When people realize that that they are involved with a sociopath, the standard advice from Lovefraud is that they should, as quickly as possible, cut the predator out of their lives. That means no phone calls, no e-mails, no texts, and certainly no in-person meetings. It means No Contact.
Of course, there are times when this is difficult, as when our reader works with the sociopath, or they have children together. In these cases, they need to implement No Contact as best they can. But let’s now talk about situations where it is possible to get rid of the person, such as in a dating relationship.
What is the best way to establish No Contact? Clearly, firmly and permanently.
The rules of No Contact
The book called The Gift of Fear, by Gavin de Becker, devotes several pages to the topic of rejecting an unwanted suitor, and these pages are among the most helpful of the entire book.
De Becker writes in the context of a woman who decides she doesn’t want to be involved with a man. Do not, the author says, try to “let him down easy.” Here’s what he writes:
One rule applies to all types of unwanted pursuit: Do not negotiate. Once a woman has made the decision that she doesn’t want a relationship with a particular man, it needs to be said one time, explicitly. Almost any contact after that rejection will be seen as negotiation ”¦ If you tell someone ten times that you don’t want to talk to him, you are talking to him—nine times more than you wanted to.
Here are more points that de Becker makes in the book:
- If you get 30 messages from a pursuer, and finally call him back to say, “stop calling,” he learns that after 30 attempts, he will get a response.
- If you make an excuse like, “I don’t want to be in a relationship right now,” the stalker assumes you will want to be in a relationship later, and keeps calling.
- If you say, “You’re a great guy, but I’m not the one for you,” the stalker thinks you’re just confused, and will come around in time.
- Never explain why you don’t want a relationship. If you give a reason, it gives him something to challenge.
- A nice or delicate rejection is often taken as affection.
“The way to stop contact is to stop contact,” de Becker says. “I suggest one explicit rejection and after that absolutely no contact. If you call the pursuer back, or agree to meet, or send him a note, or have somebody warn him off, you buy another six weeks of his unwanted pursuit.”
Giving in
What happens if you’re wishy-washy about No Contact? Not long ago, Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader who we’ll call “Lenore.”
I literally had to count the days that went by as I refused contact with him, and on day 120, I celebrated because I felt healed. Well, on day 121, he emailed me, and against my better judgment, I emailed him back. He told me he had been in therapy, he realized what he had done wrong, he was on medication.
I was cautious and wary, and decided, amidst warnings of concern from my friends and family, to perhaps work on a friendship again. We worked on being friends for a few weeks, and everything was great and fine. I felt in control of the situation.
Then his old behaviors started creeping in. He installed a GPS app on my phone so he could track my whereabouts. He began calling and texting incessantly, and flipping out if I didn’t answer right away. The verbal and psychological abuse had begun again. Fortunately, this time it did not escalate to physical abuse. He began lying again, gaslighting and acting erratically, and began seeing other women on the side. Last night, it once again became too much and I told him not to contact me again because my heart and my spirit couldn’t take any more pain, and his inconsistency is so bad for my son.
So today begins Day One again without him. I am writing you today to tell you that your no contact advice was the best advice I didn’t take. For 120 days I went without him. It took a while, but by day 90 I was happy and free and at peace. Now I am back to square one.
No Contact is the path to healing from an entanglement with a sociopath. The stronger you can be about No Contact, the faster you will recover.
sounds like a nice day 0x – sans gad co. inc. the joke…
but i think a little white cane in a weiner’s mouth is a ….cigarette. and i am dead set against animals smoking! now smoked animals, that’s diff. 🙂
Dear One,
Well, now that I have quit smoking myself, you know I am completely against animals smoking—or people smoking either! No fanatic like a convert!
Wow, can’t believe it’s friday night already! Week has gone by fast! Might be supposed to get some rain this weekend, sure hope we manage to do so. It will probably knock what little color we have off the trees, but I’ll trade it for this desert we’ve had all summer.
nobody’s gonna smoke my weiner..
Dear Henry,
Have you thought about building Harley a ramp? Seriously? I do bet that would help him. Once you get it built, get down on your knees with him and show him what it is and “walk” him down it and back up it and in and out through the dog door (put something that he can SMELL) on the dog door.
EB hasn’t been around today, probably out working! I cleaned so much stuff out of the attic of the barn but can’t get “rid” of it til we get some rain and can burn it—old financial papers that I don’t want to send to the dump. Amazing the things I’m finding down in the bottom of some of those boxes. Found about $5 in change and a half of a box of nicotine gum! LOL (head shaking here) No telling what else I’ll find! Amazing just how much stuff I will be getting rid of! Good feeling!
Did find a box of stuff I was LOOKING FOR though! Mis labeled of course—DUH!
Hey, Hey, HEY….Eb’s in the house.
Yep….working…..working on NO GOOD!
🙂
I’m having a jolly good time watching the fallout unfold on FB…..I must admit.
I will tell you…..THEY NEVER CHANGE!
As tired of him as I got….you’d think he’d get tired of himself….but no….alas…hes throwing bombs in all kinds of peeps direcetions….I’ts interesting to watch reactions. 🙂
Breathless….
GIRL…DELETE Momma! PERIOD! END OF STORY!
Have you been reading my posts? If so, you would be clear on my ‘use’ of FB.
You never know someones motives….just don’t let your ‘ego’ or empathy get in your own way.
FB is a GREAT TOOL……i’d never use it for personal use.
I just hunted down spath, he’s ducked service since June….keeps himself on the move….
Even though he’s got a private FB……his ‘friends’ don’t…..and he posts….and blabs, and trys to gain supply and get his ego stroked by his FB ‘friends’…..people who in reality, don’t give a flying rats ass about him……but collect friends.
So……this week, I was able to have him served at the airport on a layover…….3000 miles away. Pretty CLASSIC. All gleened info from FB.
You just never know motives. If you never met this woman in person……why start now? for what?
This smells fishy, and i see no reason to take this chance….if want to be friends in person….whatever, i don’t even advise that.
Look for ‘real’ people in your life to chat with, who give a shit about you. And IF you did have kids with spath…….FB is also NOT the way to communicate.
This woman is a snake……..just like my ex MIL…..my ex MIL is friends on FB with my ex’s , ex gf from when he was 18. (we were married for 19 yrs/together 28)……Uh, she HATED this girl back then……and WHY pray tell are they ‘friends’ on FB now……centureis later?
WEIRD!
Their problem……
Get off fb…..I could tell you so much about so much on FB.
People just don’t realize.
I cant remember who it was on this thread, who said shed like to spit on her husbands coffin.
I remember reading about the Playwright John Osborne, who used to be married to the Actress, Joan Bennett.
She died,quite young, of cancer, and he said,{horribly, he sounds a right bastard}.
“Im looking forward to leaning over her open coffin, and dropping a huge ball of spit, right in her eye.”
No love lost there! He was a bastard, but this image might be a good one to those of us, trying to get past the so-called “LURVE” our spaths had for us!!
Love, Mama Gem.
Ooooh.
I’ll keep that one in mind Gem!
🙂
Dear Gem,
Do you remember the old joke about the cheap Scotsman who offered to pour a valuable bottle of Scotch on his friend’s grave, but asked if it would be alright if he “passed it through me kidneys first?” LOL ROTFLMAO
Yea, I think I’d like to pour a bottle of Scotch on a few graves myself sometimes, but I wouldn’t want to waste it by not filtering it through my kidneys first. LOL
Seriously, though, the desire for revenge, the bitterness we have to hold in order to feel like that doesn’t do US any good, but hurts us. Forgiveness is not for THEIR SAKES, but for our own. Getting that bitterness out of our souls, while still remembering that THEY ARE THE EVIL ONES and that NOTHING they did is justified by ANYTHING they say or think.
NO ONE deserves to be defrauded either of love or money but unfortunately, there are con artists out there that that is their entire goal in life—to take what someone else has or is, and to destroy it.
As evil as my sperm donor was, and he is in my opinion right up there with any other serial killer—whether it is 2 or 200 people he has killed—he doesn’t deserve to make me into a bitter hateful person who foams at the mouth. It is a continual effort on my part to keep myself from allowing that bitterness to reemerge.
Sort of like the Native American story the grandfather told to his grandson, “there are two wolves that live within our souls, one evil and one good. They are constantly fighting.” The grandson says “But who wins, Grandfather?” and the Grandfather says, “The ONE YOU FEED.”
We must continually FEED the good inside ourselves to over come the EVIL spirit that will emerge if we do not continually FEED the goodness in ourselves with peace, kindness, compassion, and love.
I’m Back!
Only after being a damned fool again and contacting the Ol’ Broad- I have been burned with mulipule times over 28 years! In spite of very good sage advice here I listened to my heart and had a weak moment in April and emailed “S” woman. She was still angry with me having it ended it with her..but the next day emailed me a general email about pets with a smily face attached. Well that was it. We just spent the last 7 months in a second emotional affair..across the miles and of course NO Sex. I went up to see her in May for the first time in 14 years. She seemed attentive and wonderful. I wanted her so much. But then she does what she always does when I am around her-clams up. Withdraws. But during this time she did manage to con me out of a $1,200 computer and about $500 dollars in “help”. When I returned home she would talk to me every night over the phone for anywhere from 1-2 hours. Not really saying anything romantic but still luring me into her. Then this past two weeks ago i made the 560 mile trip with my borther up to her house again. Taking with me a electric fireplace she was given by my brother and gifts galore because we were exchanging Christmas gifts to save on shipping since we were up there. The main thing she got from me was 4 days hard labor out in her yard raking leaves, weedeating, painting, and other tasks. we had talked about me, my wife and my brother relocating(upon my insistance) up there to live around her so I could be there for her and help her out. But when we got up there..once agian.. in spite of all the things we did for her..she went cold on me again. we did nothing I wanted to do. I told her on the phone that we would not be moving up there after all because if I did it would ruin my marriage. She got angry with me and told me that I was causally dismissing her. I wasn’t but she emailed when I got home and said that it was over..and not even friendship. I emailed her back and said that was for the best. I still am angry with her for using me but I walked right into it this time with open eyes. The feeling of being used is traumatizing but I know now in my heart it is over because it feels final. I just wish I could have taken back the past 7 months because I would have been alot richer financially and emotionally. But live and learn. I have made my repentance with God. Now I have to forgive myself. That is that harderst part. So. this is a do over.. day 10 and counting..