Editor’s note: Be sure to read both articles that Ox Drover links to.
By Ox Drover
I ran across two articles in NY Times that sort of got me to thinking about how it sometimes does pay off to act like a psychopath—in business or other ways.
The following (quite long) article tells how an Internet seller terrorized his customer. I think that many people who have been the victims of psychopathic-like stalking can relate to this woman’s story. The fact that it was over such a relatively small amount of money is amazing to me, though. The lengths to which this stalker pursued his victim are also amazing to me.
Read A bully finds a pulpit on the web on NewYorkTimes.com.
This follow up article tells how, eventually, through the persistence of the victim in pursuing justice for the bullying psychopathic-like stalking she got from the abuser, it turned out that the man didn’t get away with his campaign, and now local, state and federal authorities are getting on the band wagon to go after this guy.
Read U.S. arrests online seller who scared customers on NewYorkTimes.com.
The guy even got denied bail. Yea for that judge “getting it.” It will be interesting to me to see how this plays out and just how much real jail/prison time this guy actually gets. While I can’t diagnose someone out of the newspaper, I really do feel that this man fits the criteria for many of the traits of a psychopath and he definitely is a stalker.
Harold,
Julian is definitely not normal, but there are so many other personality disorders out there in the cluster-b’s. And lots of people have several at once. they do overlap.
I would put Julian in the schizoid category. They are often the dupes of psychopaths because they tend to think in black and white, wrong or right. I think Julian is their patsy. To me, the wikileaks smells of a psychopathic tell and a distraction. While all the world watches Julian’s drama, and gets distracted by the commotion of leaks, which were stuff most of us already knew (diplomats are duplicitous, OH MY! Who would have guessed?), the psychopaths go on their merry way continuing to wreak havoc on the economy and shearing the sheeple who’ve been hypnotized by the drama.
But my exP never did anything with just one reason – no he usually had several things to gain, and several pawns to move around the board.
There is another purpose, too. The p’s like to tell us, drop hints about, what they are doing, knowing full well that you won’t understand because you would never imagine anyone could be so audacious. Serial killers like to leave signatures, or write coded messages to the police or news media. All Psychopaths like to tell. In the case of the wikileaks, I think it also serves as a “tell”. When Mastercard and Visa stopped supplying Julian with financial transmissions, they were telling us that they can control the economy. When websites stopped hosting wikileaks, they were telling us that they will control our communications. when governments began to put out wanted posters, they are telling us that the control all the governments. Everyone is mad at Julian, no one is mad at the liars and cheats that he has exposed. Can you say “scapegoat?” that’s the other thing that P’s do.
I was telling myBF about the o is for umbrella. he was shocked when he realized how profoundly true it was. then we discussed it for a few minutes. Then I picked up a black book that was on the table I handed it to him saying, ” this book is red.” He immediately went into some kind of cognitive dissonance state. When I said that the black book was red, he couldn’t speak for several seconds.
I hadn’t intended to do it I was only joking with him. but it worked exactly as Quest Described.
Hello everyone……such an enlightening post……I cannot tell you how many times I have just shook my head trying to figure out what she just said…….this site has changed my life! I remember all the decades that I had no idea what she was, but I knew she was “off”…..I had a moment yesterday…..sometimes my guilt gets the better of me and I get on that “what if I had”…..maybe she would have been different….I’m in the middle of reading Donna’s book and I was just pondering and thinking…..and something spoke to me and said…….”you cannot be responsible for what she is, because she was already what she is when you first laid eyes on her at the age of 2”. That was way before we had any history together….and I felt great relief ! The first time I ever laid eyes on her….I swear I felt a repulsion I had never experienced……I had been around kids my whole life….never had I met a 2 year old that my first instinct was to run! Here we are 30 years later……and I wish I had run…..I think I would have lost my mind if I had not found this site…….because of extended family I may never totally have NC with her…but it is so much better……at least now I have some tools to work with and the strength of my friends on here……
Dear Creampuff,
Hello dear and welcome back! I’m glad that you are coming to some resolution with the ambivalent feelings that having a “child” with psychopathy gives us. I know you have a bio daughter who is and then the step-dtr from hell-P as well.
The repulsion that we feel sometimes isn’t something we can “put our finger on” and we feel like, “HOW could I feel that way about someone I just met?” (especially a CHILD?) I’ve felt that way about a few teenagers I have come into contact with, or the occasional 10-12 year old conduct disordered child, but it is rare I think for them to give off the “aura” early on. Or for us to pick it up if they do. Doesn’t make it any less REAL to feel that way, just odd.
I’m glad that you are gaining some tools in order to cope with the chaos that she brings and I hope that you can keep your sanity and keep your life satisfying YOUR needs for peace and safety. Don’t turn your back on her! LOL (((hugs))))
Quest
I hope you’re out there. You asked a question in your post. You asked if it would still work on someone who knew about the trick. I think I have proven that it does work even when you know it possible to do it if you aren’t on your toes. If you are not expecting a lie. I was only joking with my boyfriend when I did it to him as I explained the trick at the same time. He was speechless When I told him the black book was red. and he couldn’t get any word out again until I told him that I had just played the trick on him.
I’ve used the O as in Umbrella one several times in the past few days to show a point of how peeps keep us off balance…..
NOT oNE person called BS on it.
One GF called me today and said….you know I was up half the night wanting to call you about mispelling xxxop. There is no O in umbrella.!!!
We laughed…..didn’t mean to keep her up at night though……
She’s my neurotic friend, I should have known better.
you only have one!
man, you are so last week!
Prefer ‘OLD SCHOOL’ as the kids accuse.
Oh, how they have NO idea!!!
i have often wondered what decade(s) is meant by ‘old school’.
old school like the 90’s, the 80’s? like me? like you? LIKE OXY!! snort….