When people realize that that they are involved with a sociopath, the standard advice from Lovefraud is that they should, as quickly as possible, cut the predator out of their lives. That means no phone calls, no e-mails, no texts, and certainly no in-person meetings. It means No Contact.
Of course, there are times when this is difficult, as when our reader works with the sociopath, or they have children together. In these cases, they need to implement No Contact as best they can. But let’s now talk about situations where it is possible to get rid of the person, such as in a dating relationship.
What is the best way to establish No Contact? Clearly, firmly and permanently.
The rules of No Contact
The book called The Gift of Fear, by Gavin de Becker, devotes several pages to the topic of rejecting an unwanted suitor, and these pages are among the most helpful of the entire book.
De Becker writes in the context of a woman who decides she doesn’t want to be involved with a man. Do not, the author says, try to “let him down easy.” Here’s what he writes:
One rule applies to all types of unwanted pursuit: Do not negotiate. Once a woman has made the decision that she doesn’t want a relationship with a particular man, it needs to be said one time, explicitly. Almost any contact after that rejection will be seen as negotiation ”¦ If you tell someone ten times that you don’t want to talk to him, you are talking to him—nine times more than you wanted to.
Here are more points that de Becker makes in the book:
- If you get 30 messages from a pursuer, and finally call him back to say, “stop calling,” he learns that after 30 attempts, he will get a response.
- If you make an excuse like, “I don’t want to be in a relationship right now,” the stalker assumes you will want to be in a relationship later, and keeps calling.
- If you say, “You’re a great guy, but I’m not the one for you,” the stalker thinks you’re just confused, and will come around in time.
- Never explain why you don’t want a relationship. If you give a reason, it gives him something to challenge.
- A nice or delicate rejection is often taken as affection.
“The way to stop contact is to stop contact,” de Becker says. “I suggest one explicit rejection and after that absolutely no contact. If you call the pursuer back, or agree to meet, or send him a note, or have somebody warn him off, you buy another six weeks of his unwanted pursuit.”
Giving in
What happens if you’re wishy-washy about No Contact? Not long ago, Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader who we’ll call “Lenore.”
I literally had to count the days that went by as I refused contact with him, and on day 120, I celebrated because I felt healed. Well, on day 121, he emailed me, and against my better judgment, I emailed him back. He told me he had been in therapy, he realized what he had done wrong, he was on medication.
I was cautious and wary, and decided, amidst warnings of concern from my friends and family, to perhaps work on a friendship again. We worked on being friends for a few weeks, and everything was great and fine. I felt in control of the situation.
Then his old behaviors started creeping in. He installed a GPS app on my phone so he could track my whereabouts. He began calling and texting incessantly, and flipping out if I didn’t answer right away. The verbal and psychological abuse had begun again. Fortunately, this time it did not escalate to physical abuse. He began lying again, gaslighting and acting erratically, and began seeing other women on the side. Last night, it once again became too much and I told him not to contact me again because my heart and my spirit couldn’t take any more pain, and his inconsistency is so bad for my son.
So today begins Day One again without him. I am writing you today to tell you that your no contact advice was the best advice I didn’t take. For 120 days I went without him. It took a while, but by day 90 I was happy and free and at peace. Now I am back to square one.
No Contact is the path to healing from an entanglement with a sociopath. The stronger you can be about No Contact, the faster you will recover.
“Whatever hole they crawled through to get into our lives.”
I agree, but I will add that honesty plus ignorance on my part, so lets not be too hard on ourselves.
Yes, there was a hole, but its entry was made easy by the fact my x-spath was lying to me, presenting himself as somebody proper and reserved when he was quite the opposite.
Since I never before saw anyone behave so oddly (yet in a charming way), I thought he was real. But my gut kept telling me he was hiding things.
Now, I got with my gut!
For the first 3 months with my ex, I LITERALLY trembled TWENTY-FOUR hours a day. My body KNEW something was REALLY wrong. I chalked it up to being something else. NOW I know that a GREAT “detector” my body was. I remember someone saying to me at the time, “I’ve NEVER seen you SO nervous.”
I agree with not making ourselves 100% accountable. After all THEY DID SLITHER IN! And yes, we were not WISE to SNAKES back then. Now we know what one looks and sounds like, we know better. LOL.
Here’s one for Ya’ll.
Is anyone else like me and KNOWS all we have learned here on LF…UNDERSTANDS how these snakes work and YET something inside us thinks that maybe, just maybe something will change and that our ex is just a borderline case and he’ll be able to work on fixing his issues…..I have one who talks about being aware of his “problem”……goes to counseling ….YES I KNOW……What I’m saying is that DESPITE what I know and I could talk about endlessly and DESPITE what I would “advise” anyone else with my situation, I have a tough time accepting that he is a hopeless case. That he TRULY can’t love. That he truly has NO remorse, blah, blah
Anyone else like me?
Peace Sisters
SHMS, I feel like that a lot of the time even though I know in my heart that I don’t want him here, it is very tough to let go, I don’t understand it, and I’m talking about someone who I KNOW will never change, but my mind will wander to “maye he will”. I should be proud of myself for turning him away!!! I did something good for me… finally!
Dear SHMS,
Of COURSE my dear! I understand perfectly. That is how we justify staying with them, that is how we gloss over what they do in order to accept unacceptable behavior….that is us bargaining with God to not let what is obvious be the truth we know it is.
That is why when we hear that someone we love is dead we deny it is so,, “Oh, it cannot be true” and then we bargain with God, “Oh, I will go to church 5 times a week forever if this isn’t true” but short term those forms of emotional denial and bargaining are helpful, long term not so much. We must accept that the “death/loss” has occurred before we can get on with healing. It is painful to accept that, but it is a must before healing.
I know, but I left. My MIND told me that I should NOT accept the behavior, so my actions were based on what my brain told me was the right thing to do. I am STILL doing the “right thing”. It just AMAZES me that knowing the disorder to the extend that I do, that I think somehow he can change, knowing that part of the disorder is that he CAN’T change. I think I’m just not sure about that.
I need to hear that NO A SINGLE SOCIOPATH has ever sorted through the things that made him that way and is now capable of love and empathy. THAT’S what I NEED to hear from someone who KNOWS the data. I just find it hard to believe that there is not a SINGLE case of recovery.
Anyone know the stats on this?
Dear SHMS,
By DEFINITION a psychopath has NO EMPATHY. So if they have empathy to any extent that you would notice, they are not a psychopath. Without empathy, without being able to connect to other humans, to realize that the things you do hurt others and CARE that you are hurting others, how could you “get better?”
Of course being a psychopath is like being “tall” vs being “short”–where does “short” end and “tall” begin? There is a scale along which a psychopath is measured and considered a “psychopath” and it is a combination of emotional deficits AND antisocial behavior= a psychopath.
I can say to you that NO SINGLE SOCIOPATH EVER GOT ANY BETTER—but at the same time do you want a person who is just a “medium” psychopath? Don’t you want someone who is a kind, loving, compassionate person?
There are some articles here in the archives about this, and about treatment for them. Treatment in many cases makes them WORSE and that is statistical (“The Psychopath, Emotion, and the Brain” by James Blair, Derek Mitchell, and Katrina Blair and “The Psychopathic Mind, Origins, Dynamics and Treatment” by J. Reid Meloy, “Without Conscience” by Robert Hare.)
All the FACTS that anyone can point you toward is that the psychopath is not going to change because s/he does NOT CARE about changing. You either accept it or you don’t.
Do you need more “facts” to support the law of gravity? That you are not likely to float up to the ceiling in the morning when you get out of bed unless you are tied to the floor? Is it possible that at one time ONE PERSON has actually floated up to the ceiling? Just ONE person so maybe you will float to the ceiling at some time. Is it possible..just maybe possible? (sorry for the hyperbole here but the devil made me do it! LOL) (((hugs))))
Thanks Oxy,
His only change is for HIMSELF. It’s now about who he has hurt. It’s about that HE can’t feel.
I STILL believe that there is a REASON they become like this and I think they can learn to understand it and learn to allow themselves to feel.
That’s my problem. THIS is what I believe. REGARDLESS of all I know. It’s like 2 people within me. One believes one thing. The other believes the other.
I am WILLING to ADMIT this here, because if others feel the same, I want them to know they are not alone. I also would like to hear from others who struggle with this dichotomy.
Dear SHMS,
I do understand this FEELING vs KNOWING. It is a DREAM I think that we want so desperately to believe in Santa, the tooth fairy, the Easter bunny, etc. that it is painful to give up that belief in the myth that is so comforting.
It also isn’t about “belief” making it REAL either. No matter how we “wish up on a star….” it isn’t going to make it COME TRUE in real life!
Belief and faith work in religion and preferences like chocolate vs. vanilla but they don’t “work” in science. You can BELIEVE the world is flat but it won’t make it true.
SHMS
I can say that I know it for everyone else. BUT for mine I STILL to THIS DAY question if he has changed. For me its not that I want him to change. Honestly, I WANT to believe that he is a Spath. I WANT to believe that he isn’t feeling anything different for her. That she isn’t so special that he is able to give her what he didn’t give me. I WANT TO BELIEVE IT!!!!
But I have an impossible time accepting that he cant feel empathy. I can’t believe that all the love, encouragement, hugs, heart to hearts were all a lie. That he felt nothing for me the times he held me while I cried. I see the patterns of using people. I see how he fits the mold. BUT if i hear one thing that he didn’t do that other spaths have done then I question….”well maybe he isn’t he didn’t do x, y ,or z…he doesn’t sound as bad as that guy….he never physically abused me….he never called me names in anger.” I still believe in the heart that I fell in love with….I don’t want to believe it!!! I KNOW he doesn’t have that heart for me anymore but I still think he has that heart for her.
I wish I believed he cant change. I want to believe he is a Spath. It hurts less if I DO believe it actually!!!
So NO you aren’t alone. If anyone knows how I can learn to REALLY believe it please jump in because I don’t want him back, he isn’t coming back, and I would love for my heart to believe what my head knows!!!