From time to time, Lovefraud receives email from people who identify themselves as sociopaths. Here’s one that came in recently:
I have read your website, and i am not impressed. You give the impression that all sociopaths are murderers and haters, incapable of loving, and should be thrown away as a tragedy to the human race. You do not mention the difference between a high-functioning sociopath and a low-functioning sociopath. I happen to be a high-functioning sociopath, and your website is all lies and misguided information, and whats worse, you gain money out of creating a stigma of us, and abusing the victims of certain relationships, which although do happen, aren’t generally what high functioning sociopaths are about. Who’s the one with no conscience? I would say you.
I have no emotion, i use logic to understand what is happening. I mimic emotions of others because i know that it is important to my survival that i display emotion or otherwise people become scared. Is that really so bad? Yes, perhaps i play mind games with people because i grow so bored, but that doesn’t really harm them does it? People get over it. I don’t go out murdering puppies and kittens, and laugh like a comic villain. I may have mistreated some animals, but never with the intent of doing so. I may have hurt some people, but they get over it. I’m the one who has to pay for their hurt, they threaten my survival when they retaliate. I flirt with people a lot, but so do a lot of people, not just sociopaths. I do have some emotion, even if it is limited. I can pretend to have an emotion to convince myself. I act simply to feel.
You ’empaths’ only have emotions so that you are scared of us, when all we are are bored, and confused harmless cheeky rascals. And to point out, adult sociopaths usually stop being sociopaths after the age of 30, so its not ‘incurable’ as soon as they become an adult. You try living in a world that is black and white, where any emotion has to be forced, and you have to copy others expression, and you’re always so very bored, because i am, so bored. You can’t blame us for needing some excitement, to survive we must have a way out of our boredom. You know nothing about what you say. We have a soul, we just can’t access it as easily as everyone else.
Born with the genes
The person who wrote this letter, I was able to determine, is an attractive young woman. I’ll ignore her mischaracterizations of Lovefraud—we are obviously well aware that sociopaths are not all murderers, because most of us were involved with sociopaths who didn’t kill anyone. Beyond that, her letter provides a good insight into the reality of sociopaths, with all their rationalizations and excuses.
Even so, I do feel sorry for them.
Sociopathy is highly genetic, and no sociopaths asked to be born they way they are. No sociopaths asked for manipulative parents or uncaring home environments that pushed them further along the path towards disorder. That’s the hand they were dealt, and it’s truly sad.
Even sadder is the fact that they don’t know it’s sad. It’s like someone born blind, who doesn’t comprehend vision. Or someone born deaf, who can’t understand what music may be. They were born with a limited or nonexistent ability to love, and whatever love they did have was probably snuffed out by their own disordered parents. Instead, they have an overactive appetite for power and control.
Like this young woman, sociopaths are aware that they are different. But most of them don’t care. In fact, they take pride in their ability to exercise power, and look down on the rest of us. We are merely marks to be exploited.
Lessen the disorder
This young woman also said that people stop being sociopaths at the age of 30. There is no scientific evidence that sociopathy can be cured. The best we can usually hope for is that sociopaths will decide to comply with the mores of society, if only because it’s in their own self-interest. They do have the power to decide that following the rules is more convenient and causes them less aggravation than violating them.
Can sociopaths actually lessen their disorder? Dr. Liane Leedom is hopeful, although she recognizes that it is extremely difficult. The fact is that many brain characteristics and functions contribute to sociopathy, and the human brain is not static. Beliefs and behaviors can cause chemical and structural changes in the brain. So if sociopaths were really committed to changing their ideas, and engaged in activities that fostered empathy, their brain structures could change. An individual willing to attempt this would probably have a lesser degree of disorder to begin with, so maybe he or she would already have seeds of caring buried within, seeds that could grow into a degree of empathy.
Inaccessible soul
I was struck by the last sentence of the letter:
We have a soul, we just can’t access it as easily as everyone else.
I actually think that the young woman is right about this. The souls of sociopaths are buried under so much negativity—anger, hatred, aggression, coldness, envy and the desire for power—that the souls can’t be felt.
I don’t think those of us who have been damaged by sociopaths should attempt to help them. Our first duty is to ourselves, to our own health and recovery. But I believe that we’re all connected, and maybe in whatever communication we may have with a higher power, we can pray for them. It might take a long time, but maybe it will do some good.
Even if we don’t see any improvement in particular individuals, praying will help ourselves. Bitterness only prolongs our own misery and harms our own health. Perhaps offering prayers, from a safe distance, will make a difference all the way around.
Hi Kim!
Good to hear from you. I miss reading your posts, but I hope that all is well for you out there in the “real world.”
Thanks sky. I agree. It’s just that his lifestyle (or sought-after lifestyle) very well could have put me at threat for contracting AIDS/HIV. That scares me .. His deceit knew no bounds..all those other swingers’ “handles” I found on his Buddy list..good thing I kept it..exposed THAT in my profile on him, too.. It is also that I think he entered into THREE marriages fraudulently. I can understand ONE divorce, maybe two..but, as someone stated under my profile on him, “in [so and so’s] book, Toxic Men, the author explains that, while a man who is toxic to one woman may not be toxic to the next..when you see that a male has been toxic to THREE VERY DIFFERENT WOMEN IN A ROW..each of them long-term relationships, the expression, “one woman’s garbage is another woman’s treasure” ..well..how many of you want to wager that he won’t be toxic to the next, VERY DIFFERENT and subsequent woman, whom he marries or lives with, after that..his bad history with women FLIES IN THE FACE of the expression, “one woman’s garbage is another woman’s treasure” .. the only thing all four of us had was that each of us were at very vulnerable stages of our lives, at the stage he seduced us, each..first wife, not sure about, second wife had a baby out of wedlock from probably ANOTHER SPATH, then he entered her life to adopt her son, a toddler..I worry about his son, too..wonder if he molested him .. And his 2nd ex father-in-law should worry about that, too, if I were him.. I have no clue what his “true” sexual preference, as to gender, was/is; I only know that his first wife told me that TWO of her gay male friends told her they had sex with him, WHILE she lived with him or was married to him. She also told me that her baby sister stayed overnight at their home and “woke up” to him “stroking her privates”.. so, yes..I AM CONCERNED that he might be a PEDOPHILE, too.. Marriage to his first wife only lasted about a year. Marriage to his 2nd, about 12 or 13 years, I think.. He even admitted that his 2nd father-in-law, during my spath’s divorce proceedings from 2nd wife, wanted to “permanently put him out of business— that was a MAJOR “tell” I should have heeded.. His first wife, after her experience with him, became a social worker. I sort of wish she would take a “handle” up here, to chime in about him, even if doing so means she needs to describe him as a different SPATH then the one I know/knew. I also hope, one day, that her baby sister (by now, all grown up) will see my profile on him, and confirm what her sis said about him molesting her out of a dead sleep. Those things will bring more closure for me. I don’t bank on it, though, nor wait with baited breath and anxiety for that to happen (that would be like sitting by a phone waiting for a SPATH to call, when you KNOW that is what he wants you to do—be ON EDGE), but it sure would be nice if that happened. It would be a “feather in my cap” if she did. Better yet.., I hope some gay guy he sexed in his past RECOGNIZES his profile, and CONFIRMS what his 1st wife and I KNOW. That would be a SECOND “feather in my cap” .. It still bothers me when others do not realize the DANGER of spaths, when you try to explain what they are, and you get platitudes like, “you should have been done thinking about what he did long ago” or “you’re wallowing in it”..when you are MERELY trying to PROTECT other women..future victims from him. They JUST DON’T KNOW unless they’ve BEEN THERE.~ Zim
Kim, you are right. I just wonder if what we Call feeling and they call feeling are the same. We know what real love and empathy feel like. Do they really? They are just mirrors that distort as feeling and emotion consume two people of a like mind. Because we don’t have the vocabulary to say what’s really going on with them we give them our definition. I suspect its not even real for them.just an act when there is an eye to notice or an ear to hear. Otherwise there trying to stick their own heads up their butts.
Secretly, I hope that my ex’s (spath’s..I allege) adopted son will confess to his grandfather, that his adoptive father molested him (no..I do not know if or not that happened..but it would not surprise me, if it did.) If so, then all will be revealed. If that happens, I hope the grandfather will “take him out” (if you know what I mean) .. that boy..his adoptive son, whenever he was around us, every year, when at our place, well..I only witnessed him giving ONE present to his father, all those years, and he ALWAYS had a scowl on his face. He tried to be a Ranger in the US Army ( I thought that was a GOOD move for him, then), but he did not make it through boot camp. Very sad. I think his adoptive father’s behavior “did a number” on him. I felt very deeply empathetic for that son. I doubt he knew it, though. ~ Zim
Yes, Skylar..I felt sorry for the adopted son of my ex, expecially when that son did not get through boot camp, when he wanted to be a US Army Ranger. In CONTRAST, I felt sorrow even more, when I knew that my best friend, since age 15, had a son, also born out of wedlock (who a MAN, not a BOY, from our high school days, ADOPTED that son, and that son SUCCEEDED in a career, in INTELLIGENCE, in the US Marines, worked in Iraq!..so I know what a DIFFERENCE it makes, between a male who ADOPTS a son, but later ABANDONS his wife, and my best friend’s hubby, who HAS A GOOD GOVT. CARREER.., has had that for more than two decades, doesn’t BALK when his wife loses her job, and also ADOPTED her son, and REMAINS a RESONSIBLE husband to my best friend..more than 20 years later. Vivre La Difference!
Sincerely, Zim
Take the absurd lesson, from the film, Zhorba The Greek, to realize the AWFUL double standard that exists in the Male Dominant Society..lesson being, from that film, a woman should not venture to imagine that her SEX DRIVE or “needs” are even EQUAL to his..and, if she wants true love..ventures that way..opens herself up to TRUSTING another, who she THINKS is a human being (but who really is not..he has no capacity to give her what she seeks) .. HOW DARE SHE want an EQUAL partner in life? And the IGNORANT Greek males in her village want to DO HER IN..KILL HER..FOR her even IMAGINING a possibility that she might be fulfilled, to finally find a partner/mate, who could deliver SHEER JOY and MONOGAMY to her! In that film, the woman who had such hope, was STONED TO DEATH, mostly by SICK MISOGYNISTS!
Though I have mostly..most of my life, believed in the “traditional” role of men, I know there are other males who will ABUSE this philosophy. They are, typically, I think, males who WILL NOT SUPPORT WOMEN, psychologically/financially, or otherwise, through women’s trying times in life, like, when the economic times and job market are AGAINST her. ~Zim
Take the absurd lesson, from the film, Zhorba The Greek, to realize the AWFUL double standard that exists in the Male Dominant Society..lesson being, from that film, a woman should not venture to imagine that her SEX DRIVE or “needs” are even EQUAL to his..and, if she wants true love..ventures that way..opens herself up to TRUSTING another, who she THINKS is a human being (but who really is not..he has no capacity to give her what she seeks) .. HOW DARE SHE want an EQUAL partner in life? And the IGNORANT Greek males in her village want to DO HER IN..KILL HER..FOR her even IMAGINING a possibility that she might be fulfilled, to finally find a partner/mate, who could deliver SHEER JOY and MONOGAMY to her! In that film, the woman who had such hope, was STONED TO DEATH, mostly by SICK MISOGYNISTS!
Though I have mostly..most of my life, believed in the “traditional” role of men, I know there are other males who will ABUSE this philosophy. They are, typically, I think, males who WILL NOT SUPPORT WOMEN, psychologically/financially, or otherwise, through women’s trying times in life, like, when the economic times and job market are AGAINST her. ~Zim
My message to the SPATHS of this world: You, AZZHOLES, tried to DESTROY my ability to TRUST others, not just other men, but other women. You did that because YOU have DEEP PSYCHOLOGICAL INSECURITIES within YOURSELF, that you PROJECT on the women you have VICTIMIZED! I let you know this because, before you, I was an exceptionally BEAUTIFUL woman, both PHYSICALLY and SPIRITUALLY (not boasting, but I was a model in my teens, had ample academic achievements, before the SPATH), ..even had several marriage proposals before the SPATH entered my life, 10+ years later. I think that you HOPED you would “ride up” on the “wagon” of my successful career path, or, at least, you THOUGHT that you could connect your useless (before you met me) “wagon” onto my own, and on the “wagons” of other women before me. Guess what, SPATH…others will KNOW/LEARN who you REALLY are..in time, in time”
Zim
SPATH,
You “hitched your wagon to my star” and hoped I wouldn’t notice. I did. And so does the rest of the world, since I profiled you on the intranet..for that, I am GLAD.
Zim
Did any of you read about the spath in Idaho who tortured his 8 year old step-son for sadistic pleasure? The kid was permanently living with his dad but visited his mother in the Summer of 2009. His step-father continually tortured him and his natural mother allowed it. (She also had to more than likely be a spath as well. No normal human mother would have allowed it.) Anyhow the kid had bruises all over his body so his step-father murdered him days before he was due to go home to his real dad so the kid wouldn’t talk and tell what was going on.
Apparently the real mother had 2 kids with the spath husband that had been taken away and she had just regained custody of them after going for parenting classes. The spath was afraid if the kid talked DCS would come back into the case so he murdered the kid to silence him and the real mother helped him get rid of the body. The kid was thrown into a river weighted down with rocks but divers found him.
All the while the mother and step-dad are claiming abduction.
They were found out and step-dad got life in prison on Sept 1st. 2011. Mom was sentenced to 25 years as co-conspirator.
Joanie123
Sick. Is there a link to the story?