When people realize that that they are involved with a sociopath, the standard advice from Lovefraud is that they should, as quickly as possible, cut the predator out of their lives. That means no phone calls, no e-mails, no texts, and certainly no in-person meetings. It means No Contact.
Of course, there are times when this is difficult, as when our reader works with the sociopath, or they have children together. In these cases, they need to implement No Contact as best they can. But let’s now talk about situations where it is possible to get rid of the person, such as in a dating relationship.
What is the best way to establish No Contact? Clearly, firmly and permanently.
The rules of No Contact
The book called The Gift of Fear, by Gavin de Becker, devotes several pages to the topic of rejecting an unwanted suitor, and these pages are among the most helpful of the entire book.
De Becker writes in the context of a woman who decides she doesn’t want to be involved with a man. Do not, the author says, try to “let him down easy.” Here’s what he writes:
One rule applies to all types of unwanted pursuit: Do not negotiate. Once a woman has made the decision that she doesn’t want a relationship with a particular man, it needs to be said one time, explicitly. Almost any contact after that rejection will be seen as negotiation ”¦ If you tell someone ten times that you don’t want to talk to him, you are talking to him—nine times more than you wanted to.
Here are more points that de Becker makes in the book:
- If you get 30 messages from a pursuer, and finally call him back to say, “stop calling,” he learns that after 30 attempts, he will get a response.
- If you make an excuse like, “I don’t want to be in a relationship right now,” the stalker assumes you will want to be in a relationship later, and keeps calling.
- If you say, “You’re a great guy, but I’m not the one for you,” the stalker thinks you’re just confused, and will come around in time.
- Never explain why you don’t want a relationship. If you give a reason, it gives him something to challenge.
- A nice or delicate rejection is often taken as affection.
“The way to stop contact is to stop contact,” de Becker says. “I suggest one explicit rejection and after that absolutely no contact. If you call the pursuer back, or agree to meet, or send him a note, or have somebody warn him off, you buy another six weeks of his unwanted pursuit.”
Giving in
What happens if you’re wishy-washy about No Contact? Not long ago, Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader who we’ll call “Lenore.”
I literally had to count the days that went by as I refused contact with him, and on day 120, I celebrated because I felt healed. Well, on day 121, he emailed me, and against my better judgment, I emailed him back. He told me he had been in therapy, he realized what he had done wrong, he was on medication.
I was cautious and wary, and decided, amidst warnings of concern from my friends and family, to perhaps work on a friendship again. We worked on being friends for a few weeks, and everything was great and fine. I felt in control of the situation.
Then his old behaviors started creeping in. He installed a GPS app on my phone so he could track my whereabouts. He began calling and texting incessantly, and flipping out if I didn’t answer right away. The verbal and psychological abuse had begun again. Fortunately, this time it did not escalate to physical abuse. He began lying again, gaslighting and acting erratically, and began seeing other women on the side. Last night, it once again became too much and I told him not to contact me again because my heart and my spirit couldn’t take any more pain, and his inconsistency is so bad for my son.
So today begins Day One again without him. I am writing you today to tell you that your no contact advice was the best advice I didn’t take. For 120 days I went without him. It took a while, but by day 90 I was happy and free and at peace. Now I am back to square one.
No Contact is the path to healing from an entanglement with a sociopath. The stronger you can be about No Contact, the faster you will recover.
My former S has been in jail for two months now. The first week he was there I accepted his call and informed him that I no longer loved him after realizing that the man I loved was a fake. He got married while we were together and after being in jail for two months, he still calls me. Luckily I have had enough strength to ignore the calls. I am however confused because after we broke up(prior to me realizing that he was an S), his mother befriended me on Facebook and I’ve contemplated removing her and lately she has become REALLY friendly with me. I’m starting to question if I should also lose contact with her because it is too close to him and I am interested to know if she has some evil motive in being so intrigued with my life on FB.
breathless;
Oxdrover is probably a better source of advice and the only thing I say is what’s in the kittens is sometimes in the cat.
She may have some rose-colored vision of her son, and is simply using you for reasons known only to her.
Behind_Blue_Eyes:
Don’t know if you’re reading tonight, but if you are, this is for you and your question about whether you should go to the concert or not. I’ve been giving this topic a lot of thought lately, and thought I’d share what I learned along the way.
For starters, I agree whole-heartedly with the advice to newbies to avoid triggers — and whatever people, places or things those are — you have got to avoid them like the plague.
But, after awhile, and a distance down the recovery highway, I began to realize that I was tired of defining my life around my S-ex and whatever crap he might pull. I was tired of avoiding places I wanted to go and people I wanted to see. So, I decided that I had to create some new memories with those people, places and things and make them mine again.
My first time doing this was going to my family’s home in the Greek isles in the summer of 2009. As those who know my story know, the previous year I had taken my S-ex on what was supposed to not only be a romantic chance for us to get back on track, but a chance for me to share a place that was very special to me with him. My S-ex promptly ripped off my neighbor’s villa — on my birthday, no less — and made the entire trip, which I covered for him, incidentally, a living hell.
So, the following trip was a test-run. I invited an old friend one week, my new boyfriend the second week, met up with old friends and had a blast. I actually performed a purification ceremony to rid my villa of any bad karma that idiot may have left behind.
My second chance came a few weeks later when I was back in the States and a dear friend called me and told me she was going to be in the US on business and wanted to go out to dinner someplace with a WOW factor. I knew just the place. Unfortunately, it was also the place I had my first date with my S-ex (the only thing he ever paid for) and a totally miserable evening with the S-ex toward the end of our so-called relationship.
We walked in. My friend, my boyfriend, and her friend were all thrilled with my choice. I was out of work at the time, but I can tell you that the wonderful memories I have of that evening and “repopulated” that restaurant with were worth every penny.
Then came the real test — my boyfriend and I went away for a weekend to another place that was special to me — and which the S-ex had absolutely destroyed. When I got the keys to our room I almost fainted — it was the same room all those horrible memories of the S-ex had taken place in. Well, the weekend was fabulous. I completely obliterated the bad memories.
What I finally realized is that I had taken control of my life and my feelings and was not going to let the S-ex control me one more minute or consume one more minute of my life. Any time I spent letting memories of the S-ex into my head was a waste of time that could better be spent with friends, lovers, people, places, doing things — the list is endless.
And yes, the day came when I actually crossed paths with the S-ex. I didn’t recognize him — the drugs and bloat had done a number on him. He tried to engage me. I just politely said that I was meeting friends. Excuse me. No explanations. No information about me life. No nothing. I came to the place where I realized I no longer gave a damn about him. I don’t give anything about him.
So, point of this story is only you can decide whether or not you’re ready to start reclaiming your life from your S-ex. From where I stand you’ll be with friends. If you’ve been to the venue before with S-ex, reclaim your good memories by making some new memories with good friends.
One way or another, hard as it is, everybody is going to ultimately have to decide if they’re going to let the S-ex keep controlling them or if they’re going to take back the control himself.
Matt;
I do agree with your reclaimmation process and in certain ways I have done that. I regularly go to the place I met my x-spath and have no problems with that. But that was knowing there would be little chance of seeing him.
If the Saturday concert was the easier one to attend transportation wise, I would go. However, given the 90 minute transit time, and the fact that I will be mountain biking all day Saturday and I won’t get home from that until 6:30 PM, practicality says stay away.
Matt;
PS the most prominent player on my favorite hockey team shares his last name. I no longer cringe when I hear it!
Behind Blue Eyes.
I hear you on the photo. I’m STILL such a sucker for mine. It’s RIDICULOUS
I HAVE to say that while I’m STILL completely hooked, I am getting pretty darn tired of being obsessed with this.
I go between NC for the sake of ME And NC for the sake of thinking that maybe NC will make HIM realize that he can’t live without me. COME ON!
Is think I need one of Oxy’s whacks on the head with a frying pan.
Peace Sistahs
Breathless – The mother may be getting your daily routine, habit’s etc..from your facebook page so she can break into your house when your not home == dont laugh == happen’s all the time. Cellphone’s and computer’s are a predator’s ‘boogyman’s’ best friend..OH MY..
StillHaveMySoul;
“I hear you on the photo.”
I thought I deleted all of them from my laptop. This one was in a different folder.
“Is think I need one of Oxy’s whacks on the head with a frying pan.”
I agree and I am going to do it myself. He looks “sad” in all his pictures. Maybe its just an act, like the dog with big eyes.
But instead of the frying pan, maybe I will just take a look at the filth on his favorite bareback porn website.
Dear Breathless,
I agree, if it is a kitten it has a cat for a parent! UNFRIEND her ASAP and do not have any contact with ANYONE connected to him. There is nothing but a lose-lose situation in having contact with anyone who has anything to do with them.
Whatever her motive, she is NOT your friend no matter how “nice” she is to you. STOP the information highway COLD–either going toward him or away from him to you! NO CONTACT, means NADA, ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH NONE AT ALL!@....... DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.
The only legitimate reason for contact of any kind with a psychopath is co-parenting, and that only through e mails or MyFamilyWizard, or the courts. THEY WILL USE ANYTHING they can find to stab you with. DO NOT LET DOWN YOUR GUARD. It will ONLY lead (eventually if not sooner) to YOUR PAIN AND REGRET!
Pity is a great bait that they use for their HOOKS. If you start to pity them, feel sorry for them, or have empathy for them, sit down and write a list of all the nasty things they have done for you, to you, etc. quit thinking of the FAKE GOOD THINGS because it is all fake, all with an ulterior motive. DO NOT TRUST ANYONE WHO HAS PROVEN THEY ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY!
@hens….if we lived in the same state that would make sense, but we don’t. The funny thing is that we’ve never met each other face to face. I don’t know, maybe she likes me, but part of me believes that she too carries the S gene if that is even genetic. I don’t know, it’s just weird because she and my S’s wife are also friends on FB and the wife now knows that her hubby was engaged to me when she married him, so I would think the mother’s loyalty would be to her. I know if it were my mother-in-law I’d be a little upset that she was befriending my hubby’s ex, so who knows.