When people realize that that they are involved with a sociopath, the standard advice from Lovefraud is that they should, as quickly as possible, cut the predator out of their lives. That means no phone calls, no e-mails, no texts, and certainly no in-person meetings. It means No Contact.
Of course, there are times when this is difficult, as when our reader works with the sociopath, or they have children together. In these cases, they need to implement No Contact as best they can. But let’s now talk about situations where it is possible to get rid of the person, such as in a dating relationship.
What is the best way to establish No Contact? Clearly, firmly and permanently.
The rules of No Contact
The book called The Gift of Fear, by Gavin de Becker, devotes several pages to the topic of rejecting an unwanted suitor, and these pages are among the most helpful of the entire book.
De Becker writes in the context of a woman who decides she doesn’t want to be involved with a man. Do not, the author says, try to “let him down easy.” Here’s what he writes:
One rule applies to all types of unwanted pursuit: Do not negotiate. Once a woman has made the decision that she doesn’t want a relationship with a particular man, it needs to be said one time, explicitly. Almost any contact after that rejection will be seen as negotiation ”¦ If you tell someone ten times that you don’t want to talk to him, you are talking to him—nine times more than you wanted to.
Here are more points that de Becker makes in the book:
- If you get 30 messages from a pursuer, and finally call him back to say, “stop calling,” he learns that after 30 attempts, he will get a response.
- If you make an excuse like, “I don’t want to be in a relationship right now,” the stalker assumes you will want to be in a relationship later, and keeps calling.
- If you say, “You’re a great guy, but I’m not the one for you,” the stalker thinks you’re just confused, and will come around in time.
- Never explain why you don’t want a relationship. If you give a reason, it gives him something to challenge.
- A nice or delicate rejection is often taken as affection.
“The way to stop contact is to stop contact,” de Becker says. “I suggest one explicit rejection and after that absolutely no contact. If you call the pursuer back, or agree to meet, or send him a note, or have somebody warn him off, you buy another six weeks of his unwanted pursuit.”
Giving in
What happens if you’re wishy-washy about No Contact? Not long ago, Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader who we’ll call “Lenore.”
I literally had to count the days that went by as I refused contact with him, and on day 120, I celebrated because I felt healed. Well, on day 121, he emailed me, and against my better judgment, I emailed him back. He told me he had been in therapy, he realized what he had done wrong, he was on medication.
I was cautious and wary, and decided, amidst warnings of concern from my friends and family, to perhaps work on a friendship again. We worked on being friends for a few weeks, and everything was great and fine. I felt in control of the situation.
Then his old behaviors started creeping in. He installed a GPS app on my phone so he could track my whereabouts. He began calling and texting incessantly, and flipping out if I didn’t answer right away. The verbal and psychological abuse had begun again. Fortunately, this time it did not escalate to physical abuse. He began lying again, gaslighting and acting erratically, and began seeing other women on the side. Last night, it once again became too much and I told him not to contact me again because my heart and my spirit couldn’t take any more pain, and his inconsistency is so bad for my son.
So today begins Day One again without him. I am writing you today to tell you that your no contact advice was the best advice I didn’t take. For 120 days I went without him. It took a while, but by day 90 I was happy and free and at peace. Now I am back to square one.
No Contact is the path to healing from an entanglement with a sociopath. The stronger you can be about No Contact, the faster you will recover.
StillHaveMySoul, I hear YOU! Same here. I knew he was a flirt, big deal-I can be too. But, I got an email via Facebook one day from a woman who told me that the pics I had just posted of us out a nice restaurant, he had taken her there to…and that she was seeing him for a little while until she found out that he was always seeing two other women from the area. So that was 3 he was seeing at once and me. She said quote “he takes ALL his women to the same place”…OMG!! THAT is when I became MS DETECTIVE, because of course HE “wasn’t doing anything”, he laughed and said “I can barely keep up with you how the hell do you think I could juggle you and 3 other women?” LIES, LIES, and more LIES!
Need to vent – spath has hacked one of my email accounts again – and i have found 4 accounts in mail accounts – sending out info no doubt – that weren’t there 2 days ago.
so boring. it’s like having to sweep the floor everyday. bag of dirt that she is…
I have a growing list of passwords connected with my accounts. rotate/ refresh/ develop/ change.
One:
Can you have ALL emails ‘sent’ from those ‘new’ addresses forwarded to a ‘disposable’ account for future documentation?
It may not be worth it!???
OMG, SHMS!
I did the same dam thing: I refused to allow myself to snoop in J’s computer, or eavesdrop on his phone calls (even after he started saying, “I’ll call you back” every time I walked in!)
He HAD been posting personals looking for “a new relationship with a strong, funny, smart woman in the W area” for 5 months before he went to prison in 04….besides “courting” another woman every day when he was supposedly “working on her water system” LOL! He told me she was a feeble 74yo woman who needed a lot of help. After he went to prison, she called one day & I asked how old she was. In a voice like lovely tinkling southern bell(e)s, she said, “52”. She & I became friends & she was (still is) drop-dead gorgeous, fabulously wealthy, & has 3 MASTERS Degrees! [one in psychiatry, so that we’ve had no end of amusement in discussing him, especially since these recent revelations!]
But he swore to me (while he was in prison, of course) that he’d Never Ever do it again, & just “panicked” because he was in flight, & was trying to find a woman to help him get to Mexico! And I thot that made it okay!!! DUH DUH DUH DUH!! (It’s amazing what we’ll fall for, isn’t it?? As Grandmother always said, “none are so blind as those who WON’T see!)
Anyhow, especially BECAUSE of his past “cheating”, & his oath to never do it again, & his avowed love for me forever & ever, I Would Not Allow myself to be one of those stupid, suspicious, insecure women!
But you know what–as in denial as I wanted to be & was—even if I had snooped & FOUND, he’d’ve said, “do you wanta believe me or your lyin eyes” & I’d’ve said, “you darling, I believe you.” In fact that’s just exactly what I said when I found the hotel res on my computer & he explained it away SO deftly that I frickin apologized my ass off for suspecting him of seeing another woman!! And he had the balls to say, “But I’m flattered that you’d think that!” And I went, “oh thank god for such a wonderful man….” ARGHHHHHHH!!!! 🙂
EB – have no record of sends or of receiving. don’t see any untoward sent email. The accounts were just set up – They weren’t there yesterday.
She is annoying.
Need to get the computers swept – will bring in a security specialist.
WhyMe, I can so relate to you saying you’re sorry for questioning him on some thing that you suspected. RAISING HAND HIGH!! I did the same freakin thing. Every time I found something indicating he was seeing/involved/communicating with someone else…he would laugh and tell me he was flattered as well-all the while he WAS doing what I suspected; yet I sorry (feeling guilty) for accusing him of something he wasn’t doing. ….YEAAAAH RIGHT~
No Contact absolutely worked for me. I totally withdrew all my energy from him, changed my phone number straight away, never drove past his place. It was difficult at first whilst I was hurting, but it was the best medicine, the best way of putting a full stop to it. Give em nothing to chew on.
OMG!!! I just got an OUT OF THE BLUE call from business spath #2!
I have something SHE WANTS…..but the catch is…..Ishe owes me money…..and I was awareded a judgement.
Along with a judgement of following the law and I DON”T HAVE TO GIVE HER WHAT SHE WANTS……. HA!
She said she wanted to do the ‘moral’ right thing….and get what she wants from me.
And clear up her debt.
I said….Oh yeah….she mentioned attorney yada yada, blah, blah…..
I told her…..hmmmm go ahead….but I would recommend before she hires an attorney to tell her she can’t sue me….., maybe send that money to ME!
I told her we were talking 2 separate issues……MY MONEY…..The ‘stuff’.
I would ONLY discuss ‘the stuff’ ONCE I was paid off COMPLETELY.
NOW I SAID….you have two doors to choose from…..and since I’m in the drivers seat here…..I’ll let you choose.
You pay me what you legally owe me….(small claims judgement)
OR you pay me what you ‘really’…morrally owe me….(make e whole).
DEPENDING on what door you choose……will depend on which way I choose to go to ‘please’ you.
I have stuff that she really, really, really, really wants back!
I said, the key here, is….I’ve ALWAYS been reasonable….and YOU need to bak on that continuing.
BUT with YOUR mindset of a CON…….it may not be worth it and you may view it as a set uyp….or as how YOU will operate!
Chances, chances…..
She said…well can we make up some sort of contract…..I stopped her and said….NO…..This is HOW it will be done! PERIOD! Your word is NOT valid….so I will NO LONGER honor anything that spews out of your mouth….like I told your husband in court….SHOW ME THE MONEY FUCKER!
I also asked her, So….how’s this lifestyle working out for ya?
🙂
EB You told her how the cow eat’s the cabbage..Towander!!
TOWANDA!!!! EB!!!! Yea for our side! Well, her con game came to bite her back in the arse now didn’t it!!!!!
That is what happens to those that don’t honor their word—their word comes to mean NOTHING.
Actually you are just holding the STUFF as COLLATERAL for the judgment she owes you for…hee hee so when she pays you, you will relinquish claim to it and let her have it. BTW what are the STORAGE CHARGES for the STUFF she wants? Hee hee
They have NO SHAME EB! Can you believe that! Ha ha