Editor’s Note: This SPATH Tale was submitted by the Lovefraud reader who posts by the name “stronginthecity.”
I am currently in a relationship with a sociopath. I’ve been with him since June 2013. I was with him before. That relationship ended in 2006, leaving me jobless and depressed because he left the relationship abruptly and literally disappeared.
I am a medical professional, so I am the typical target I guess.
He resurfaced last year proclaiming his love for me and how much he missed me — giving three or four reasons, explanations why he left. I kept tabs on him through the years from time to time and found out he was in prison in 2009 for drug charges.
He is a constant liar and manipulator and we had a “chance” meeting in a drugstore parking lot where I had never been before in February 2013.
Again he disappeared then reappeared around May 2013. I saw him drive past my house many times. He never tried to contact me until June of 2013 when he got my phone number from a mutual friend.
I had just started dating again and was on a first date with a man when he called me. The calls were blocked and I didn’t listen to the messages until the next day.
He said that he was at a street festival and “why don’t you answer your phone” and “you should meet me”. I didn’t even know it was him. I had an idea but wasn’t sure.
A few weeks later, exactly the time I was leaving for work, he called again from a blocked number and I answered. It was him telling me he was working in my state, when he was really 2,000 miles away with his wife and children, saying he wanted to meet me for dinner. I agreed to meet him and before I knew it I was in deep again.
He actually did get divorced from his wife, but now the wife has moved to my area and things are again in the crazy stage. I have caught him in numerous lies and am certain he has cheated multiple times but I never actually caught him.
I have been back and forth trying to establish no contact but somehow I always end up back with him as he makes me believe the lies and sucks me into the drama. He loves me. I am the only one yet other women, who he claims are friends call his phone.
I also believe he has made copies of my house keys and comes into my house when I am at work.
He has not held down any steady job since June 2013, thank goodness I am full time employed but he knows my work schedule and keeps tabs on me. He tells me I am crazy when I question the nonsense. He lies about his whereabouts and actually gives me “clues” just to make me jealous. I am at wits end right now as he is trying to wiggle his way back into my life.
The last time I saw him was Halloween weekend, after an argument again about his whereabouts.
I need help to maintain no contact as he is texting me with the, “I’m a good guy story, I miss you” again. Of course we have an incredible sexual relationship and he swears he does not want anyone else, and has not been with another woman since June 2013.
My gut is telling me he is lying and I know I am right.
Unfortunately, I had a setback and saw him last weekend and during this week. Thank goodness he had a trip planned during our no contact and I am glad he is gone as I found myself making life plans with this man again.
He has been on his best behavior since I agreed to see him Saturday night. He spent the night Saturday and Sunday. He went to work Monday and Tuesday night and came over again making me dinner, flowers, my favorite wine and worked on my house. The whole nine yards. He left Thursday morning because he wanted to see his kids that he has not seen in over a year.
I am glad he is there as I need this time to regroup and make sense, crazy sense of this entire situation. I will continue to post and read on your Lovefraud because it’s so helpful to me. I know that I need to stay away from this man ”¦ he was talking about getting married again. He said lets write up a prenup and get married because he loves me, blah blah blah.
I DON’T TRUST HIM.
I left him alone in my home again. I need to end this once and for all.
Strong,
Awww, thanks for sharing all that, and about your ex hubby. I’m glad he was able to apologize to you at some point. Did he ever re-marry?
The ex path had a no contact order on him from his baby mama when I met him, but I did not know that. He said she put a restraining order on him from MA and he was in Florida.
I looked up if you can do for another state, I guess you can.
All talk and no action. Boy that rings a bell! 51 hang in with 30’s yep, 42 hangs with 20’s and 30’s. And ex girlfriend from forever ago too.
They are all cut from the same cloth it seems huh?
I’m going for a hearing test tomorrow, it’s been years. Hearing gets worse. It’s making me feel not so confident in getting a job.
We’ll see. I will get over this hump, or out of this slump.
I gotta get a job though, but I don’t want one out of desperation that sucks…
You are strong doing the NC order girl. Let us know how it all goes.
It’s for you… sometimes I think about him not contacting me, but it’s better he can’t.
They really are pointless people. Accept for teaching us about disorders.
Xoxoxoxo
Remembertoforget
How did your hearing test go??
SITC
Hi I scanned a lot of what you wrote Ive been through the “all words no action” the passive aggressive and the stalking. I went into my new therapist office (who worked for DCF) a year ago and said, “I am tired of being Victim and finding people who want to victimize me!” I wanted to stop this cycle and I can only control me right? Well, first part I learned was I was very hard on myself. I didn’t know that predators have a sick sense for the victims. Secondly, I have learned in the last few years that our court system is just as hard on us. Heck! Most of society is nothing has changed, we are overlooked unless we have money. An honest lawyers said to me once, “you want justice? You need money!” In CT there is ONE attorney for domestic violence. the fact that my kids and I are not in the hospital means we are not in an extreme case. My neighbors, my friends and my family do not understand and ask over and over “Why don’t you go to the courthouse and while a complaint!?” I got no where!
I just learned that October is national Domestic Violence Awareness Month!
🙂
Hi all,
The last 4 days have been the nightmare I have been in fear of…
The spath returns,,again.
This time I am still NC.
Court, all day an order granted without 1 question from the judge and a visit at my door last night and again tonight when I got home, both calls to 911 result.
Tonight I got a knock instead of a pounding with the keys and the spath was dressed in nice cloths and freshly shaven…we made eye contact through the blinds before I closed them and dialed 911..
Damn he is still thinking he can just show up….
He has not been served yet…
I fired the therapist and got some new resources today during my 5 hour long court day.
I know it’s domestic violence awareness month… I am watching Dateline about Bill Cosby…
UGH.
Calgon take me away.
SITC
SITC,
Wow- what a day you had is right!
Definitely a Calgon night.
You go with the protection order!
Crazy how he just comes on by like no big deal…
Hearing testing was thorough, and I ordered a hearing aid, and most likely the loss was from chemo years back.
I put it on a card, had to.
I feel better about finally doing it, and saw a lady at a busy salon today and I go see her Tues, she needs someone asap. I have an old friend that works there.
Fingers crossed! I feel a bit better Thank God.
I thought about the sicko today and yesterday, but it always ends up bad. He is no good.
I’ve been allowing the thoughts but they aren’t much these days!
It’s because i’m making changes in life and getting further and further away from the past.
Rest you, you’ve had some crazy days……
Xoxox ooo
Remembertoforget,
I was thinking there may be a nonprofit or other organization to assist you with the cost of your hearing aid.
Google and I’m sure there are many.
Most have an application process but it’s worth a shot.
I am so glad that you did the hearing test and ordered the aid as this will give you more confidence and they are so small now.
Hurrah on the potential new job!!!!!!
That’s awesome and amazing.
You WILL get it!
I feel different today…
More in control, regardless of the outcome.
I think of some of the horrible things he did to me and how it all became “normal” after awhile.
UGH…
I am so happy I am educated on this now WE can move forward and just stay away from the people who send warning bells off.
SITC
Remembertoforget,
One of my coworkers is hearing impaired and I just found out that she got a promotion while I have been off!
She is a connection on Linkedin and I messaged her to ask if she has any resources for you to assist with the cost of the aid.
I’ll let you know when she messages me back.
You sound so good right now, in a good space!
Yeah you!
SITC
SITC,
Hi. Happy Saturday!
So, I hope he doesn’t come knocking anymore…
It’s crazy the stuff we go through with the Spaths.
Like I say, I bet i’m lucky he went away. If I kept the email valid though, he would drop one every once in a while.
So, thank you for the hearing info- my dad said the same thing.
I think I will do it for the next one because i’m supposed to use 2.
Tuesday I should find out for sure about the job. I think it will be a go! Fingers crossed.
I’m looking forward to moving on, and leaving the past behind.
🙂
Xoxoxo
Remembertoforget,
Hi there.
Crazy train..toot toot, I’m off at this stop!
I am having guilt feelings now…I know.
That I would feel guilty about protecting myself.
No worries, I will never board that train ever again.
All is quiet today.
I heard a scuffle in my yard last night, they may may arrested him.IDK.
I am going to focus my energy on me and not looking up shit on him.
Oh brother..
I am reading Sandra Browns book that I should have read a long time ago…
Lord help us all.
It was the eye contact that did it..
He knows how to work a girls nerves, ya know?
So, yes my friend you are lucky that he is gone.
My friend, she said that Costco is a good place to buy them and she said that check Floridas state medicaid website, you may be eligible for the hearing aid through them.
I would look at some private organizations as some are funded by individuals.
The hearing impaired community is pretty on board with the laws.
Lots of Federal dollars go there.
You sound so good, I am happy we are all moving along…
You have really accomplished so much this week!
No looking back.
Hugs,
SITC
Women Who Love Psychopaths is available as an ebook for 9.95 through
http://saferelationshipsmagazine.com/
I was happy to find this today.
Better late then never!
I will be devouring this today.
SITC
Hi SITC,
I have been busy celebrating feeling well, and now I see that creepy guy has returned and is stalking you! Geez.
I have also had the situation of being stalked for about 3 years. No violence, or threats, just simply would not go away. He tried to volunteer at my work. I’d find little ‘gifts’ on my front porch. He would call and not leave a message. I once found a book, then valentines gift, then a text from an anonymous # about how he would always love me. Then he would be spotted loitering around my office property. This was from a person I dated, long distance, for 3 months. I only saw him 4 times in person!
This guy was after the devastating sociopath devalue and discard”..I had started online dating, and found ANOTHER one. The one that really turned my world upside down did not stalk me. He tried, initially, to keep me as one of his minions, but when I went no contact he moved on (very handsome guy, easy for him to find targets, Thank GOD!).
With this long-distance guy, because I had no evidence of threats, and he was VERY good at staying ‘anonymous’, I could not file a restraining order. But I did go to the human resources dept. at my work, and they called him (the head of HR used to be the chief of police in my city). He talked with the crazy man and told him they would contact the police if he ever tried to contact me again, or was seen on any of my employers properties. This was the 3rd year into his stalking, and he had once again been seen loitering around my job site.
I have not heard from him since. That was a year ago.
Here’s what I did. First I kept No Contact after I told him I didn’t want to be in a relationship. Then I sent him ONE email, about a year into the stalking. I told him in very simple terms that I was not interested in ever hearing from him again. I didn’t threaten or explain. I just said ‘no’, in one sentence. I then blocked him from my email and changed phone #’s, again. I kept that email as evidence, just in case.
This is a guy, who when I told him that I didn’t think I wanted to commit to a relationship with him, that we were not compatible (I had gone to visit him and it was clear something was not quite right in his life), he moved to my city and then told me I was the sociopath, and that his friends all agreed this was probably true. He told me he just wanted to help me, because I was obviously in need of it, and that he would always love me. He told me he couldn’t sleep or eat, and that he had PTSD because of me. He had ALL the language down. He knew just how to play the victim of narcissistic abuse. Barf.
This guy is a therapist! Another HUGE BARF!
He turned the tables right around and told me I was an online troll who preyed on men, like himself. That was the last time I spoke to him, because by this time I was savvy about how disordered people project their own agendas onto their targets. So it was easy to walk away, and NOT FEEL GUILTY.
If you feel even a twinge of guilt you LET THAT GO. You did nothing, and you have EVERY right and responsibility to protect and love yourself.
I know we need to pay attention to our fear, and take action to protect ourselves. But on the other side of that coin, we need to keep our situation in perspective so we can really be present (and not so anxious that we are spaced out and ineffective). Most of these disordered people do not harm their targets. Most of them ‘just’ want to make us scared, angry, and insecure. They want to show us who’s boss. So, whatever works for you to keep your anxiety to a minimum is MOST helpful. So that you can, as you have been!, continue to make solid choices for yourself.
The likelihood is that he will go away at some point. He will eventually snag another target or two, and ‘fingers crossed’, lose interest.
Please keep us informed of how you are doing. If you want to contact me, personally, let me know. What I mean to say is if it would be helpful to have someone who knows your situation, that you can stay in contact with, I am available. I had local friends who helped me feel safe. So I am offering this in that spirit.
I LOVE that book by Sandra Brown, and found it to be one of the most validating books. I am glad you discovered it.
xo, Slim
Slimone,
Thank you for taking the time, when you are feeling well to reply to my post.
I am on the verge of tears, good tears.
I will take you up on that offer of contacting you personally and that’s why I am crying because I have nobody to talk to that understands and can offer anything helpful.
I am so grateful.
I want, like any victim to tell my story so that I can heal.
I contacted a lady who is doing some youtube videos, anonymously telling her story and now she is “interviewing” others to tell her stories.
I wrote her an email this morning and even the small snippet which was a long email, telling my story helped me alot.
Then I come here and read your post!
Your words and advice mean so much to me,as do all the others.
I feel good.
I will send Donna an email so we can connect.
This means so much to me as I had to fire therapist #2 after I was hopeful at first, and things went south from there.
His advice of going for a walk in the park when one can’t even leave the house for days is something that I thought on my own.
A walk in the park is not helping at this point.
I trusted him too quickly just because he is a psychologist.
I will learn to interview the next one and hopefully not get to the place of panic where anyone will do.
I am still a work in progress.
Thank you, thank you!
SITC
Slimone,
Hello there.
Quick update.
Quiet all weekend, trying to keep anxiety down.
The decrease in caffeine has defiantly helped.
Trying to stay focused but still be watchful.
Yesterday was a good day, I got out and did stuff because I felt like doing it and that’s a great feeling let me tell you.
I was out side in my yard for the entire afternoon and it was nice to be outside sunning and grilling dinner.
I still don’t know if he has been served with the EOP and have called a few numbers today without success but that’s all I am doing regarding that today.
Your post about the stalkers…sigh…it’s so draining to be on edge all of the time and I am taking your advice to try to present so that I can think clearly.
I am hoping that since changed my phone number, made eye contact through the blinds Friday with me closing the blinds immediately and calling 911 has sealed the deal in his brain that I do not want to see or talk to him.
He is not the boss of me.
I am the boss of me.
Continue to feel well and again thank you for the support!
XOXO,
Stronginthecity
Strong…I am so glad you spent some time outside, at least trying to have a bit of ‘normal’ for yourself. I too felt completely on edge, for about a year, honestly, and it does improve. It totally pisses me off that some people are so sick that they spend their time frightening other people and trying to ruin their lives. Life really isn’t fair.
I will let Donna know it is Ok to share my email address and we can connect.
Slim
Slimone and all in need of some maintaining NC validation..
Excellent radio interview I wanted to share..
More education!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mentalhealthnews/2015/06/29/christine-louis-de-canonville-what-is-no-contact-with-a-narcissistic-abuser
I can FINALLY see the light at the end of the tunnel.
XOXO,
SITC
Strong,
I’m happy fOr you- you will heal from it all!
It must be hard knowing that he pokes around by your house. So unsettling.
It’s just a process,and takes a while. You know.
I don’t even know what my feelings are anymore in regards to the ex. Too much other crap to worry about, but he still lingers in the shadows of my mind.
Keep doing what your doing.
One day at a time.
Remembertoforget,
Hi and thanks for the reply!
Good luck on the interview tomorrow!
If you get a chance to listen to the radio interview I sent it talks a lot about spaths in the workplace.
It has been so helpful and so much great advice given on the workplace bully AND how to deal with it!
It will all be ok,even with the court papers not even being served as of this afternoon..
Whatever…so much other stuff going on!
You sound really good and focused!
Power of us!
XOXO,
SITC
Strong,
I’m so happy you’re taking care of yourself! Sounds like you are making the right moves and took action against your ex at the right time. Hopefully all will get better after the papers are served.
There’s nothing quite like the fear of stalking. I’m happy to report I no longer fear death, it’s just an annoyance now. I feel like it’s been ages to get to this point! Over a year of stalking can really get to a person!
Keep doing you. We have come so far!
KeepingOn,
Thank you, I am defiantly feeling so much better and thinking clearly;so much more like me everyday.
I still do not know if he has been served but I spoke with that court advocate yesterday and she said it was not yet in her system 3 days later.
So frustrating but she gave me the number to call to speak with the servers and give an updated address.
This being is a major US city is so frustrating as service is supposed to be within 24 hours and the 3 phone numbers I called to check the status 2 just rang, no answer and 1 had a voicemail.
The court advocate told me not to focus too much on him being served…ok.
I am trying really but I know him and what makes him tick.
I know I should be watchful but knowing if he is served matters to me.
I have been stalked by him for over 4 years…my therapist(fired now) balked when I tols him people can be bought for 20 bucks to drive by and see if the lights are on.
This happened to me and the spath told me so.
He the spath has never been held accountable for his actions, ever.
Not even by his ex wife who he treated terribly for over 25 years and had his children has not turned him in when he broke the permanent no contact order she has written in to her divorce papers.
He violated it over and over again and then mocked her.
He is a very mentally ill person.
It is so wearing, annoying and illegal.
Thank you for the validation.
It is so helpful.
XOXO,
Stronginthecity
SITC,
I clicked on the page but I have to charge my phone.
I’m fighting a lil depression and worry- fear of the unknown.
Yes, I hope the lady calls me tomorrow.
Fingers crossed.
xoxoooo
Remember,
Please keep fighting that fear and worry. You’ve got this! I’m sending prayers your way tomorrow. Even if things don’t work out I KNOW better things are in store for you.
You have been through so much I can tell from your posts (even prior to your recent work troubles) that you’ve seemed more down. Remember, this too shall pass.
I want to personally thank you for being such a positive and authentic support to me for so many months. I may not post as often anymore but please know my thoughts and heart are sending you the love and positivity I feel you truly deserve.
You’re taking care of you. Yourself, your work, your health. You’re doing well and better in so many ways. Things are going to be okay. Better than okay! God and the universe work in mysterious ways. Unfortunately they’re not always pleasant! At least that’s what I remind myself…
Hugs. Xoxo
Remembertoforget,
Hi there!
How are you feeling today?
SITC