I address this post mainly to my female audience because, in my experience, the pathology I’ll be discussing, while not exclusively male, is more often than not expressed by men against women.
I revisit here what I regard as an important relationship red flag: When you meet a man who seems to be “Mr. Perfect,” someone “you can’t find anything wrong with,” you need to take a good long pause; otherwise, trouble bodes.
Now I’m not talking about, or maligning, the experience of “great chemistry.” Great chemistry, even electric chemistry, where you hit it off instantly, is a good thing and sometimes a good omen.
But there’s an important difference between “great chemistry” versus the sense of having met and experienced “perfection.” The genuine Mr. Right, in other words, is a very different creature than Mr. Perfect, who almost always will be a quack.
There are a number of reasons for this. First, men perceived by the women they meet as “too good to be true” are often men with an agenda to be perceived as too good to be true. These men are often calculating narcissists or sociopaths for whom the game, the challenge, the principal goal, is to disarm their female [target] objects with their apparent, and compelling, perfection.
To advance their agenda these men may exhibit inordinately seductive qualities right from jump—inordinate levels, for instance, of charm, politeness, thoughtfulness, soliticousness, sacrifice and attentiveness (in a word, responsiveness).
But this isn’t a case of their being on their “best behavior,” as new partners normally are with each other; rather, it’s a case of their being on their best “contrived” behavior, their intent being to effect an impression of perfection as if they are cut from a different cloth—specifically, the cloth of male romantic perfection.
These men may want you to regard them as Princes heaven-sent; they may want you to feel that it took something like your lottery-like good fortune to have found them.
Many of them will be seeking the approbation of your social circle; they may want those around you to ask as with shaking heads, “Where did you find him?” “What planet did he come from?” “Oh my God, he’s like”¦perfect!”
These men will often “groom” you not unlike how the sexual abuser grooms his victims—with promises of his special attentiveness, gratification and protectiveness. This exploitive strategy is extremely potent as it accesses deeply-held fantasies to be perfectly loved, protected and embraced.
Other LoveFraud columnists and astute posters have correctly noted that not all of these men are consciously operating as predators. While true, it’s also important not to minimize just how many of these men are, consciously, operating with predatory agendas.
In either case, these are not men who love, respect, or even like women. Rather, they use women for ego-gratifying and ego-masturbatory purposes. And just as the thrill of a masturbatury experience fades fast, so too does the thrill that women give such men fade with often startling, disorienting suddenness.
While this dynamic may or may not confuse the exploiter, it will surely confuse the unalert woman.
In their “grooming” process, these men will often pull out all the stops: they may, for instance, be the best, most attentive lovers you’ve ever had while all the while they’re not actually enjoying the sex because they’re not present; rather, they are watching themselves, and watching themselves with you, as if they’re porno aspirants determined to make a name for themselves, determined to stamp themselves (to legendize themselves, if you will) in your mind.
Many of these men are desperate to be the fantasy of their perfect selves–that is, the fantasy of themselves as special, unique, memorable. And so they tend parasitically (and compulsively) to seek cooperative, vulnerable hosts (such as you) as if to hold for them, store for them their slippery, empty gestures at immortality. (I intend to flesh this idea out in a separate post, recognizing the incompleteness of my explanation.)
We’ve discussed some of these concepts before, but another of them bears repeating: Narcissists, sociopaths and their like will chew you up for the temporary ego-gratifying nutrients you can supply them in the short-term; and then, like a piece of chewing gum from which they’ve extracted all the sugar, they’ll spit you out, devalue and discard you, now that you’ve lost your flavor (and thus use).
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW)
skylar, I have so much to say about your post!!!! I have to run to work but will write when I get back tonight. Put aside the phone and get some things done. =)
NewLily,
I have been working long hours this past weekend and whenever I am away from LF for a few days, there is sooooo much to catch up with……
I read Oxys post explaining some of what happened awile back with your adult children and how they haven’t been in contact. And I remember bits and pieces of this from a previous post you made awile back.
I am sorry that you are having to struggle with the emotional issue of your children while you are sick….And there is no struggle more emotional than dealing with something concerning emotional issues and our children.
My “wish for you” is some peace of mind and the ability to at least for the the time being put this aside and save your strength and focus for YOU and what you are going through right now.
PLEASE be well Lily and my prayers are with you.
JBizzy
He sounds very like my ex P !! oh the crazy mixed messages, the confidence, the intimacy and the sudden cruelty…I’m also awake these nights and its moved from wanting to exact revenge to feeling very guilty about not warning the new women who fall under his spell…I cant save the world, i surrender…
Skylar,
It’s crazy how similar they all are. If I didn’t know better I would think we were with the same man. I know mine for a fact has never been married. Thank god no one is legally bound to this poor excuse for a human.
You are so right with the lying in the beginning. I thought mine was a super human, so smart, full of information and knew how to do everything and anything. I often wonder how it was possible to be everything and know everything. Is he really SUPERHUMAN? Did he not sleep? I just imagined him reading and reading and always bettering himself and it even made me feel inferior. Like I was lazy and not ambitious enough. Not GOOD enough. Now I know it is just a show…
Mine would throw a pity party as well. That he almost died and could die very easily if hes not careful. He often complained of stomach ache at convenient times. I think it was just to see how I would react. It hasn’t been too long since I have been away from mine. I know I can rebound from this and move on. I just hope he hasn’t left me with any “presents”…of you know what I mean. Are S’s Bisexual? Seems as though sex is just a tool for them to dominate…
You are very strong for finally walking away after being with him for so long…There should be a rehab for us Sociopath victims. Because they are just like a drug. Do you have children with him?
Stayingsane, I too feel the guilt and try to think of ways to protect the world from this person but I know there is nothing I can do. It’s extremely frusterating! My family and friends say I just need to forget about it. I just know if I tried to expose him it would just backfire in my face.
I believe we CAN protect others from the wrath of a Sociopath!
The ‘reward’ is not as personal as we would have liked though.
It takes time, patience and diligence…..
Keep talking in society about these CLuster B’s.
If you hear of someone ‘opening a door’ to this conversation……
Pounce with your well educated and rehearsed / researched awareness campaigne speel.
I am seeing the effects I have had on every one of my friends, clients, neighbors etc……I don’t care WHO you are…..if you know me….you know about Sociopaths and the dangers!
It is not so important to diagnose them as it is to recognize the behaviors……TOXIC IS TOXIC!
It doesn’t matter if you are a neighbor, lover, daughter, co worker…….they are ‘people’ and they live a life in society…..HENCE they have a negative impact on all of us!
We need to be careful not to present ourselves in the light of a crazy, scorned ex……NO ONE WILL LISTEN!
I find it helpful to bring it ‘home’ for a new person……I wait to hear about their problems…..ask a few leading questions, without the excitement……then…..boom! It all comes out…..
I give them something to think about when they lay their head on the pillow!
Another person enlightened and given the seed to explore further……
JUST LIKE WE ALL STARTED…….with just a seed. trying to explore behaviors that didn’t make sensse.
We will never get the community scorned party thrown for us…..when we wake up the whole city in regards to OUR s.
That would be nice……But I assure you…..it can be just as grand and rewarding to ‘come in the back door’.
I am seeing the effects 2 years later!
SO…..Lf’ers……we all have it in us……Keep chatting about Sociopaths……
IT WILL CATCH ON!!!!!
Hi JBizzy…..
Welcome……I am so very glad that you were given the gift of those ‘decoder glasses’ before too much time passed!
You got a quick education girl!
You definately ‘get it’.
I can’t say it enough……
DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR! DO NOT!!!!
Yes, protect yourself……BUT DO NOT GIVE UP THE CONTROL OVER YOUR EMOTIONS!
This is a hard balance….some days your good, some days your not so good!
It’s all a journey to self discovery! You will amaze yourself!
You identified all of the red flags…….I looked past all of them for 28 years!
SO MAJOR KUDOS TO YOU!!!!!
AND YES….there is a rehab place for survivors of Sociopaths….
IT”S CALLED LOVE FRAUD!
Welcome again,……..Sorry your hear, but you will find an immense amount of support from the gang!
Read, educate and allow yourself to grow and feel the journey!
XXOO
EB
MAGGY:
WHAT A GIFT TO YOU!
TUrn it around and look at it as…….he did you a favor……
You are young and have your whole life ahead of you……and you had a brief ‘affair’ with a Sociopath….early on!
Now you know what NOT to accept in a relationship!
What vulnerablilities they prey on……and how to respond if you ever come across the red flags again…..
AND NOT JUST IN A LOVE RELATIONSHIP…..it might be a pastor, a boss, a friend…..whatever….
If something seems wrong…..IT IS!
GOOD FOR YOU GIRL!…..I am sorry you experienced this, but realistically….I’m NOT! It was a gift….
REading your post took me back 30 years…..all the things you did….I did…..ONLY MUCH LONGER…..I’m not near as astute as you! 🙂
I remember all the promises, the lies, the waiting and waiting…..giving him the benefit of the doubt each and every time!
GOsh, I didn’t want to jump to conclusions……Oh, no, I must be fair……
AS HE WALKED ALL OVER ME!
SO….congratulations my dear…….You have a leg up on the rest of your life!
XXOO
EB
JBizzy, no we didn’t have kids. God had mercy on me.
Erin, that is exactly what I do. I am the EVANGELICAL EMPATH! 🙂
I don’t let any opportunity pass to talk about my experience and my VAST KNOWLEDGE. Everyone is riveted when I speak. LOL. not kidding. It’s because everyone has met someone like this and they were confused and now I’ve just turned on a light bulb and explained it to them.
This is our mission. Look, back in the 1990’s when I first started learning about diet, alternative medicine and colon cleansing, nobody could barely say the word “colon”. I’m not kidding. So many people were embarrassed but dying to know because they had figured out that many of their problems were intestinal. So I would speak and they were grateful to learn something. Today, everyone speaks about their colon. 20 years ago, it was just beginning to happen.
Well it turns out I was wrong. The root of all problems in not in my colon, it’s in the P’s colon! P’s are the root of all problems and it won’t take 20 years for people to know because the internet has sped up communication and information sharing.
You all have your marching orders! inform yourselves and inform the world!
Skylar, I’ve learned so much from your posts here, especially about the early lying and other red flags that can become a blur/disorienting at some point.
To JBizzy, Maggie and others interested in “ways to protect the world from these kind of N/S/P people” — As I’ve been meeting new people and interacting lately on a few social networking sites, I ran across this website called PlayerBlock.com — it was interesting to read some of the posts.
Some people are exposing their ex-N/S/Ps on the above site. All one has to do is type in the person’s cell phone number to learn if there are reports about the individual from others who’ve had horrific experiences with N/S/Ps.
recovering,
I went to the playerblock site but didn’t want to register. I guess it doesn’t matter because the phone number he used is registered to me. He has a new one now.