From time to time, Lovefraud receives email from people who identify themselves as sociopaths. Here’s one that came in recently:
I have read your website, and i am not impressed. You give the impression that all sociopaths are murderers and haters, incapable of loving, and should be thrown away as a tragedy to the human race. You do not mention the difference between a high-functioning sociopath and a low-functioning sociopath. I happen to be a high-functioning sociopath, and your website is all lies and misguided information, and whats worse, you gain money out of creating a stigma of us, and abusing the victims of certain relationships, which although do happen, aren’t generally what high functioning sociopaths are about. Who’s the one with no conscience? I would say you.
I have no emotion, i use logic to understand what is happening. I mimic emotions of others because i know that it is important to my survival that i display emotion or otherwise people become scared. Is that really so bad? Yes, perhaps i play mind games with people because i grow so bored, but that doesn’t really harm them does it? People get over it. I don’t go out murdering puppies and kittens, and laugh like a comic villain. I may have mistreated some animals, but never with the intent of doing so. I may have hurt some people, but they get over it. I’m the one who has to pay for their hurt, they threaten my survival when they retaliate. I flirt with people a lot, but so do a lot of people, not just sociopaths. I do have some emotion, even if it is limited. I can pretend to have an emotion to convince myself. I act simply to feel.
You ’empaths’ only have emotions so that you are scared of us, when all we are are bored, and confused harmless cheeky rascals. And to point out, adult sociopaths usually stop being sociopaths after the age of 30, so its not ‘incurable’ as soon as they become an adult. You try living in a world that is black and white, where any emotion has to be forced, and you have to copy others expression, and you’re always so very bored, because i am, so bored. You can’t blame us for needing some excitement, to survive we must have a way out of our boredom. You know nothing about what you say. We have a soul, we just can’t access it as easily as everyone else.
Born with the genes
The person who wrote this letter, I was able to determine, is an attractive young woman. I’ll ignore her mischaracterizations of Lovefraud—we are obviously well aware that sociopaths are not all murderers, because most of us were involved with sociopaths who didn’t kill anyone. Beyond that, her letter provides a good insight into the reality of sociopaths, with all their rationalizations and excuses.
Even so, I do feel sorry for them.
Sociopathy is highly genetic, and no sociopaths asked to be born they way they are. No sociopaths asked for manipulative parents or uncaring home environments that pushed them further along the path towards disorder. That’s the hand they were dealt, and it’s truly sad.
Even sadder is the fact that they don’t know it’s sad. It’s like someone born blind, who doesn’t comprehend vision. Or someone born deaf, who can’t understand what music may be. They were born with a limited or nonexistent ability to love, and whatever love they did have was probably snuffed out by their own disordered parents. Instead, they have an overactive appetite for power and control.
Like this young woman, sociopaths are aware that they are different. But most of them don’t care. In fact, they take pride in their ability to exercise power, and look down on the rest of us. We are merely marks to be exploited.
Lessen the disorder
This young woman also said that people stop being sociopaths at the age of 30. There is no scientific evidence that sociopathy can be cured. The best we can usually hope for is that sociopaths will decide to comply with the mores of society, if only because it’s in their own self-interest. They do have the power to decide that following the rules is more convenient and causes them less aggravation than violating them.
Can sociopaths actually lessen their disorder? Dr. Liane Leedom is hopeful, although she recognizes that it is extremely difficult. The fact is that many brain characteristics and functions contribute to sociopathy, and the human brain is not static. Beliefs and behaviors can cause chemical and structural changes in the brain. So if sociopaths were really committed to changing their ideas, and engaged in activities that fostered empathy, their brain structures could change. An individual willing to attempt this would probably have a lesser degree of disorder to begin with, so maybe he or she would already have seeds of caring buried within, seeds that could grow into a degree of empathy.
Inaccessible soul
I was struck by the last sentence of the letter:
We have a soul, we just can’t access it as easily as everyone else.
I actually think that the young woman is right about this. The souls of sociopaths are buried under so much negativity—anger, hatred, aggression, coldness, envy and the desire for power—that the souls can’t be felt.
I don’t think those of us who have been damaged by sociopaths should attempt to help them. Our first duty is to ourselves, to our own health and recovery. But I believe that we’re all connected, and maybe in whatever communication we may have with a higher power, we can pray for them. It might take a long time, but maybe it will do some good.
Even if we don’t see any improvement in particular individuals, praying will help ourselves. Bitterness only prolongs our own misery and harms our own health. Perhaps offering prayers, from a safe distance, will make a difference all the way around.
Thanks for posting the letter. It really gave me chills. They’re just plain evil in my book – the evil that walks among us. Not to make a Star Trek reference, but I will anyway. They’re like the Borg – in that you cannot reason with them. They’ll never see it. They’ll never care about the hurt, anguish, nightmares, and tears.
Once I understand what had happened to me – after he disappeared without a word and would not respond to my messages, emails, etc. I knew that trying to make him understand what he had done was pointless. I’ve started doing Yoga and Tai Chi. It helps with the nightmares and it really does help calm your mind and gives me something else to focus on. He / it has moved on to a new victim – he even married her. I tried to warn her – but alas, I’m sure he had already filled her head with lies about me and I only looked like a vengeful harpy. Through friends of friends they’ve tried to warn her, but as far as I know she’s still married to him. Any advice on how much we should try to derail their next gravy trains? I feel I’ve tried to do what I could. I don’t want to go too far and wind up back on his radar – an evil desperate being with no soul is capable of anything.
Dear Firewoman,
Welcome to LF…sorry you have a need to be here, but since you do, this is a good place to be.
“Derailing” their next and next and next victim is an endless and futile process….and it just keeps them in your head, renting space that could be filled with happiness and peace, so my suggestion to you at this point is to LET HIM GO INTO THE UNIVERSE, he is not your responsibility and neither are his victims (most of them would not listen anyway as you already found out.)
Our paths start out about them, learning about them, etc. but then once they are out of our lives, we must evict them from our heads and hearts, and then the path becomes about US, NOT THEM. About healing our selves, our wounds and what made us vulnerable to them in the first place. It is as much a spiritual journey as anything (not religious, but SPIRITUAL, the spirit of ourselves) Though in some of us, our spirit and our religious beliefs have also been improved as well. Again, welcome! God bless.
Stomping in rain puddles,
Research shows many psychopaths are ALSO bi-polar, I think about a third of them at least, many are also ADHD and a higher percentage of them are left handed as well…so your observation about the bi-polar is quite right on. BI-polar and ADHD are both genetic as well as psychopathy, along with some environmental triggers as well. It is also possible that the psychopath has bi-polar, ADHD AND is left handed. I know one that had all of it and he was also a sexual predator of children and ex convict…my psychopathic son is left handed but I know is not ADHD and I don’t really know about the bi-polar as I have not been around him enough since he was over 16 (he’s in prison) to really notice the signs of bi-polar and they don’t usually show up until later in adolescence (at least after puberty) A lot of the “signs” of psychopathy and the mania of bi-polar sort of over lap anyway, the grandiose thinking, the narcissistic attitude, the lack of learning from mistakes, etc.
Joanie123,
My in-laws knew quite a bit about the spath (the fact that he lied and was a lawbreaker) before I ever got involved with him, no-one telling me ANYTHING until we were separated (after 14 years of marriage). By then, I’d been through the mill, was a nervous wreck over my experiences via their relative. I think that common decency would cause you to warn another person (especially someone who is dating your family member) about that person, enabling the individual to make an informed decision about whether to proceed with a relationship or drop it then and there. I have a hard time liking his family members (especially the ones who were aware of his past actions) after what I’ve experienced, no matter how sweet and wonderful they come across. When I specifically said to a few of them that I wish that I’d been warned about him because I wouldn’t have married him, they had their excuses – “we thought he would change” and another relative said, “welll, you would have wanted to fix him.” I know I shouldn’t think this way, but I would like for karma to touch them on my behalf.
Spaths do NOT have a soul and are not even human I think. End of story.
I will do whatever I need to survive them, “ethical, moral” or otherwise. There are no ethics involved when you’re dealing with a non-human entity.
Bluejay,
I agree with you, if someone will not WARN you when they know there is a train about to hit you, you can’t trust them no matter how they say they care about you, blah blah blah! I came to that conclusion about my son C….he KNEW what was going on with the rest of my family, that they were trying to dirve me out of my home, bankrupt me, and so on, and HE DID NOT WARN ME…yet, I “forgave” him AND restored him to trust….bad move on my part, —the restoring trust—-I have forgiven him, but that does NOT mean I would ever trust him any further than I could pick him up and throw him. “Sheet on me once, shame on you, sheet on me twice, shame on me!”
Sky
It sounds like you really stepped into an important learning and part of your healing.
HUGS go out to you. Truly.
The author of the letter claims to be a sociopath. Well, why don’t WE tell HER to just “get over it” or “deal with it”, (just like she wants her victims to do).
Ox Drover,
I don’t know how you get over their lack of genuine caring (from family members) about your well-being, especially your son. The spath has no concern for my well-being and his family obviously doesn’t truly care either. Jesus was right when He said about his persecutors, “Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.” We can get better over time, but Joanie is right, we have scars. The spaths cause us to see life beneath the surface, I suppose, how humans really are and/or can be.
To stomping_in_rain_puddles,
Answering your question if bipolar disorder just folds in naturally with Spaths”if it comes in a bundle..
I believe it is possible that many spaths have comorbid personality disorders..can possibly be bipolar, have Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and its subcategory (I think), Disassociative Identity Disorder (what used to be called Multiple Personality Disorder, AND be schizophrenic, all at once. I sensed that my ex (spath) had several of those. And no, spathicity DOES NOT stop at age 30, contrary to what the spath’s letter above describes (maybe wishful thinking on her part) .. Though my spath was dry the whole time he lived with me (I did think, though, just once, that I smelled gin or vodka on his breath..but only once in all those years), I honestly believe all those years of active alcoholism may have created schizoaffective disorder. I think I also remember meeting one person in his extended family, who someone else in his family told me is bipolar. I saw an early family made movie, where my ex, as a toddler, was bullying another kid. As the family members watched it with me, they just laughed..as if his bullying was funny.
And no, their spathicity DOES NOT STOP after things are “over” with you. Mine, I believe, still stalks me >10 years later (spam emails, prank calls) .. About 9 years ago, I made the mistake of opening one such spam containing an attached MOVING VIDEO OF PORN..it was a man having sex with a woman who very much resembled me (hair, eyes, but not body type, but facial features were similar to mine..BUT IT WASN’T ME!)..You’re damn straight I think it was him who sent it. By then I was already with my new mate (who I’m still with) .. In fact, THEY DON’T STOP, and I think his stalking behavior has escalated lately. In fact, I intend to fill out a police report TODAY, no matter how long I have to wait at the police station. And I AM going to tell them about the COUNTY PROPERTY he admitted to stealing, when I first began dating him.
Just because we are still on our journey to healing and keep our “no contact” rule, doesn’t mean we must just sit by and let them CONTINUE harassing us.
Zim