When people realize that that they are involved with a sociopath, the standard advice from Lovefraud is that they should, as quickly as possible, cut the predator out of their lives. That means no phone calls, no e-mails, no texts, and certainly no in-person meetings. It means No Contact.
Of course, there are times when this is difficult, as when our reader works with the sociopath, or they have children together. In these cases, they need to implement No Contact as best they can. But let’s now talk about situations where it is possible to get rid of the person, such as in a dating relationship.
What is the best way to establish No Contact? Clearly, firmly and permanently.
The rules of No Contact
The book called The Gift of Fear, by Gavin de Becker, devotes several pages to the topic of rejecting an unwanted suitor, and these pages are among the most helpful of the entire book.
De Becker writes in the context of a woman who decides she doesn’t want to be involved with a man. Do not, the author says, try to “let him down easy.” Here’s what he writes:
One rule applies to all types of unwanted pursuit: Do not negotiate. Once a woman has made the decision that she doesn’t want a relationship with a particular man, it needs to be said one time, explicitly. Almost any contact after that rejection will be seen as negotiation ”¦ If you tell someone ten times that you don’t want to talk to him, you are talking to him—nine times more than you wanted to.
Here are more points that de Becker makes in the book:
- If you get 30 messages from a pursuer, and finally call him back to say, “stop calling,” he learns that after 30 attempts, he will get a response.
- If you make an excuse like, “I don’t want to be in a relationship right now,” the stalker assumes you will want to be in a relationship later, and keeps calling.
- If you say, “You’re a great guy, but I’m not the one for you,” the stalker thinks you’re just confused, and will come around in time.
- Never explain why you don’t want a relationship. If you give a reason, it gives him something to challenge.
- A nice or delicate rejection is often taken as affection.
“The way to stop contact is to stop contact,” de Becker says. “I suggest one explicit rejection and after that absolutely no contact. If you call the pursuer back, or agree to meet, or send him a note, or have somebody warn him off, you buy another six weeks of his unwanted pursuit.”
Giving in
What happens if you’re wishy-washy about No Contact? Not long ago, Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader who we’ll call “Lenore.”
I literally had to count the days that went by as I refused contact with him, and on day 120, I celebrated because I felt healed. Well, on day 121, he emailed me, and against my better judgment, I emailed him back. He told me he had been in therapy, he realized what he had done wrong, he was on medication.
I was cautious and wary, and decided, amidst warnings of concern from my friends and family, to perhaps work on a friendship again. We worked on being friends for a few weeks, and everything was great and fine. I felt in control of the situation.
Then his old behaviors started creeping in. He installed a GPS app on my phone so he could track my whereabouts. He began calling and texting incessantly, and flipping out if I didn’t answer right away. The verbal and psychological abuse had begun again. Fortunately, this time it did not escalate to physical abuse. He began lying again, gaslighting and acting erratically, and began seeing other women on the side. Last night, it once again became too much and I told him not to contact me again because my heart and my spirit couldn’t take any more pain, and his inconsistency is so bad for my son.
So today begins Day One again without him. I am writing you today to tell you that your no contact advice was the best advice I didn’t take. For 120 days I went without him. It took a while, but by day 90 I was happy and free and at peace. Now I am back to square one.
No Contact is the path to healing from an entanglement with a sociopath. The stronger you can be about No Contact, the faster you will recover.
Dear Jeannie,
I’m sorry you got caught in that trap—what a mess! Yea, lots of gratitude from your daughter I can see…well, it IS TUITION—your tuition to the UNIVERSITY OF HARD KNOCKS! I’m sorry, I think many of us here have paid some HIGH TUITION to that school. I know I paid my share and then some, and got the same amount of gratitude.
Well, I decided it was WORTH EVERY PENNY in the end to find out what the TRUTH about how people regarded me was. Now I do NOT have to wonder. I know it is a difficult and bitter pill to swallow along with the other “medicine” we have to take but in the end, it COULD BE WORSE…we could still have not gotten the LESSON. As costly as it is, it is a very VALUABLE ONE!
I think we sort of “pay for what we get” and the VALUABLE LESSONS may cost more. Kind of like a PhD from the UHK! (((hugs))))
And It all started when my daughter posted how she plans to spend the bonus she gets from going to Afganistan this December.
She posted: buy a corvette!
Her boyfriend posted No, a Harley!
She posted NO a boat first!
I posted: Student loans first!
And this got her pissed off at me
And, that boyfriend my daughter has. She says he is 41. He is a healthy fit 41 year old. This guy looks more like mid-50’s. My daughter is 27.
And, I don’t like the look of this guy. I never met him. I only see the pictures of him and my daughter. I am drawn to his eyes in the picture. He has this possessive look while he is posing with my daughter for the picture. Like she is HIS!
And, what kind of man would want to profit off this “sweet young thing” he got?
He wants a Harley……
Well, we know where student loans are on the list don’t we–below Corvette and below Harley and below boat! Maybe he thinks she and her bonus ARE his. Well, she will get the truth whether she SEEs it or not is up to her.
Oxy and anyone else that has some ideas:
I need some help with how to return some things the S left at my home. Over the summer he built me a very awesome garden shed (I did not realize it was advance payment for his ongoing craziness in my life) and left a ladder, saw horses, some hand tools, etc. He owns a home 1 1/2 hours away from me, but is actually living with family 500 miles away due to work. He is not inclined to come all the way down here to check on his house unless he has a woman lined up to host him (and I think I am about the only one left in this region, he has been back in his home state for over a year and is building / reviving his harem back up there), but his stuff here leaves an opening for him to return that I do not like.
When I went NC with him last month, I emailed a request that he only contact me if he was coming down and give me a day or two notice so I could put his things out in the drive for him to pick up. I intended to make sure I was gone for several days upon learning he would be in the area. I have not actually seen him since mid-Aug. and would not be surprised if he dragged out leaving his things here until after winter, thus maybe he would find me hankering to jump back into it all over again.
I am considering hauling his stuff to his home here and leaving it outside, maybe around the back of his house where it hopefully won’t get stolen. I do not have access to his house and there isn’t a shed or a breezeway to leave it in. One of the power tools isn’t even his; he “borrowed” it from his employer and is apparently not in any hurry to return it. Afterwards, I thought I would email him that I had done so and let him worry about getting it taken care of.
However, if I am to do this I need to do it soon as I have to drive over a mountain to get to his house here, and cannot tackle that once it snows. Which means next weekend, since I also do not drive well at night! My worry is that he could make something out of this; without a witness that I actually left his things on his property could he charge me with something? Or ”“ if I get to his house and there has been vandalism (it is empty and he does not even bother to have anyone check on it or mow the grass), would he try to blame me? I do not really have anyone that could accompany me as a witness, and have considered going straight to the local police in his town to see if an officer would accompany me to his house, but we are in a very rural area and I do not know if they would oblige me.
Any ideas?”.thanks for any help on this. ~ Enig
P.S. I am EST and it is late”.bedtime, but I will be back on tomorrow. Good night all! xoxo
Great article,and I read alot of the feedback as well..
Very timely.
I realise that I need this site more than ever right now.
My spath e-mailed me and I got it yesterday(sorry to repeat myself if you are already up on my story.)
But tonight I have been having a very hard time with his initiating some form of communication with me.(am sad and alarmed emotionally from it)..
For all of the same reasons many mentioned above..
It is an addiction for me to want to fight with him,or knock him off is imaginary pedestal..
After reading this article,I wondered at first if I should e-mail him,”Do not contact me anymore,”but on further reading..
The “delete him” seems to be the best advice.
I blocked him and deleted him from all of my e-mail accounts.
I do not believe that this will make him stop any kind of smear campaign that he has instigated,but for now,hopefully it will return my peace of mind..
This site is like AA.
It helps me to know that I am not alone in this.
I am still so shocked to find that this is a common issue,and a Real diagnosis that has destroyed so many lives and spirits..
It helps me to disconnect from him easier,but I can relate to Hopeful#,when she described not wanting him to suceed in his present or future relationships.
It makes me feel worse that the new girl he’s with,and he seem to be so happy,and so “normal” together..
they have already outlasted the amount of time that he and I were together,so it really messes with me.
I do,on the other hand,know for certain that his ex-wife would most likely have plenty to share and then some on how he did the same behavior with her..
She has two kids with him,which must make it extremely difficult on her.
I guess there is one thing to be grateful for,that Im not in her shoes..
She Has to continue to deal with him whether she wants to or not.
I am giving myself a break today.
I did NOT break NC.
He did.
And I will continue to NOT contact him,though I may have to fight the urge to give him another piece of my mind again..
I have to resist the desire to tell him off(he has done much to deserve a good “telling off”)..
I hate him,and feel violated and abandoned all over again as he wrote me to say “wish you all the best”..
Those were his words,and becasue of the depth andd weight of what we went through,his phony words are too little,too late,and fake..
I Do find strength here,and hope to contribute some hope and sregth to others on here as I learn and practice NC.
Im counting today as NC1,because HE contacted Me by e-mail.
Though I didnt respond,he is now blocked forever,so hopefully,no more e-mails from him..
Everyone here is telling my story.
It is nice to be understood.
And since I am so bothered I cant sleep.I will contiue reading and posting tonight,as it really DOES help me feel better about things..
Truelove
truelove – the appearance of ‘normal’ is just a facade. it’s not a reality. don’t twist yourself up over it, it’s not true.
just keep doing the NC one day at a time. his contacting you will always be NC for you if you do not respond in any way – hang up immediately if he calls, never read the emails (not an issue now, though 😉
read as many of the threads here as you can. you are still in the ‘shock and awe’ phase of this experience and it will take some time to move through this.
focusing on yourself is important – it’s hard to do also. There is a very good book titled, Betrayal Bond, that you can purchase through this site or another bookseller – it is extremely helpful for understanding how we connect with these people to begin with.
Dear truelove,
I know the desire to “tell him off” is big but it only gives him attention and he doesn’t care if it is positive or negative, it is ATTENTION and that is what he is after. The NO response is PAINFUL to him, believe it or not! So actually you DID get to tell him off by maintaining control and not letting him “make” you respond. That is hell on a stick for them!
It is all about control for him. He can’t stand to not be in CONTROL of what you do. YOU can’t shut him out, you don’t have that RIGHT, because he didn’t give it to you!
SURPRISE BOY-O, she dun tuk bak her POWER!!!!!
TOWANDA!!!!
Enigma don’t bother with his stuff. Donate it.
I had the same thing going on with Jim. He put his ‘mark’ on me by leaving his stuff at my house. He had an excuse to come back.
He never put a ring on my finger. Instead he left his socks behind. Worn-out socks mind you.
Please don’t buy into doing the right thing with a creep like that. That is their strategy. They know you will do the right thing. While they hate you for being so PERFECT.
Your guy needs a taste of hate. You don’t want to be mean, but let me tell you he will go balistic if you don’t have his stuff handy 10 years from now.
Don’t worry about the landlord/tenant law cause your guy is probally in trouble with the law and doesn’t want the attention from the authorities.
Just accidently drop the shit on the road. Opps!
The scavangers will scarf it up quickly.