Editor’s note: Be sure to read both articles that Ox Drover links to.
By Ox Drover
I ran across two articles in NY Times that sort of got me to thinking about how it sometimes does pay off to act like a psychopath—in business or other ways.
The following (quite long) article tells how an Internet seller terrorized his customer. I think that many people who have been the victims of psychopathic-like stalking can relate to this woman’s story. The fact that it was over such a relatively small amount of money is amazing to me, though. The lengths to which this stalker pursued his victim are also amazing to me.
Read A bully finds a pulpit on the web on NewYorkTimes.com.
This follow up article tells how, eventually, through the persistence of the victim in pursuing justice for the bullying psychopathic-like stalking she got from the abuser, it turned out that the man didn’t get away with his campaign, and now local, state and federal authorities are getting on the band wagon to go after this guy.
Read U.S. arrests online seller who scared customers on NewYorkTimes.com.
The guy even got denied bail. Yea for that judge “getting it.” It will be interesting to me to see how this plays out and just how much real jail/prison time this guy actually gets. While I can’t diagnose someone out of the newspaper, I really do feel that this man fits the criteria for many of the traits of a psychopath and he definitely is a stalker.
quest – this makes perfect sense to me. i am dealing with ptsd and i see that i can have the same reaction when people pressure me and pretend not to be pressuring me.
it’s the gaslighting.
really good observation!
..and i think we have a new lf saying, ‘o like umbrella!’
Quest:
Thanks for sharing that….that is GREAT food for thought!
It’s so very true, it’s the word salad…..then the sense making, and by then we are so caught up in trying to follow this conversation, we automatically justify…..because it’s not obvious psychobabble…..like the Elizabeth smart kidnapper singing at the top of his lungs in court….he’s obviously no one we would get into any conversation with…….or even question that it was US not ‘understanding’ or following……
They look normal, they can portray normal behaviors……but there is something not right and we skim over it trying to catch up on the details, as we dismiss the “O as in Umbrella” thinking we heard it wrong.
It’s the sort of off balance they keep us in……even on small examples that have BIG meanings.
Good catch…….and great observation!!!!
Dear Quest, I agree with One and EB, “O like Umbrella” and so many times unfortunately it DOES MAKE “SENSE” to me! LOL That is the REALLY SCARY PART!!!! LOL It is only much later that I realize there ain’t no O in umbrella! Reminds me of an ugly joke that is too long to type out tonight….maybe tomorrow.
Just got back from the lecture and the dinner and it was wonderful! Had a great time!
I’m with you OXY…..I didn’t catch it the first time…..until explained!
Scary huh?
Glad you had a fantabulous B-day dinner/night…..now….go enjoy one last bowl of blue bunny burner ice cream and relish in your old age! 🙂
Happy Birthday Darlen!!!!!
Thanks EB!!! Yea, Blue Bunny BURNER ice cream! I even had some really great brandy too! Yea, dinner had too much salt in it, but don’t do that often so will just take a little extra “water pill” and drink lots of water to flush it out—actually can’t eat “out” and have low sodium meal I guess. Was a fancy-dancy place and I’ve only eaten there a couple of times before! Got to see some folks I hadn’t seen in a long time either at the lecture. I used to be the director of student health at one of the Unies and so knew some profs there that I got to see tonight. Small group (about 20 people was all) but just a great evening!
Need to get out and take advantage of more of these, they are free and very available and very entertaining as well as learn things.
I’m slow to catch on to some of these things now, literally my brain doesn’t work the same way it did before the aircraft crash, plus the continual stress from my dad’s death right after that, and all the other psychopathic chaos for the next 3 years after that.
wow, it slipped by me too!
O like in umbrella.
What is the meaning? why did he say that, was he a p?
why didn’t I get it? is it like the dancing bear?
thanks Quest, that was really a good insight.
I have so much stuff I want to post that happened today, not sure if I have time. I have discovered a new RED FLAG. gotta share it.
I can’t get the “sitting with a psychopath” thread to open up….it only partly opens then says “done” down in the lower left corner of my screen. Every other one, even the longer threads open up, but not that one. UGHHHHHH!!!!!!
Glad you are around skylar! But it is 1:20 here and I think I am gonna go to bed. My BD celebration was fun and I ate too much but that’s okay on your BD so I’m not beating myself up over it!
See you guys on the flip side!
Hi Skylar,
He was no psychopath , as far as I could tell , he was just an east indian that didn’t know the english language well enough to know that umbrella is not spelt ombrella . It was just a simple mistake that shut me down for a few seconds . Now imagine a psychopath that figured out how to take advantage of this little quirk and use it as a manipulation tool . My X had so many tricks up her sleave I could hardly keep track . The scary part is the shut down . When normal people have been shut down , I think it leaves the door open for all kinds of mind suggestion stuff perhaps the same as what a hypnotist is able to do . Funnily enough lying is something that also tends to shut me down if I know the person is lying . It happened to me at work a couple of times when someone who was above me , told a bold faced lie . We were in a bit of an argument in a meeting and out came the lie . That was the end of the argument because I could not react logically to the lie because it wasn’t true . I had no senerio for something that was not real. Later on I went to the sales manager and told him of the lie . He hadn’t even noticed it until I explained it to him .
wow quest, what an insight. I wonder how that mechanism works exactly, but I can see where you’re getting at. Like X is Y and Up is down, down is up.. well by God, you’re Alice and you seem to have already slipped down the rabbit hole.. really interesting, wonder what implications that has.. perhaps that is what the FOG is about. Maneuvering like a blind infant, crawling on all fours, not knowing where the next blow is going to come from. WOW. Thanks for sharing that. the hypnotist analogy is interesting as well.