While there are no sure-proof ways to avoid exploitive partners (short of entering the monastery), we can reduce our risk of getting too deeply involved with them. Why do I say too deeply? Because if getting involved with an exploiter at all isn’t bad enough, getting in too deeply is the disaster we hope to avoid.
One of the best (and most under-utilized) strategies to protect yourself is to properly“vet” your prospective (or new) partner. What I have to say ahead is especially applicable if you’ve been burned by a sociopath previously, and even moreso if you suspect in yourself a tendency to enter relationships with bad-news characters.
What do I mean by “vetting” your partner? I mean, of course, getting to know him as thoroughly as possible before deepening your investment in him. But here’s the rub: it’s the getting to know him through others.
By others I mean his friends, family, relatives and, indeed, anyone in his social orbit from whom you stand a chance to learn, or confirm, something meaningful about him.
And so while we can agree that no strategy alone guarantees protection against exploitation, I’d propose that vetting your partner intelligently increases your protection, and is much wiser than depending exlusively on him (especially if he’s exploitive) to furnish a candid history of himself.
In other words, your partner’s history of himself will be much less informative than, and dangerously incomplete without, others’ complementary history of him.
How exactly do you vet a prospective partner? It’s true you could take any number of draconian measures—like hiring a team of private investigators—to assist you in the process and, indeed, there may be circumstances where you feel this is necessary.
However, I’m going to restrict myself in this discussion to vetting strategies that might be described as “natural—”meaning, you have access to them in the natural course of your evolving relationship.
And it begins with several absolutes: for instance, you absolutely must meet his family. You must meet his friends. And if he has kids, you must meet them, too.
Really, your aim to meet anyone and everyone in his life from whom it’s feasible to derive, piece by piece, a more complete, validating (or invalidating) profile of him.
If he has no family with whom he’s in contact, and no friends, or, if he has them but discourages you from meeting them, or, worse, is unwilling to let you meet them, well then”¦Houston, we have a problem.
If his parents are in fact deceased (and he hasn’t killed them), there’s nothing doing there. But what about his siblings? And other relatives? And, I repeat, his kids (whether younger or older)? And vitally, his friends!?
My point is that it’s on you to ensure that you neither confine yourself, nor let him confine you, into discovering him within an informational vacuum. I can’t stress this point enough: you absolutely must not allow yourself to be confined, in your discovery of who he is, within an informational vacuum.
Translation, and again at the risk of repeating myself: sooner than later, you’ll want to meet as many people as possible in his life, past and present, who, collectively, can shed light on who your partner is.
Then, if he stonewalls you; if in anyway he restricts or censors your access to feeback through the human beings who’ve comprised, and comprise, his social network, well then”¦I repeat, Houston, we’ve got a very serious problem.
And so, for instance if, in your efforts to move the vetting process forward at a natural, efficient pace, he strings you along and is saying, week after week, I’ll introduce you to my family, just not quite yet, baby”¦I’ll know when the time’s right, trust me”¦.this portends disaster.
Similarly, if he says, ostensibly to protect you, “Trust me, baby, you don’t want to meet my family. They’re a bunch of lunatics,” trust me: you’ll want to meet them. He may be right—they may be lunatics, but you’ll want to meet them to assess the risk that he’s one, too.
Because when his brother Billy Bob, who’s had a few too many pops, tells you on an unscheduled tour of the family property, “Phil tell you how me and him used to set them cats on fire and watch ’em burn to a crisp? Damn, them was the good old days,” this feedback just might not square with Phil’s having told you what an animal lover he was as a kid?
In other words, even dysfunctional, unhinged family and friends can cough up really IMPORTANT information.
Like this, from his mentally challenged, but not necessarily delusional, sister, Crystal: “Good luck with Harold. You seem nice, honey. Maybe now he’s got a girlfriend, he’ll keep his hands off me.”
Okaaay, Crystal”¦thanks for the blessing.
And please, if he has no longterm friendships, do yourself a favor: Don’t rationalize this. Ask yourself, say, hmmm”¦why?
Why does this 40-year-old man have no longterm friendships? What could explain the fact that he has no contact with anyone from his past? (Incidentally, “They’re dead to me,” isn’t a reassuring explanation, especially when a lot of people, it seems, are dead to him.)
It’s probably unncessary to get mired down in defining precisely how far back you’ll want to mine his past? Maybe it’s unnecessary to go all the way back to elementary school? Or even junior high? But what about high school? College? Old colleagues? Cousins? Hell, even old prison buddies (sorry, I know that’s not funny).
Speaking of prison, here’s a concept I ask you to entertain: if you should happen to establish, through your due diligence, that your Romeo has a prison record, how can I say this diplomatically? Remember the books See Dick RUN! See Jane RUN!
Well this circumstance—a prison history—dictates that, just like Dick and Jane, you run! Because it’s amazing what a good, smart, well-timed flight can protect you from!!
Back to the longterm friendship matter: If, in the course of the vetting process, you discover that, alas, your new partner has, indeed, maintained friendships since childhood, or made and maintained solid friendships as an adult, this is a good, positive sign. Is it certification of his integrity and authenticity? Of course not. But it belongs in the plus column of your assessment. It’s the kind of discovery, among others, you’re glad to make.
Let’s say your new partner’s alleged best friend and, for that matter, all his important “peeps,” allegedly live scattered across the country, thereby, he laments, complicating your opportunities to meet them face to face. What now?
Well, where geography deters you from breaking bread with them in person, technology to the rescue! Use skype! Talk to them, see them, interact with them on the computer! At the very least, talk to them on the phone!
There are plenty of feasible ways, in other words, in this technology-enabling world, to connect with those in his life whose geographical situations make for impractical face to face meetings. And so, if he keeps you at arms’ length from them, he’s telling you something very ominous that you need to heed carefully and proactively.
Let me stress: you aren’t just evaluating the dish you get on him from those who’ve known, and know, him (ostensibly) best; you are also evaluating the dishers! You are evaluating the evaluators!
Who are those who comprise his social network? What are their values? What’s their integrity level, as best your instincts tell you? Do they strike you as—even if not admirable in their own right—credible character references?
The answers to these questions matter a lot. It may be nice that Don, his best buddy since third grade, swears on his own family’s life that your boyfriend’s character and integrity are beyond reproach. But if Don’s done time for armed robbery, the credibility of his glowing reference suffers.
You are also evaluating how your new partner relates within his social circle. Does he maintain his “integrity” around them? Does he treat you with a consistent level of attentiveness and respect regardless of the audience? Conversely, does he become a different person around different people, revealing unexpected, disarming sides of himself?
Again, please remember: The vetting process I’m suggesting needn’t be, or seem, formal or contrived; rather, it should be entirely unforced, entirely natural. And your new partner should enable this process by welcoming you into the lives of those with whom he’s shared, and shares, his life!
If he doesn’t make this process natural and seamless—if he filibusters or stonewalls you—this is, I repeat, a serious problem.
What are you looking for in all of this? You are looking to confirm that, by and large, others’ history and experience of him line up with yours! Because if they don’t align, that’s a fatal sign. (Yes, I’m channeling my inner Johnny Cochrane!) If they don’t align, that’s a fatal sign.
So what do you with reasonably unfettered access to these valuable, potential Judas figures in his life? At the risk of overkill, you listen to them, listen to their stories of him. As we’ve established, they will tell you stories. And if they don’t tell you stories, you can ask for stories. And when he says, glowering at his buddy, “Let’s not go there, Al,” you know that’s a place you want to go.
And when he says, even more sinisterly, “I’m not f’ing kidding, Al. Let’s not go there,” you know that’s exactly one of the many places you may need to go.
Sometime the stories aren’t verbalized, they’re just implicit; and sometimes the stories come in the form of questions, like, why doesn’t Tom have relationships with any of his kids?
Listen for the excuses and heed their meanings. Their mother poisoned them against me. Even worse, their mothers poisoned them against me.
In other words, if he’s been married more than once, and hates all his ex’s, and all his ex’s hate him, and all his kids hate him, then 2+2 doesn’t equal he, poor guy, has been repeatedly victimized.
Beware of the partner who’s a lousy parent. While it’s not a guarantee he’ll be a lousy partner, it’s a warning that the same self-centeredness that corrupted his relationships with his kids will surface in his relationship with you.
More generally, beware of the partner who has a history of discarding others in his life. You want to assess this history very carefully, because this is a history that will repeat itself, you can be quite sure of that.
You may be the passion flavor of the month, or year, even five years, but when the edge of his passion fades, watch out. He will cast you off as he’s cast off the sundry others in his life, perhaps even his kids from an earlier first marriage.
Do not be fooled for one second into believing that you are who he’s been looking for all his life. He may delude himself, again and again, with this fantasy, but it’s your obligation to yourself not to collude in this delusion.
(I thank Lovefraud poster Silvermoon, who, while she may or may not subcribe to my ideas, sparked my thinking for this article with her extremely stimulating feedback. As always, my use of male gender pronouns in this article was for convenience’s sake, and not to suggest that females are exempted from the attitudes and behaviors discussed. This article is copyrighted © 2010 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Outlier,
Yea, you are the same kind of money-hungry, nasty, parentally abusing, nasty piece of work that I am, and if people don’t believe that, they can ask our relatives! 🙂
The smear campaign is relentless and there are some people who will believe anything negative about anyone that someone wants to throw out there. I’m about past the point of caring. My egg donor took away my Power of Attorney, though, and you know, after all these years of doing things for her I realized that I can’t legally do those things any more.
“soooo sorry, I can’t be your slave any more….well, yes, I know that the psychopaths who convinced you I was a monster and a liar are in jail now for swindling you and they aren’t there at your beck and call any more, but I am NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE for you, you took away my power of attorney, and so that ends it, I am no longer OBLIGATED, OR RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU, and I’m soooo sorry but don’t want the power of attorney back so, see ya later, and BTW, I don’t care about your money, never did…and so you can use it to hire someone to take care of you—I’m done doing it out of love and caring for free. Bye, now! Have a nice life”
When you get to the point that you realize that your soul is NOT FOR SALE and let the Ps have the money, the inheritence or whatever, then there isn’t any way that they can hurt you any more.
It is a pity that psychopaths will use some poor old lady or poor old man and take advantage of them to get their monjey, but I realized that I did all I could to protect my egg donor from them, but she did not want protection from them, she wanted to punish me the only way she thought she could and that was to accuse me of being dishonest and trying to get her money and because she had the Psychopaths to cheer her on and to volunteer to be her slaves for the money, she thought she was in the CAT BIRD SEAT! She thought she had absolute control with them to do her dirty work and them to bow and scrape to her—then they turned on her like a badger! Oh, well, too bad for her. She jumped ship and got on a worm eaten ship she thought was better and then blasted the old one out of the water and now she is sinking and I will not row in to rescue her in my life boat. Not room in my boat for pirates, or their dupes.
It’s funny OxDrover – it’s difficult to come up with something unique on LF, because it’s been said before, experienced. There is such a common thread that runs through us all.
We can list the top 5 things we have been accused of.
We can list the top 5 things we used to have (before crossing paths with S) but no longer have (during/after abuse).
We can list the top 5 things we have learned about ourselves.
We can list the top 5 things we love about ourselves (even during before and after abuse)
We can all list the top 5 things we value in humanity
I can confidently guess we will come up with similar answers.
Joy says: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 @....... 8:57am
And truthfully, nobody ever wants to hear it. We didn’t. They don’t. People have to experience it for themselves.
This is a blow, especially since it is the truth. By your statement do you mean that the people we want desperately to hear and listen to us won’t? Because nobody ever wants to hear negative things? Bad mouthing people is negative energy exchanged.
I sent a really long correspondence to my family about the allegations, documenting what I have done for the parents (as if they need to know and would be able to notice being so far away and frankly not giving a sh!t). Their response? Well, if anyone can detect one from my family, please send answers on postcard. Their response was to maintain silence, avoidance, my brother (who helped fuel the POA allegation with sis and his bully wife) said that if I sent any more letters like that he’d have me locked up. He changed like a flicker of switch. He and my sis would “block” any attempts by me to gain POA. (my parents have complete control over who they nominate, but my family’s only knowledge of me is elder financial abuse.
the neighbour who started it all. It all boils down to her. How? Revenge. Lifetime’s worth. My father had her disciplined for abusing her patients. She has effectively been responsible for breaking relations one by one by one over the years. What was a great unit is now broken. Cross her path, appear weak and you are her puppet and she watches from a safe distance hearing it all unfold via my spath sis. The revenge is essentially aimed at my father and has effectively worked. This neighbour abused my parents; then accuses me of abusing my parents (and her); and maintains this by keeping in close contact with sis.
All I can see as a solution is 2 things. Not that we relocate, but that either sis or neighbour (ideally both) are no longer on this earth. Because whilst either or both of them are around, life is controlled and steered according to their malicious behaviour. I know if sis didn’t exist, I could care for my parents in peace, but as long as that neighbour is around she can also contribute spectacularly.
Do not remove/eliminate the target.
Remove/eliminate the sociopath.
I have the one thing my spath sis or neighbour never have/had: a loving relationship with my parents. The neighbour was abused badly by her father apparently. She ended up the way she is.
Btw when I turned 30 I decided I won’t accept a single penny of any will. The thought of sharing the money with the family I have made me uncomfortable. And the money means nothing. The strong bond I have with my parents during their lifetime means something. None of my siblings have a relation with their parents (unless youcount 20 secs on the phone on christmas day)
Always learning amazing things on here. You validate me, and I hope in small ways I validate you.
Outlier, By my statement I meant several things. When you are blinded by love, you tend to want to stay that way. It’s easy to ignore your instincts and even easier to ignore warnings from others. We all want to believe that we are special so maybe he treated HER that way, But I’m not her. He says he LOVES me, and she was a horrible person since I’m not horrible, it’ll work with me. We learn best by experience. Sometimes it’s the only way we learn. And yes when we try to warn others off of a SP we appear suspect. What is our problem? What is our agenda? Why are we bitter, angry, negative? Because they are so good at the public illusion with so many, it is we who appear crazy. Until the adoring ones get burned and then they have the AH! moment we wished to give them ahead of time. Plus we stay engaged in the SP’s lives and drama by staying interested in what and who they are up to now. How can that help us disengage and move on? In my opinion, it can’t help us at all. And we need to put ourselves first maybe for the first time ever. It is my belief that most of us are so other oriented that it made us easy pickings for the SP’s that hurt us. Just my thoughts. But I have found great truth in my beliefs. And since I’m well into healing, I think I have done what was right for me. Maybe not be best for all of us, but definitely for me, it was:)
Joy, and Outlier,
Its like a merrygo round,–when we choose to get off, and stay off, they have to round and round by themselves.
We are out of their sad, abusive, sick games. The minute we hop back on the merrygoround, all of the abuse, “she says ,he says”manipulation starts all over again. let them go round and round on that dam merrygoround without us!For EVEr if necessary!!
We ARE OUT of their sick games, as long as we stay OFF!
Love, and good luck! gem.XX
Dear Outlier,
I hope to heck that you are able to keep that relationship with your parents. I Actually THOUGHT (denial is wonderful!) I had a relationship with my egg donor, but looking at it through the eyes of TRUTH (Yep, Joy, I sure did NOT want to see the truth!) Facing the truth, and thereby realizing that my egg donor as well as my p-son are DANGEROUS and that I had no real relationship to either one. So I had to give up my FANTASY relationship which only existed in my own deluded MIND, sort of like the woman, Janine, who posted her article today about her “fantasy” man did not even exist! My relationship didn’t exist any more than hers did! It was just as much a fantasy.
I hope you are in some way able to contain the venom that your sibs and your neighbor are spewing and that your parents are protected from the worst of it.
I tried to hard to protect my egg donor from the psychopaths, only to realize that she didn’t want protection from them, that she was using them to whip me into line.
It was only after her “bomb” thrown against me exploded in her hand and she then realized she was alone in a sinking ship that she tried to lure me back in to save her, ON HER TERMS of course, and that was I would continue to support my P son who tried to kill me, and pretend that she didn’t sabatoge me, punish me, brow beat and emotionally torture me. I played that game most of my life, I was taught that was my role in life, to protect the family predator—nah, I’ll pass. I hope that you can distance yourself and your parents too from these evil people and not stay in the middle between people who are shooting at each other! Good luck Outlier and God bless you and your parents. I am very sorry that they have such offspring. I definitely know what it is to have toxic offspring.
This article is 10 years late for me! Never was allowed to meet his parents, his kids, his ex-wife always made him out to be the bad guy (hello!), no friends, didn’t want to meet my kids, family or friends- need I say more. Talk about being kept in a vacum. I enabled this whole situation and never knew it. What a relief it is over, and everything makes sense as to his strange behavior.
Great article Steve – I can relate to the analogies in all your articles. Hindsight is 20/20!
Feel more rattled than ever. Took daugther on vacation for a coupla days. He called begging me “to find it in my heart to talk to him bec. I have always been the rock in the relationship and he really wants my advice.”
Got his lawyer’s counterproposal, and I feel very fearful that he’ll try to destroy me financially–take half my teacher’s pension, my sweat and blood that I’ve worked so hard to earn, and I am sure he’ll fight me not to keep the house no matter what.
His lawyer asks I consider at least a month of therapy if I don’t want to reconcile at least to find closure and acceptance since he is now learning anxiety mgt. in his therapy.
And I ask myself if all this worth it, and doubt myself so much.
Worried so much didn’t even enjoy vacation, came home early.
I FEEL SO WEAK AND INCOMPETENT TO FACE LIFE ALONE. I feel suddenly that I’ll be destroyed without him.
Dancing,
Where is the part that will be destroyed by him?
WTF about that nonsense from his lawyer?
That is a ploy.
YOu don’t want to reconcile.
YOu are NO CONTACT because he is a SPATH.
Where is the opinion of your attorney????
Your choice to worry instead of enjoy the vacation and your child.
Your choice to take the call.
What is going to be so good about having him back?
Do you think he would be different? Really?
Get with your lawyer, focus on the non emotional aspects of the divorce!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is about dividing assets. And custody of the children. And their support.
Period.
So maybe there is going to be a fight. Go ahead: FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FIGHT HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get with your attorney, get your best legal advice and set your warrior to battle FOR YOU.
Get clear on what IS destructive!
Where is the focus on YOU and your children?
Dancing, I urge you to get hold of your fear and get focused on your children and your future.
This guy is playing hard. Not for love, but to WIN. Not for you or your daughter, but for himself.
Its different.
He’s using every hook he has.
Stop listening to him and listen to your attorney. Do not, Do not step into any trap he sets for you. Don’t do it!
Dear Dancing..
I have been there; feeling weak and not wanting to be alone. Do you have a counsellor? I encourage you to find someone to give you strength now. AND do not speak with him!!!
If he is so nasty that he is taking everything…WHY would you want him? He is trying to wear you down and destroy you now…please go no contact and THAT will make you strong. YOU must set the boundaries and stand firm.
You WILL get stronger once you get away ,believe me…or you will be destroyed. I promise it gets better and you will make it. Don’t give up!
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Living with the choices we’ve made
By Steve Kalas
Published: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:18 AM HST
People decide to marry the same way they decide to divorce. People decide to divorce the same way they decide to marry. In both cases, you spend weeks, months, even years adding up the pros and cons. You weigh options and possibilities. You examine your values.
And then you knock the whole thing off the table. And you simply choose. In the end, the deliberations pale, because, even as you choose, there are people in exactly those same circumstances not getting married. Not getting a divorce.
There is no such thing, ultimately, as “the reason I had to get married” … “the reason I had to get a divorce.” You have reasons, yes. But, in the end, there is only the choice itself.
In choices like this, recriminating doubts and uncertainties must be our companions. Because we’re human. Because we’re not God. It’s like playing poker with a dealer who is making up the rules as he goes along.
You either put your money on the table or you don’t.
A college kid sits on the couch in my office, working through his parents’ divorce. “My mom is certain they could have made it,” he says. “My dad is certain they could not.” And I say: “Neither of your parents will ever know who is right. Do you know why?”
Because they got a divorce. They chose.
The woman sits on the couch in my office and says that, even as she walked down the aisle at her wedding, she was filled with doubts. Can I do this? Will I screw it up? Will he? Can I trust him? And then she said to herself, “I shouldn’t be doing this if this is still what I’m thinking!”
And I remind her that’s the only way anyone walks down an aisle to make wedding vows. It’s not a sign that something is terribly wrong. It’s a sign that you know what’s going on. I tell her that it’s not dissimilar to what most women are thinking in their fourth hour of labor: “I’m not sure I can do this!” But she is doing it. And she won’t know if she can until she does it.
Reminds me of the moments in the locker room before my first varsity basketball game. I told the coach I was nervous. Scared. “I would hope so,” he said with a commanding smile. “That means you’re ready!”
Yeah. Thanks for that.
Now a man on the couch. A few days ago, he asked his wife to choose. He added the ultimatum that, in refusing to choose, he would interpret the indecision as a decision for “no.” She won’t choose. She thinks it’s unfair for him to ask her to choose.
So he tells her he has decided for divorce. And now he castigates himself because maybe he should have waited. Maybe he should have been more patient. The ultimatum probably has ended whatever hope remained. If any hope remained. How can he know if this moment came from a place of strength, or did he recklessly feign strength to hide a weakness?
And I tell him three things: Yes, maybe you should have been more patient and waited, and, you have spent the past two years being patient … and, nobody knows when it’s time to choose divorce.
You just choose.
My youngest son is Joseph. Age 8. Now, let me be clear: I really like Joseph. I’m not going to give him back. Couldn’t understand my life without him. But …
I wouldn’t enthusiastically recommend bringing a third child into an 11-year marriage eight years behind the last child. Because doing so, while not necessarily a bad thing, tends to turn the marital development clock backward, forcing a couple to put off beckoning marital steps and rewalking steps already taken. And couples who push to rewalk those steps sometimes have unconscious reasons for not proceeding into the next chapter of the marriage. Not saying it can’t work, just that it’s potentially problematic.
But, I chose. And perseverating about that choice now is a waste of time. The only thing I can know is that I chose. And the only thing to do, once having chosen, is to live with those choices responsibly, faithfully and with integrity.
As with all choices.
Steven Kalas is a behavioral health consultant and counselor at Clear View Counseling Wellness Center in Las Vegas and the author of “Human Matters: Wise and Witty Counsel on Relationships, Parenting, Grief and Doing the Right Thing” (Stephens Press). Contact him at skalas@reviewjournal.com.