From time to time, Lovefraud receives email from people who identify themselves as sociopaths. Here’s one that came in recently:
I have read your website, and i am not impressed. You give the impression that all sociopaths are murderers and haters, incapable of loving, and should be thrown away as a tragedy to the human race. You do not mention the difference between a high-functioning sociopath and a low-functioning sociopath. I happen to be a high-functioning sociopath, and your website is all lies and misguided information, and whats worse, you gain money out of creating a stigma of us, and abusing the victims of certain relationships, which although do happen, aren’t generally what high functioning sociopaths are about. Who’s the one with no conscience? I would say you.
I have no emotion, i use logic to understand what is happening. I mimic emotions of others because i know that it is important to my survival that i display emotion or otherwise people become scared. Is that really so bad? Yes, perhaps i play mind games with people because i grow so bored, but that doesn’t really harm them does it? People get over it. I don’t go out murdering puppies and kittens, and laugh like a comic villain. I may have mistreated some animals, but never with the intent of doing so. I may have hurt some people, but they get over it. I’m the one who has to pay for their hurt, they threaten my survival when they retaliate. I flirt with people a lot, but so do a lot of people, not just sociopaths. I do have some emotion, even if it is limited. I can pretend to have an emotion to convince myself. I act simply to feel.
You ’empaths’ only have emotions so that you are scared of us, when all we are are bored, and confused harmless cheeky rascals. And to point out, adult sociopaths usually stop being sociopaths after the age of 30, so its not ‘incurable’ as soon as they become an adult. You try living in a world that is black and white, where any emotion has to be forced, and you have to copy others expression, and you’re always so very bored, because i am, so bored. You can’t blame us for needing some excitement, to survive we must have a way out of our boredom. You know nothing about what you say. We have a soul, we just can’t access it as easily as everyone else.
Born with the genes
The person who wrote this letter, I was able to determine, is an attractive young woman. I’ll ignore her mischaracterizations of Lovefraud—we are obviously well aware that sociopaths are not all murderers, because most of us were involved with sociopaths who didn’t kill anyone. Beyond that, her letter provides a good insight into the reality of sociopaths, with all their rationalizations and excuses.
Even so, I do feel sorry for them.
Sociopathy is highly genetic, and no sociopaths asked to be born they way they are. No sociopaths asked for manipulative parents or uncaring home environments that pushed them further along the path towards disorder. That’s the hand they were dealt, and it’s truly sad.
Even sadder is the fact that they don’t know it’s sad. It’s like someone born blind, who doesn’t comprehend vision. Or someone born deaf, who can’t understand what music may be. They were born with a limited or nonexistent ability to love, and whatever love they did have was probably snuffed out by their own disordered parents. Instead, they have an overactive appetite for power and control.
Like this young woman, sociopaths are aware that they are different. But most of them don’t care. In fact, they take pride in their ability to exercise power, and look down on the rest of us. We are merely marks to be exploited.
Lessen the disorder
This young woman also said that people stop being sociopaths at the age of 30. There is no scientific evidence that sociopathy can be cured. The best we can usually hope for is that sociopaths will decide to comply with the mores of society, if only because it’s in their own self-interest. They do have the power to decide that following the rules is more convenient and causes them less aggravation than violating them.
Can sociopaths actually lessen their disorder? Dr. Liane Leedom is hopeful, although she recognizes that it is extremely difficult. The fact is that many brain characteristics and functions contribute to sociopathy, and the human brain is not static. Beliefs and behaviors can cause chemical and structural changes in the brain. So if sociopaths were really committed to changing their ideas, and engaged in activities that fostered empathy, their brain structures could change. An individual willing to attempt this would probably have a lesser degree of disorder to begin with, so maybe he or she would already have seeds of caring buried within, seeds that could grow into a degree of empathy.
Inaccessible soul
I was struck by the last sentence of the letter:
We have a soul, we just can’t access it as easily as everyone else.
I actually think that the young woman is right about this. The souls of sociopaths are buried under so much negativity—anger, hatred, aggression, coldness, envy and the desire for power—that the souls can’t be felt.
I don’t think those of us who have been damaged by sociopaths should attempt to help them. Our first duty is to ourselves, to our own health and recovery. But I believe that we’re all connected, and maybe in whatever communication we may have with a higher power, we can pray for them. It might take a long time, but maybe it will do some good.
Even if we don’t see any improvement in particular individuals, praying will help ourselves. Bitterness only prolongs our own misery and harms our own health. Perhaps offering prayers, from a safe distance, will make a difference all the way around.
My spath really did try to give me hints. He told me, “I lied a lot as a kid growing up.” I really didn’t question his whereabouts that much, but I’m glad for that. I don’t want to live life all suspicious and hovering. His brother told me, “He is low on guilt.” I never forgot that. Sure seemed odd, but now I know, yet another hint. His mother told me, ” why do you try feeling sorry for him.” I thought fark that. Everybody has problems and even if I pitied him, I sure did notice that he seemed pretty unconcerned how hard I worked, or how tired I was, or if I felt sick or poorly. His other brother told me, “You seem to have an excessive need to talk about things.” Spath told me, ” you talk too much.” How rude is that? i.e. why don’t you just shut up. I only need you when it’s convenient for me. He also told me, “I have feelings, I just don’t express them the way you think I ought to.” Really?? The biggest feelings I came to notice out of him were negativity, rage and anger. The only time he seemed happy was when he wanted sex and even that waned over time. I often wondered over the course of our marriage if he had been sexually abused. For sure he was verbally, emotionally, maybe physically. Yes, it’s sad, but not to the point where I will let it destroy me. I let myself get far too low, but healing happens.
Oh ya, the mistress must be a doozie. She farked my ex for probably at least 5 years, (he’s an incredible liar) but hung on long enough to eventually break up the marriage. But seriously, she did me a favor – because really my marriage had gotten to the point where it was pretty miserable and not a marriage. I still wonder the age old question though… does she now trust him after knowing that she farked a married man who found it hard to leave his family. Took him 5 years. She must be really desperate. I too am getting to the conclusion that his affair(s) are the best thing that happened to me. – Because, I am too loyal and would’ve continued to give him the benefit of a doubt or as he requested, “Can’t you cut me some slack?”
there is a distinct difference between someone who finds it difficult to access their emotions or soul and someone who has no emotions!
Michael Mosleys BBC documentary shows an interview with Dave ,who has lost his ability to feel empathy and emotions after some accident or brain surgery …i cant find the link
nevertheless he is only able to remember empathy/love etc. and fears the time when he will lose that memory , therefore it is not something burried … he has not got the ability to feel emotions or empathy anymore, similar to sociopath’s .
I believe it is wrong to think we all have that ability somewhere because it will lead us to try and discover empathy and emotions that are nonexistent in some humans
mayo,
does Dave go around FAKING emotions and plotting to deceive others so that he can revel in their suffering?
Lots of Autistics and Asperger’s people say they have low or no emotions but they keep to themselves. They don’t wear sheepskins and they aren’t filled with envy. Big difference.
Mayo, in the book, “The science of evil” (see the review here on LF) Dr. Baron-Cohen talks about and demonstrates the Bell curve of emotions in humans, just like there is a Bell curve of height and weight etc. some people have lots of empathy and some have little or none, but most people are in the middle. Having a brain injury or having a disorder like autism or aspergers does not make a person a psychopath as well.
While people with Autism or Aspergers have little empathy, Dr. Baron-cohen refers to them as Zero empathy +, and psychopaths as zero empathy negative. Psychopaths use their lack of empathy to prey on others, where as people with autism or Aspergers do not generally deliberately prey on others (there are always exceptions to any rule)
Spath is leaving for his annual tropics drug run…..it’ll include time in the ocean surfing.
Here is my prayer to the gods~
Dear God…..please feed all the hungry sharks in the ocean…..there is no need for them to starve!
**Wink~ Wink…….
AMEN!
EDIT**** One more thing God…..only after you take him miles out in a riptide (like One said)……. and maybe allow him the time in the sunshine to roast a bit, blister and swell up (more volume for the sharks). I think the sharks far out in the ocean will be hungriest and best served and plus, we don’t want to gross out the fisherman or beachgoers with anything left floating. No waste.
*AMEN
hey miss EB! good to read you. don’t trouble the sharks; ask the moon for a riptide. hens might be able to arrange that. he’s on pretty good terms with her.
A couple of points about this charming letter. First, not only have we had numerous discussions here about “high-functioning” sociopaths–we might very well have coined the term! (I’m sure the concept isn’t new, but we’ve stressed this more than anyone else as far as I can see.) So not only are we aware of their existence, many of us have repeatedly argued that they are probably significantly underrepresented in the official statistics. In short, we’ve been on to you for a long time!
The other point I would make is that what makes these people so damnably irritating, is not so much their “internal wiring” (perhaps that IS out of their control, who knows?), but rather the laughably adolescent ways in which they are continually acting out and impinging on other peoples’ lives. Indeed, I’m bored all the time, but that’s why I have a telescope and books and a Netflix account! And that really is the difference between us and them: we are the grown-ups, and sublimate our boredom and anxiety into “higher order” activities (not to say that Netflix is a particularly “higher order” activity!); whereas they are in a state of perpetual infantalism, where the only pleasures of which they are capable, are to the rest of us, far too base, crude and demeaning to even contemplate! (In other words, we don’t do what they do, not so much because we are more “moral”–though that is part of it. It’s more that we view that sort of lifesyle as simply BENEATH US.)
The best analogy I’ve ever heard in this respect, is the one Cleckley uses in The Mask of Sanity. He says it’s like being at the symphony and listening to a fine rendition of Beethoven’s Ninth. So while all the adults are listening entranced to the “Ode to Joy,” the little ten year olds in the back (= the sociopaths in this analogy) are completely preoccupied with throwing spitballs, and zinging their elders with pea shooters! And when you think about it, their real world activities are pretty much of the same order. That is, since they are incapable of taking any meaningful part in the “human drama,” they basically just sit on the sidelines and pick the rest of us off with their metaphorical pea shooters! (Though these, admittedly, become much more serious with age.)
So I disagree with this notion that there is anything romantic or glamorous about their slovenly and parasitic approach to life. Personally, more than anything else, I just find them unbelievably childish–and ANNOYING!
Dear Sky,
I didn’t see your post about Asperger’s. Funny, I was going to make literally the same point! Thanks for saving me the time–I’m glad to see we think alike!
Constantine, I remember seeing the red flag rippling when my n ex talked about ‘sitting on the sidelines, at the back of the class’ in grad school. It’s not an analogy.
If she hadn’t had some legit reasons to feel picked on (in her case racism) I would have seen the n in her a lot more quickly. Instead I just felt confused about because I didn’t feel i could challenge her on something so obviously real and difficult for so many people. But I should have. many times.
My favourite story about her is her being horrid to a cab driver because he wasn’t getting to a meditation evening quickly enough for her. snort!
Man, I felt bruised in that relationship.