From time to time, Lovefraud receives email from people who identify themselves as sociopaths. Here’s one that came in recently:
I have read your website, and i am not impressed. You give the impression that all sociopaths are murderers and haters, incapable of loving, and should be thrown away as a tragedy to the human race. You do not mention the difference between a high-functioning sociopath and a low-functioning sociopath. I happen to be a high-functioning sociopath, and your website is all lies and misguided information, and whats worse, you gain money out of creating a stigma of us, and abusing the victims of certain relationships, which although do happen, aren’t generally what high functioning sociopaths are about. Who’s the one with no conscience? I would say you.
I have no emotion, i use logic to understand what is happening. I mimic emotions of others because i know that it is important to my survival that i display emotion or otherwise people become scared. Is that really so bad? Yes, perhaps i play mind games with people because i grow so bored, but that doesn’t really harm them does it? People get over it. I don’t go out murdering puppies and kittens, and laugh like a comic villain. I may have mistreated some animals, but never with the intent of doing so. I may have hurt some people, but they get over it. I’m the one who has to pay for their hurt, they threaten my survival when they retaliate. I flirt with people a lot, but so do a lot of people, not just sociopaths. I do have some emotion, even if it is limited. I can pretend to have an emotion to convince myself. I act simply to feel.
You ’empaths’ only have emotions so that you are scared of us, when all we are are bored, and confused harmless cheeky rascals. And to point out, adult sociopaths usually stop being sociopaths after the age of 30, so its not ‘incurable’ as soon as they become an adult. You try living in a world that is black and white, where any emotion has to be forced, and you have to copy others expression, and you’re always so very bored, because i am, so bored. You can’t blame us for needing some excitement, to survive we must have a way out of our boredom. You know nothing about what you say. We have a soul, we just can’t access it as easily as everyone else.
Born with the genes
The person who wrote this letter, I was able to determine, is an attractive young woman. I’ll ignore her mischaracterizations of Lovefraud—we are obviously well aware that sociopaths are not all murderers, because most of us were involved with sociopaths who didn’t kill anyone. Beyond that, her letter provides a good insight into the reality of sociopaths, with all their rationalizations and excuses.
Even so, I do feel sorry for them.
Sociopathy is highly genetic, and no sociopaths asked to be born they way they are. No sociopaths asked for manipulative parents or uncaring home environments that pushed them further along the path towards disorder. That’s the hand they were dealt, and it’s truly sad.
Even sadder is the fact that they don’t know it’s sad. It’s like someone born blind, who doesn’t comprehend vision. Or someone born deaf, who can’t understand what music may be. They were born with a limited or nonexistent ability to love, and whatever love they did have was probably snuffed out by their own disordered parents. Instead, they have an overactive appetite for power and control.
Like this young woman, sociopaths are aware that they are different. But most of them don’t care. In fact, they take pride in their ability to exercise power, and look down on the rest of us. We are merely marks to be exploited.
Lessen the disorder
This young woman also said that people stop being sociopaths at the age of 30. There is no scientific evidence that sociopathy can be cured. The best we can usually hope for is that sociopaths will decide to comply with the mores of society, if only because it’s in their own self-interest. They do have the power to decide that following the rules is more convenient and causes them less aggravation than violating them.
Can sociopaths actually lessen their disorder? Dr. Liane Leedom is hopeful, although she recognizes that it is extremely difficult. The fact is that many brain characteristics and functions contribute to sociopathy, and the human brain is not static. Beliefs and behaviors can cause chemical and structural changes in the brain. So if sociopaths were really committed to changing their ideas, and engaged in activities that fostered empathy, their brain structures could change. An individual willing to attempt this would probably have a lesser degree of disorder to begin with, so maybe he or she would already have seeds of caring buried within, seeds that could grow into a degree of empathy.
Inaccessible soul
I was struck by the last sentence of the letter:
We have a soul, we just can’t access it as easily as everyone else.
I actually think that the young woman is right about this. The souls of sociopaths are buried under so much negativity—anger, hatred, aggression, coldness, envy and the desire for power—that the souls can’t be felt.
I don’t think those of us who have been damaged by sociopaths should attempt to help them. Our first duty is to ourselves, to our own health and recovery. But I believe that we’re all connected, and maybe in whatever communication we may have with a higher power, we can pray for them. It might take a long time, but maybe it will do some good.
Even if we don’t see any improvement in particular individuals, praying will help ourselves. Bitterness only prolongs our own misery and harms our own health. Perhaps offering prayers, from a safe distance, will make a difference all the way around.
wisergirl, AMEN on all your points! well said.
Yea, they have a soul alright, an inhuman one. I still stick by the belief shared by many that the ‘sociopaths’ are the children of the gods/ or the nephilim.
Yes, my dear I have recovered from what my ‘sociopath” husband did to me but I still carry the scars. Such as playing the game of marriage knowing full well what he was and not disclosing it to me.
I still haven’t told you folks the worse of it or how I tried to kill myself when I found out the truth and how I was saved by a good Samaritan with a real human soul.
The fact that his so called “human relatives” were in on the scam with him and how they tried to hide the truth from me leaves a lot to be answered for.
He was a monster but how they can live with themselves by hiding the truth from me leaves me flabbergasted.
On Halloween I plan on writing an essay telling you all what I know about the ‘nephilim.’
I’ve held back a lot because most rational folks don’t want to believe in the ‘bogey man.’ But on all Hallows Eve the two worlds- the human world/ and the invisible world become one through the thin veil and it’s probably the only time of the year people are interested in hearing a good tale.
Oh please . . Give me a break!
This is the PITY PLOY that Martha Stout talks about, in “The Sociopath Next Door”
I don’t feel sorry for HER. I feel sorry for her VICTIMS.
(Been there . . . Done that!)
Joanie:
I shall look forward to your story…
Holy crap! Half way through this (as I am reading it to my son) I start thinking this sounds exactly like my spath sister in law! She is not the brightest of people, but thinks she knows it all. My son laughed at the 30 yo thing. Umm, don’t we all wish it only lasted until they were 30! Anyway, I do think it could be her, and if it is she is way more destruction and dangerous than appearing in this letter. Bored doesn’t describe it. Ruining people’s lives for power and to feed her N side is more like it! My mom just told me today to watch my butt with her. She said the SIL is seriously out to get me any chance she gets. (I live far away and I am not afraid of her.)
Just seems odd. Too many familars in the wording and attitude of it. It could be a relative of hers, though. Just never know!
Hi Jen. I have to confess I had the same feeling, and my ex spath is a guy even. I think we are just witnessing that no matter how they look, what gender, or what mask they wear, they ultimately have a similar interior and speak similar babble.
Also, I just realized that when I initially read this letter, I got this feeling that I can only ever remember having the first time I saw a dead body. It’s a very distinct emotion. Reading this letter feels exactly like looking at a dead body.
Lastly, is it possible for an spath to also be bipolar, or is that kinda built into being an spath already? Cause my ex spath can be black and white at the exact same time, yet for some reason, he either is completely unaware that he’s a walking contradiction, or he is aware yet thinks no one else can tell. Or are these people ever bipolar too?
I’m crying right now because I know my mom is a spath and I feel so bad for her. It must be horrible for her. I’m so grateful that she didn’t kill me. I’m sure she wanted to. she told me she never wanted kids. She wanted to abort my little sister but the doc talked her out of it. She told me she only had kids because my dad wanted them. But dad didn’t like kids. He told me he doesn’t like children but he has enjoyed us much more as adults.
I’m understanding spaths more and more. I feel so bad for my parents. i realize that it is only by the grace of God that I’m not a spath. I almost was one. my brother and sister are. I did some very spathy things when I was 12.
The boredom that the spath person speaks of isn’t boredom,it’s anxiety and fear. she goes into a hysteroidal cycle and needs drama to create a catharsis.
When Superkid’s exspath said, “someone has to die.” that was part of the hysteroidal cycle that humanity is addicted to. The only thing thing that keeps the human race from sinking into the scapegoat (somebody has to die) cycle, is empathy.
Google Lloyd DeMuse. childhood history.
Sounds like a relative of mine this, also an attractive young woman, in fact an unnervingly pretty and intelligent one, who is most definitely a sociopath. The eyes – that creepy, dead, stare, and the flashes of darkness that cross her eyes as she speaks. Nobody else in the family has those weird eyes, but her. It pains me to say it, because we have a lot in common, even look alike, and could be really good friends if she weren’t so volatile, but I couldn’t deny that coldness, those eyes. If she looked on the outside, like she does on the inside, she’d be whole lot less pretty! Much like the one who wrote the letter, she doesn’t care if she hurts people, even her own family. she has no conscience.Recently was the first time she had seen me in two years, since she spread libellous lies/accusations all over the internet about me. Whilst I was clearly nervous as she walked in the room, even though I am ten years older than her, because of the trouble that had been caused – I almost got a lawyer involved – she was cool as a cucumber and showed no anxiety whatsoever. That was my first clue – it was like nothing had happened. If I had done what she did to an older relative, and it was the first time I had seen them since, I would be quite nervous and contrite seeing them sat there as I walked in. She simply did not understand the level of danger she was in, back then when she almost got a solicitors letter and restraining order from me, and now when she brazenly walked in like nothing had happened, even giving me the odd dirty look at first when I glanced at her a couple of times (sizing up my enemy I guess!) as if to say ‘What the hell is she staring at’
This one, writing here, she has no soul – let’s not kid ourselves. Look at what she has written: “Yes, perhaps i play mind games with people because i grow so bored, but that doesn’t really harm them does it? People get over it. I may have hurt some people, but they get over it. I’m the one who has to pay for their hurt, they threaten my survival when they retaliate…”
People get over it? It doesn’t really harm them? WTF??!! I felt physically SICK when my aforementioned relative launched her hate campaign against me a couple of years ago, because I couldn’t understand how my own flesh and blood could hate me so much when I had been nothing but good to her. I had done nothing to deserve it -she took something innocuous I had said, and twisted it because she was, like this writer, clearly ‘bored’ and felt like playing mind games. She had attmepted a few mind games prior to this big one, which I had rebuffed/not allowed her to get a foothold with because I was onto her by then. She was determined to alleviate her ‘boredom’ though, and almost got herself a criminal record in the process, only she was family and forthis reason I was merciful enough to warn her about what I was going to do beforehand, to give her a chance to stop her behaviour! Which she did….
Look, seriously, in my view, it’s not boredom that motivates them to attempt to destroy minds and hearts – it’s EVIL! Evil exists, simply because love exists. Darkness exists because light exists. We live in a universe of duality. What I saw in her eyes that evening was not a troubled soul, or a tortured human being who could not access their soul. What I saw was pure, unadulterated, evil and it made me feel so sick and traumatised by the reality of who this family member was, that I felt drained for two days after. I had hoped she was merely troubled, and that we could have some semblance of a friendship, but it was not the case, and I would only be puttng myself in danger by denying the truth. There is no soul there – only evil. There is a lump of ice where a heart should be. She is not the type of person you could have a heart to heart with – she might be fine with you at first, but she will use your vulnerabilty and what you have shared with her later on against you in some twisted discrediting campaign when she is ‘bored’ The reality of it truly hurts, I would rather not be typing this right now, but I know me and my relative will never have a nice, normal, human relationship because one of us, frankly, is not human! She’s a predator, a demon in human form; that’s how I see her… xx
None the less when you have had a bad experience the majority of your friends and family will tell you to hurry up and “get over it” and what a painful experience that is for you. They do not understand the pain the sociopath caused you and the sociopath does not understand your pain either.
sky – please remember to cry for sky.
i know your grattitude is heartlfelt and i know you are compassionate – but it is disturbing also. i cannot say do not weep for her, do not be grateful; but i look in horror at how low your bar is set.
i doubt that not killing you had little to do with her moral compass, and I don’t know that should get any credit for it. maybe i am reading your post wrong – maybe yo are grateful in a general way, not grateful to her. well, i am grateful you are here, and that you have a chance to remove yourself from spathland….the truth will set you free, but first it will make you hurt like hell.
find your boundaries, find your emo balls and break the trauma bond. your acceptance is a good thing – but always (?) you are lacking in anger, and not in a good way. i just sat back for a moment and thought about how i would feel if i was in a position to say that i was grateful that my father didn’t kill me – INSTANTANEOUS ANGER.
hope i am not ust blah blahing and didn’t miss the point – i am so not good first thing in the morning.
we all care so much for you and about you sky, me included. i want nothing but the best for you – whatever that is.