Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader who we’ll call “Nora.” The names in this letter have been changed.
One Saturday, in October 2009, I married someone I thought was the man of my dreams. When this man came into my life last year, I had suffered several losses and was very vulnerable. I thought I had finally met an honorable, loving, understanding, romantic, Christian man. We laughed together, planned our future together, and seemed like the perfect couple. I should have remembered when something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Although I didn’t expect everything would always be rosy, soon after we were married, I discovered that everything I thought I knew about this man was based on lies. He is the complete opposite of who I thought he was and has no concept of the truth or of being in a committed, loving relationship.
From my research since leaving him, I believe this man is a sociopath, and nothing, or no one, is going to change him. He initially presents himself to be a charismatic, romantic, faithful man, but soon the real man begins to emerge – a cheating, abusive, pathological liar. When I started questioning inconsistencies in his stories, he turned everything around to try and make me feel guilty for doubting him, and that worked in the beginning. Even though I was confused as to why I was no longer feeling love from this man, I tried to convince myself that everything would work itself out. When I started to realize this man had duped me, I also started to realize he was incapable of truth or love. The fact that we recited our wedding vows in the presence of God and family meant nothing to him. Everyone, including myself, asks the same question. Why did he marry me so quickly and what did he hope to gain? I don’t think there’s an answer to this question that makes sense.
Met on a dating site
I joined a dating website in July 2009 for the same reasons that most women like me do. I was having another birthday that month and decided I wanted to meet someone to enjoy life with, as I had been living as a single woman for over five years and hadn’t dated until the last year. Since I hadn’t met anyone the usual ways, I thought this would be a good way to pick someone who matched what I was looking for in a man. It didn’t take long to get winks from lots of men, but one man’s profile stood out from the others. We are both over 50 years old, but he is several years younger than me, and I often joked that my first husband was the same age as me and my second husband older, so I was looking for a younger man the next time.
We met for our first date a few weeks later at a public garden near my home. When I got out of my car, he met me with a dozen red roses, the first of many to come. At first, he was very quiet but told me later it was because I took his breath away and he hadn’t expected me to have that affect on him. We went to dinner that night at a nearby restaurant. The evening was perfect and he was everything I had hoped for. We agreed on just about everything and the next two months seemed as if we had been together forever — that we were who the other had been hoping to find.
My mom’s advice was not to rush into anything but he convinced me we should get married, and no one tried to talk me out of getting married so soon because they tell me now I seemed happier than I had been in a long time. I never once felt alarm or noticed anything that appeared to be red flags. If I had taken my mom’s advice and waited, the truth would have eventually come out before making the biggest mistake of my life.
Quick wedding
Soon after we started dating, “Gabe” booked tickets for a day trip excursion out-of-state. When we started talking marriage, it was decided we would get married in an outdoor wedding gazebo with the fall leaves as a backdrop on the same day as the planned trip. We left on Friday, the day before the excursion and wedding ceremony, to obtain our marriage license that he applied for online. He was anxious the entire trip, worrying that we wouldn’t get to the license office before they closed. Our children were meeting us the next day for the wedding ceremony and he said he didn’t want anything to upset our plans. Once we got the license, he relaxed, and the planned excursion the next day and the wedding ceremony that night are still wonderful memories and always will be as are the days leading up to that date.
The next day, we returned home and it was decided we would start moving my furniture and belongings to live in his house. My new husband, appearing to show concern, kept asking me if I was sure that’s what I wanted to do because his house is miles away from everything I am used to. I know now that his “concern” was how he was going to keep me from discovering the truth about his numerous lies. I told him I loved living away from the big city and didn’t mind the longer drive to visit with my children or get to my job. I had been renting my condo for over five years, so he said we would keep it until the first of the year, and then purchase it and rent it out.
Discovering the lies
Turns out, Gabe had not been divorced for three years as he told me. His divorce was final one month before our first date, making him ineligible to remarry sooner than 60 days. No wonder he was a wreck about getting the marriage license. He had lied on the marriage license application stating his last divorce was May 2006.
Gabe started to “disappear” and have lame excuses when he returned. He had said he would help pay my rent and car payments to help me with the expenses of two households, but he never gave me a penny. I discovered he was talking to other women online, but didn’t say anything at first. One night I asked who one of them was. He said a friend of his for over 20 years. Turns out, she was someone he had hooked up with in late 2007. He told this woman he was divorced and had an affair with her for several months before she became suspicious and called it off.
The real man
The last week I was there, the real Gabe emerged. I discovered he had changed all of the passwords on the computer and blocked me from using it, but this time, I wasn’t backing down. I knew he was hiding things from me and let him know that’s why I had checked the computer history. I found out he hadn’t paid any of the bills he claimed to have paid for the past two months.Gabe then told me our marriage was a mistake, we wanted different things in life, he realized he never loved me and to pack my things and get out of “his” house.
At first, I refused, thinking we could work it out, but after talking to my mom, something she said clicked in my head, and I suddenly realized what I had to do and started packing.
The day before moving, Gabe and his son moved my furniture to the downstairs garage. I rented a 16-foot truck, and my daughter, son and I loaded my belongings in it and moved out on what should have been our two-month anniversary, back to the condo I was lucky to still have.
More lies
Since leaving him, I have found out the truth about so many of his lies. He isn’t a military hero as he claims. He doesn’t have a Purple Heart Award or a Bronze Medal. He uses a fabricated DD214 and Bachelor of Science diploma as credentials. He never went to college to earn a computer science degree. The university he claims to have received his degree from never heard of him.
The ring – he made a big deal about giving me “his mother’s ring.” He told me he had never felt about anyone the way he did about me, and I was so special, he wanted me to wear it. Turns out, it isn’t even his mother’s ring. He tries to guilt me into returning the ring, saying it’s a family heirloom, and he will pay for a divorce if I return it. Like I’m going to believe another lie of his? There are too many lies to list, but they also include some really insignificant ones that do nothing other than to inflate his image.
Online profiles
I started profiles as his wife in hopes of warning other women about him and not to date him. I made it so anyone searching his name would find my profiles about him instead. He’s been seen dating and I’ve had him bumped from two dating websites after informing them he’s not single as he claims, but still married.
Who found my profiles were other women from his past who he lied to. They have let me know how thankful they are that I exposed him and that it has helped them to understand what they couldn’t before now. We have become informed by sharing and comparing our stories. We’re able to laugh at how he uses the same stories and calls us all “Pretty Lady” and “Bella Principesa.” Our “support group” has drawn us together and we now focus on hopefully sharing our knowledge with others.
Won’t divorce
I can’t get him to divorce me, but that’s one of his MO’s. He tells everyone his wives are the ones who cheated on him and divorced him after leaving him with their debts. He’s the only one who did the cheating. He’s the one who is financially irresponsible and has filed for bankruptcy — a fact he dropped on me after we were married. He had shown me a meticulously kept check register that turned out to be a fake. He refuses to pay for a divorce, so for now, other women are safe from him.
After leaving him and realizing he had not been truthful about his sexual encounters, I went to my doctor to be tested. Thankfully, only one STD test came back positive and it was treated with antibiotics. When I informed him he might need to get tested since he was having sex with other women, his only response was I got infected from improper feminine hygiene. He says ignorant things like that to try and upset me, but I know the truth, and I can hold my head high knowing I did nothing wrong other than to love him and trust him without really knowing anything about him.
I hope others will see there’s no shame in this happening, but I also hope they will read my story and others like it and think as many times as it takes to really get to know a person before making a bad decision while thinking something like this, or worse, can’t happen to them.
Oxy,
I read all your posts and connected with your thoughts about healing. How we played a part in the relationship that we need to take responsiblity for. I believe I wasn’t in control of my ship, I didn’t have my oars in the water. I also allowed myself to be treated badly.
I felt better about the psychologist this week because he didn’t pursue the “Did you have abuse in your childhood” avenue. Glad my therapist told me to stick it out, also, she has my best interests at heart and if I left when I heard something that wasn’t comfortable, it could be used against me in court. If I look at the steps my therapist has taken, some may be safe decisions, but were for my benefit in the long run.
I really thank the lord that she was brought into my life because she does get it. She said that husband may not have a conscience. That it is possible. She has also helped me to be responsible for my own decisions. He wanted me to quit work, I did it. He didn’t want me to be promoted, I stepped down. Didn’t want me to go to school, well, I didn’t listen. He wasn’t supportive until they did an article about me and it was on the front page of the newspaper. Then he was all supportive. Funny how that works. But I take responsiblity for everything I did.
The new psychologist actually said “I bet you’re mad at yourself, and you felt like sh** in how you were treated” He actually said “You felt like sh**” a couple times. Never heard a therapist swear before.
Oxy- I picked up Viktor Frankl’s book today and I’m excited about reading it. I’m keeping my mind open to better things, keeping the anxiety at bay.
I found out that my daughter cut herself again, she doesn’t want me to tell her therapist. She is in pain, some of it because she’s an emotional teen, and some from the problems with her dad. It breaks my heart. She has a friend over tonight (husband is gone, he took son to the cabin), and is having fun. I need to make sure she is well taken care of while still having rules and boundaries. She is amazing. Truely.
Thanks again for listening to my ramblings.
Dear Hope4joy,
I’M GLAD YOU GOT THE BOOK, but I am going to DISENGAGE here where you and your problems are concerned.
I am allowing my frustration at your situation to effect me adversely.
It is like (for me) watching someone play with a COBRA while their child is on their lap and to keep yelling “that snake is poison, protect your child!” and they keep saying “I know the snake is poison, but I want to give it EVERY chance to change into a puppy and love me back.”
I’m sorry, Hope4joy, but I’m going to disengage from you for a while. I’m not angry at you, I just have enoughh going on in my life that I need to attend do and engaging in an endless game of “yes, I know I need to leave, but I want to give him every chance to change” is not productive for either you or me. ((((Hugs)))) and my prayers.
Oxy,
I think it’s best if I stay off this website for awhile, when I read how you felt about me, I started to cry. I’m just trying to do the right thing. That really hurt.
DEar Hope, I am not trying to drive you off the web site in any way, I am just VERY concerned about your and your daughter’s safety and I’m the one FOCUSING TOO MUCH on it. That is why I wanted to tell you why I wouldn’t be responding for a while, I respect you enough and care enough to tell you why I am “acting strange” (stranger than usual) and To let you know I am NOT ignoring you or giving you the cold shoulder in any way. ((((Hugs))))) and God bless.
Just being up front!
got it
I will submit I know Nora. I suspect I know “Canned Spam”, and I suspect I know of “Bella Principessa”. You see, I AM the woman who “had an affair of a few months” Nora mentioned. In ALL these posts, Nora is telling the truth. I have watched the on-line activity for quite some time. I DO observe & do my own investigations very carefully before interjecting what I have to say, or my opinions.
There has been so much information available & obtainable online. Did you know investigative Attorneys are now using the internet as a tool to WIN cases in court, rather than hire Private Investigators? People post so many truths online-it’s out there for the public to obtain.
Posts have been made by wife #1, and wife #2, wife #3, and finally ~me. Anyone can read, absorb what is written. Deleted or not-when you post ONLINE for public eyes-you make it PUBLIC INFORMATION. Just because you delete later, doesn’t mean someone PUBLIC hasn’t copied them. Once you post public-it IS for PUBLIC to have. Unfortunately, you can’t go back & make a new decision & retract. That information is OUT there.
I AM the affair Nora spoke of. I was lied to, told by this husband he was divorced & had been for 2 years. I WAS given gifts-which I still have. I HAVE emails to prove any claims or statements I profess as truths.
I do NOT believe calling names in a moment of anger serves any purpose. I DO believe getting all the facts may be hurtful, but the TRUTH always wins.
Nora was unsuspecting, as many of us are, or were!
I have found what I believe the common denominator in all this is the “caregiver”. I have found most of the “victims” had recently lost a parent, were vulnerable & open for NEW love, a FRESH start, at the wrong time.
I do not profess to be elegant in public writing or speaking, so I’m winging it here. I also do not refer to myself as a “victim”, just someone who started noticing the “flags” flying-when they shouldn’t have been. True Love is NOT hard. It does take effort & work, but should not be DIFFICULT.
My experience was being blind-sided on an ON-LINE dating site & na’ively trusting the words written/said to me. Clever on the part of the perpetrator. I was told the various stories of the divorces, the reasons for those divorces, etc. After gaining much knowledge by paying attention-it saddens me to realize a human being (the psychopath) can be so manipulative, so intimidating, so shallow, yet so convincing. I do NOT believe anything prepares anyone for this behavior except for experience. Well, I’d say plenty of us have that now!
When truth-telling starts evolving, children/relatives or other involved parties are not intended to be hurt. However, the perpetrator should start accepting accountability for his/her own actions & apologizing for such reckless behavior. In my experiences, I have NOT seen or witnessed a psychopath do that. When a victim is identifying a behavior that has been life altering-that is a healing process. Turning a blind eye, keeping silent-is acceptance. That acceptance is enabling the damaging behavior of the psychopath.
I could tell many stories of what I’ve witnessed in REAL life of the damage done by psychopaths. Until now I could never “tag” the behavior. NOW, it has a “name” and identifying traits. For instance: the married man who gets caught with his “flavor of the week”-then “stage” a carbon-monoxied accident-only to be “found” in time by the wife who just caught him, yet loves him/her so. The spouse who OVERSPENDS on frivilous purchases-then has ALL public convinced it is the other partner. The “Intimidator”. Aw, that one I love! The BULLY who says it’s “MY way or else”.
I’m certain in the future I will have more to contribute. Right now I feel I’ve written a chapter-just getting warmed up. I came here to support Nora, as her friend, and to participate in this forum as a tool of enlightenment. I’ve always said & will still say “You can not get reasonable & logical out of someone who is NOT reasonable & logical”.
Nora has told the truth as events have unfolded in her life. She has NOT twisted nor manipulated anything. I do know Nora’s stance is – if she can prevent another person from going through what she has just experienced-then all any negative, opposing comments will have been worth it. Someone has to be the “paver” of the road for our future, for those who proceed us. I admire Nora’s tenacious energy in being proactive about getting valuable information out there.
She IS now my friend, while still being “married” to the man who came after me twice-claiming to be “Unmarried”. I support her 100%. I am NOT angry, yet determined to get helpful information out there for those who will be placed in a similiar situation. I believe Nora has not reason to lie, no purpose to fulfill other than getting intelligent, useful information out there for possible future victims. If another person suffers the anguish told here, it’s ONE time too many!
Respectfully~
I DO believe alot of people have been hurt by the lies told by this “married man”, to many women.
gotthetshirt – I would like to know how all of you have ended up finding/ following ‘Nora’ to lovefraud.
there is nothing in your post that i find offensive in any way – but please be aware that lovefraud should not be made a battle ground.
OxDrover, Bulletproof, Hopeforjoy, Shabbychic, purewaters3, ErinBrock, and other readers of LoveFraud,
I feel like I’m wrapped in a warm, fuzzy blanket after reading your wonderful, encouraging, supportive comments. This truly is a safe place! Thank you everyone and a special thanks to Donna for providing this site.
When I first discovered LF, I was immediately impressed by the helpful advice given here, not only by medical advisors, but by the women who have experienced sociopaths. My experience may have been brief and not as harmful as other’s run-ins with sociopaths, but it is real. I never dreamed I would be fooled so easily, but your stories have been invaluable during my healing process. I wanted to share my story to show how easy it is to be fooled by sociopaths. Until you encounter one, reading our stories won’t mean a thing. It’s after the experience that you understand, and you’re able to stop questioning your ability to make rational, sane decisions based on the realization that you aren’t alone.
I don’t know why wife #2 (BellaPrinciPesa) has apologized to Gabe (canned spam) for her participation after pretending to be my friend for the past 4 months, or why she is so angry with me, as it was never my intention to cause harm to anyone. I guess he once again convinced her with his lies like he did for almost 6 years. All they accomplished was to validate what we go through, even in the aftermath. If you question someone or don’t agree with someone, you become the enemy?
I am staying calm while under fire because I know I’m not guilty of what my accusers say. Because of that, I am at peace with myself and the world.
Nora, that’s funny, I didn’t realize that CANNED SPAM was HIM! LOL I wrote a post to him about his nasty comment about “men’s opinions are not welcome here: (I had just welcomed him) and then another snide remark and then I just deleted it and went on my way, I figured wasn’t any more use trying to explain to him than to her, neither one of them had any openingxs to tyake IN information, just to spew out how they had been maligned.
I will say this to you, though, Nora, if you are spreading all this carp around on your face book page and so on, I know it might feel good right now, but many times it really just makes things linger on and give us more grief in the end. If you can beccome NO CONTACT, don’t read about him, don’t find out where he is or what or who he is doing, FOCUS on YOUR life FORWARD not his life backwards. I think you will feel much more pleaceful.
#2 did seem somewhat defensive and made mention about “if he was that way I wouldn’t have stayed with him 6 years” but I can’t judge you on what she says or what he says and I won’t.
Actually nora I think you did well NOT responding to their diatribes. Hats off to you for that! Maybe they won’t come back.
Nora-welcome to LF but I’m sad you had to end up here.
I was the woman who was conned and manipulated by the older married doctor to get into and stay in a relationship with him for a year. I have been through all the pain and agony and guilt for allowing this to happen. It really sucks to know that I gave up my sense of morality so easily due to the man “saying all the right things”.
I have had to delve deep into my life, childhood and upbringing to figure out why I have been such a magnet for these sociopaths/psychopaths. I would echo Oxy and say to please try to go COMPLETELY NO CONTACT with this man. Don’t feed into the drama and don’t entertain it. There are some women on here who seem to be addicted to the drama and it doesn’t do them any good.
I have learned SO much from the experience and I can look at it as beneficial to me becoming a whole person. I managed to lose my dream career over this and I am working my ass off to get it back. Another tidbit-please do not entertain any ex wives either. I made that mistake by letting his wife get close to me and then she totally turned on me and became a nightmare. I think his wife is as messed up as he is. They are about social status and money. He had cheated on her at least 4 times and she lets him buy her back with money and gifts each time. What kind of self respecting woman does that?
My self esteem is now on the upswing-finally, after a year of misery and pain and weight gain. I am glad that she has him instead of me and I have learned to recognize red flags of danger so that this never happens to me again.
Most of the people are on here are good and they will be very supportive-like they were for me.