it, read your feelings from before compare to how you feel now and it will just happen.
You will get there, I promise you.
I learned that boundaries have been working for me.
I don’t even think I had any before.
Yes, mid August already.
I hope that you have some fun things planned for the continuation of beautiful summer.
Thank you again for your kind words.
I hope you had a great day as well.
Hugs,
SITC
Strong,
You wrote me thanking me for a comment I posted a while ago. I can’t for the life of me find it and the site isn’t directing me to where you posted.
Glad I could help in someway! What post was it?
KeepingOn,
How are you doing?
It was a reply to a post about my daughter and my ex husband(not ths spath).
My ex husband is terminally ill, day to day now.
You said you would pray.
I wanted to thank you.
SITC
Remembertoforget,
I hope you are having a good day.
Allowing the sadness to come, feel it, write it..is part of the grieving process.
I found out during Melanie’s webinar that writing those feelings and old wounds in red pen on a blank piece of paper was SO helpful.
I never really did that before. It felt good to look at it the next day, and sit with it for awhile and then put it away was a big step to healing.
I have been setting boundaries with just about everyone in my life now.
Turns out that my own sister was setting me off and I did not realize it.
SMACK with a boundary an hold my head up high.
You will get there.
One day it will all just go away.
Have a great day and smile!
XOXO,
SITC
Strong,
No more crazy train to crazy town!
I’m burning my essential oils, reading articles, maybe some netflix and hopefully a meditation. Normal enough for ya! Hahahaa.
I feel bad for your ex hubby. Cancer sucks.
Thank you for being here, you KO, and all the LF’ers that have helped coach us along the way!
Hugs. xoxoooooo
Remembertoforget,
Hmm burning essential oils!
Another fantastic idea, I just bought some lavender oil and have been putting it on my pillow.
I have one of those oil burner things that you put the tea light in sitting right here.
What in the world would I do without you?
Thank you for the prayers.
It’s tough to see him in pain.
It’s a day to day some days hour to hour thing.
Cancer sucks.He is a tough guy.
I know you are a survivor.
Hugs to you.
Netflix here too, I did the 30 day Amazon Prime that’s where I got in trouble Sunday with watching The Notebook, but I love that movie.
It reminds me what I do want.
I think I will watch it again!
Lavender burning and a glass of wine!
Ahh nice and peaceful.
Thank God.
XOXO,
Stronginthecity
Remember, KeepingOn,
Thank you for being there.
It’s all been so helpful to have your support!
Think about the Bahamian glow!
SITC
Sitc,
Or the Miami glow! It’s right down the highway…haha, but wait, maybe not, there’s ALOT of Spaths down here!!!!
😉
Strong,
And Lavender is my FAVORITE!!!!!!
I make a spritz. In a small spray bottle, about 20-22 drops and some clean water, 1 tiny drop alchol, and wala!
I spray me, my place and my dog! Not for cats though, I know you have cats!
Remembertoforget,
Lavender in a spray bottle, done and done!
It’s my favorite too.
Awesome!
Miami is cool too.
Long way from spath ville!
Have not been there in a long time.
I also want to visit Cuba.
SITC
Remember and strong,
My fav is lavender too! I even keep some oil in my desk at work to keep me grounded. I’ve never made my own. Thanks for the tip Remember!
KeepingOn,
Yes, I hope you do get this weekend to rest and recharge!
Balance the hustle n bustle with the rest n revive.
I in no way think that was the wacko. If it was,I wouldn’t be scared. Thinking it could be some stranger stalker is frightening.
I think it was a one time gig.
You seem to be holding up alright. Geeez this year is flying by, and what a summer it has been!
The summer of change.
xxxxooooo
Strong,
Amen sister! Happy Friday!
It’s amazing how many normal everyday responsibilities we can do and focus on! I couldn’t even relax and do my bills like I always do when with him.
Always a cloud over me, a feeling of un-ease.
I am so much more productive these days, yes, like the old me!
Thank God right?!
Enjoy your day Strong!!!
🙂
Remembertoforget,
Happy weekend!
That feeling of un-ease with the cloud.
Check, check.
Exactly the same.
Gone.
Back to taking care of business!
Have a great day!
SITC
KeepingOn,
Eeeew. That can be scary sometimes, creepers like that! You did good, he’s gone. Any signs of him again tell him to get lost!
So, last night at around 12:30 I just started to close my eyes and someone knocked on my door very fast and rang the doorbell!!!
Knock knock knock, ding dong!
I jumped out of bed shaking and called my companion/ex non spath. So I had to peek out window and saw nobody. Then I called non emergency police.
A car came through and called me from the street.
He asked if I had any ex boyfriend that would do that. Lol
Anyways- i’m on the 2nd floor, opens to the outside, scary because people could see me coming and going.
I nearly had a heart attack. Then I start to think, did that really just happen or am I crazy or imagining it? I slept with a light on.
Could have been some punks doing a prank.
Ugggggggh.
Remember,
I hope you had a more peaceful night last night. I am so sorry you had to go through that. I know the feeling all too well!
It sounds a little strange/random that some punks would pull a stunt like this, although it could be. What is your gut telling you? Good the cops asked about an ex being a possible threat!
You’re not crazy! As my therapist says it’d be easier if it was in your head because than it wouldn’t be real. I’m the queen of minimizing!
Remembertoforget,
I just saw this, I have lost track of days for the last week because I have been going back and forth to stay with my ex husband if my daughter has to run errands.
Anyway WTF??
That’s crazy.
Here what I think.
If this happened to me after all the spath stuff I would think he was talking shit to one of his punk ass friends,he does not hang out in bars but if he did or he was with his friends and I was brought up he may have asked or one of his stupid friends would saw let’s scare her, it sounds like ding dong ditch.
Something the neighborhood kids may have done when we were 10 years old.
We as the normal people have to remember that we are dealing with crazy 10 year olds trapped in a mans body.
I hope you are ok.
Hopefully it was a one time thing.
It has happened to me before, someone was at my bedroom window in the middle of the night.
My cat heard it and jumped on my chest to wake me up.
It never happened again, I called 911 and the police came right away.
I guess we have to expect the unexpected.
They are predictably unpredictable.
XOXO,
SITC
Keeping On,
Thank you! Last night I had the non N sleep over.
I think it was random- either pranks, or someone knocked on the wrong door? There’s only 1 apt up there that would have someone knock so late.
I don’t think it had anything to do with the ex.
I pray nothing happens again!!! Then, it will be an issue. Uggggh.
Hope your week is swimming along. 🙂
🙂
Remembertoforget,
Disregard my last post.
I just saw this.
The fact there is someone upstairs that would have someone that late makes sense.
Can you ask the upstairs neighbor if someone was there?
Just for piece of mind.
SITC
Remember,
Good call. I typically wait to see if an incident happens again to know for sure. Fingers crossed it’s not him!
I had another incident Monday but it didn’t bother me too much. I’m super busy with work right now so that may be why. I’m too tired to care! Hopefully I’ll get to rest some this coming weekend and recharge.