Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader who we’ll call “Nora.” The names in this letter have been changed.
One Saturday, in October 2009, I married someone I thought was the man of my dreams. When this man came into my life last year, I had suffered several losses and was very vulnerable. I thought I had finally met an honorable, loving, understanding, romantic, Christian man. We laughed together, planned our future together, and seemed like the perfect couple. I should have remembered when something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Although I didn’t expect everything would always be rosy, soon after we were married, I discovered that everything I thought I knew about this man was based on lies. He is the complete opposite of who I thought he was and has no concept of the truth or of being in a committed, loving relationship.
From my research since leaving him, I believe this man is a sociopath, and nothing, or no one, is going to change him. He initially presents himself to be a charismatic, romantic, faithful man, but soon the real man begins to emerge – a cheating, abusive, pathological liar. When I started questioning inconsistencies in his stories, he turned everything around to try and make me feel guilty for doubting him, and that worked in the beginning. Even though I was confused as to why I was no longer feeling love from this man, I tried to convince myself that everything would work itself out. When I started to realize this man had duped me, I also started to realize he was incapable of truth or love. The fact that we recited our wedding vows in the presence of God and family meant nothing to him. Everyone, including myself, asks the same question. Why did he marry me so quickly and what did he hope to gain? I don’t think there’s an answer to this question that makes sense.
Met on a dating site
I joined a dating website in July 2009 for the same reasons that most women like me do. I was having another birthday that month and decided I wanted to meet someone to enjoy life with, as I had been living as a single woman for over five years and hadn’t dated until the last year. Since I hadn’t met anyone the usual ways, I thought this would be a good way to pick someone who matched what I was looking for in a man. It didn’t take long to get winks from lots of men, but one man’s profile stood out from the others. We are both over 50 years old, but he is several years younger than me, and I often joked that my first husband was the same age as me and my second husband older, so I was looking for a younger man the next time.
We met for our first date a few weeks later at a public garden near my home. When I got out of my car, he met me with a dozen red roses, the first of many to come. At first, he was very quiet but told me later it was because I took his breath away and he hadn’t expected me to have that affect on him. We went to dinner that night at a nearby restaurant. The evening was perfect and he was everything I had hoped for. We agreed on just about everything and the next two months seemed as if we had been together forever — that we were who the other had been hoping to find.
My mom’s advice was not to rush into anything but he convinced me we should get married, and no one tried to talk me out of getting married so soon because they tell me now I seemed happier than I had been in a long time. I never once felt alarm or noticed anything that appeared to be red flags. If I had taken my mom’s advice and waited, the truth would have eventually come out before making the biggest mistake of my life.
Quick wedding
Soon after we started dating, “Gabe” booked tickets for a day trip excursion out-of-state. When we started talking marriage, it was decided we would get married in an outdoor wedding gazebo with the fall leaves as a backdrop on the same day as the planned trip. We left on Friday, the day before the excursion and wedding ceremony, to obtain our marriage license that he applied for online. He was anxious the entire trip, worrying that we wouldn’t get to the license office before they closed. Our children were meeting us the next day for the wedding ceremony and he said he didn’t want anything to upset our plans. Once we got the license, he relaxed, and the planned excursion the next day and the wedding ceremony that night are still wonderful memories and always will be as are the days leading up to that date.
The next day, we returned home and it was decided we would start moving my furniture and belongings to live in his house. My new husband, appearing to show concern, kept asking me if I was sure that’s what I wanted to do because his house is miles away from everything I am used to. I know now that his “concern” was how he was going to keep me from discovering the truth about his numerous lies. I told him I loved living away from the big city and didn’t mind the longer drive to visit with my children or get to my job. I had been renting my condo for over five years, so he said we would keep it until the first of the year, and then purchase it and rent it out.
Discovering the lies
Turns out, Gabe had not been divorced for three years as he told me. His divorce was final one month before our first date, making him ineligible to remarry sooner than 60 days. No wonder he was a wreck about getting the marriage license. He had lied on the marriage license application stating his last divorce was May 2006.
Gabe started to “disappear” and have lame excuses when he returned. He had said he would help pay my rent and car payments to help me with the expenses of two households, but he never gave me a penny. I discovered he was talking to other women online, but didn’t say anything at first. One night I asked who one of them was. He said a friend of his for over 20 years. Turns out, she was someone he had hooked up with in late 2007. He told this woman he was divorced and had an affair with her for several months before she became suspicious and called it off.
The real man
The last week I was there, the real Gabe emerged. I discovered he had changed all of the passwords on the computer and blocked me from using it, but this time, I wasn’t backing down. I knew he was hiding things from me and let him know that’s why I had checked the computer history. I found out he hadn’t paid any of the bills he claimed to have paid for the past two months.Gabe then told me our marriage was a mistake, we wanted different things in life, he realized he never loved me and to pack my things and get out of “his” house.
At first, I refused, thinking we could work it out, but after talking to my mom, something she said clicked in my head, and I suddenly realized what I had to do and started packing.
The day before moving, Gabe and his son moved my furniture to the downstairs garage. I rented a 16-foot truck, and my daughter, son and I loaded my belongings in it and moved out on what should have been our two-month anniversary, back to the condo I was lucky to still have.
More lies
Since leaving him, I have found out the truth about so many of his lies. He isn’t a military hero as he claims. He doesn’t have a Purple Heart Award or a Bronze Medal. He uses a fabricated DD214 and Bachelor of Science diploma as credentials. He never went to college to earn a computer science degree. The university he claims to have received his degree from never heard of him.
The ring – he made a big deal about giving me “his mother’s ring.” He told me he had never felt about anyone the way he did about me, and I was so special, he wanted me to wear it. Turns out, it isn’t even his mother’s ring. He tries to guilt me into returning the ring, saying it’s a family heirloom, and he will pay for a divorce if I return it. Like I’m going to believe another lie of his? There are too many lies to list, but they also include some really insignificant ones that do nothing other than to inflate his image.
Online profiles
I started profiles as his wife in hopes of warning other women about him and not to date him. I made it so anyone searching his name would find my profiles about him instead. He’s been seen dating and I’ve had him bumped from two dating websites after informing them he’s not single as he claims, but still married.
Who found my profiles were other women from his past who he lied to. They have let me know how thankful they are that I exposed him and that it has helped them to understand what they couldn’t before now. We have become informed by sharing and comparing our stories. We’re able to laugh at how he uses the same stories and calls us all “Pretty Lady” and “Bella Principesa.” Our “support group” has drawn us together and we now focus on hopefully sharing our knowledge with others.
Won’t divorce
I can’t get him to divorce me, but that’s one of his MO’s. He tells everyone his wives are the ones who cheated on him and divorced him after leaving him with their debts. He’s the only one who did the cheating. He’s the one who is financially irresponsible and has filed for bankruptcy — a fact he dropped on me after we were married. He had shown me a meticulously kept check register that turned out to be a fake. He refuses to pay for a divorce, so for now, other women are safe from him.
After leaving him and realizing he had not been truthful about his sexual encounters, I went to my doctor to be tested. Thankfully, only one STD test came back positive and it was treated with antibiotics. When I informed him he might need to get tested since he was having sex with other women, his only response was I got infected from improper feminine hygiene. He says ignorant things like that to try and upset me, but I know the truth, and I can hold my head high knowing I did nothing wrong other than to love him and trust him without really knowing anything about him.
I hope others will see there’s no shame in this happening, but I also hope they will read my story and others like it and think as many times as it takes to really get to know a person before making a bad decision while thinking something like this, or worse, can’t happen to them.
ErinB-I love your variations on the word caustic. I LOVE that word. OxyD, I love your snarkiness!
I don’t tell ANYONE I know about LF. It is the sanctuary. I can’t believe Nora’s ex and the wife follow her here. I would be so miserable if that happened to me. My spath and his wife who took him back were after me for awhile because I told the truth about him to some people in our circle. I told his best friend too. Her best friend is married to her best friend and then I had four people after me. I had to change my phone number and email to remain NC because she sent me an email saying that she was going to “take me down”.
It’s funny though-I did something weird last weekend. I drove past his house for the first time-since I have a different car now. He was all about bragging about his huge mansion and how I couldn’t ever have that. The home that I grew up in, in West St. Louis was bigger and much nicer than their place. It’s all funny to me now.
I’m just relieved for the NC. I am so glad the drama is behind me and only great things for the future. I am in the middle of a huge makeover and I feel so girly and wonderful. I’m still reading all my books to keep me on the right track. It’s one step at a time and I’m working on my fabulous goals! Yay-me!
Oxy
obviously this group of people are in psychological pain and fighting for their respective psychological lives, so I have to respect that no matter how invasive or “cat fighty it is” you can also have a very subtle cat fight…that is very refined and jesus we can all feel the kick in the gut, IF we are capable of feeling anything that is.
And as for “drama” and feeding “drama” etc. I think you better speak to God about that one because I was watching a spider operate in her web this morning and it had every element of a modern horror flick…it was high drama, and if you take the time to look at nature, see how dramatic it is….it is EXPRESSION and when it’s coming OUT i know it’s not going to later be inflicted on a child or an animal…so let it out…I invite you..let’s keep the anger safe…we know how to keep it safe and that is to let it out safely….OWN it, take resposibility for it..that’s what all these folks did, and that is ok (By me)
Well, for my way of thinking LASHING OUT IN ANGER indescriminitely HERE ON LF is NOT a good thing. I do NOT “respect” “cat fighty” here because in the past when people come here to “cat fighty” there is ALWAYS an upset, someone’s feelings get hurt, someone gets triggered, or injured.
What I DO respect is treating each other with care, kindness and concern for the fact that people on this site are in different stages of healing and some people are VERY RAW. Taking that into consideration and knowing that, it is better to me to err on the side of caution in the way I express myself.
As for your second paragraph, I do not understand very much, if anything, about what you are saying there. I THINK you are saying that you think what these people (no deleted) did is OK, but I’m not sure. Well, IF that is what you are saying, I can only say that I disagree with you on that score. I think their manner of posting was rude, their name calling was rude, the agenda seemed vengeful, and the statements not all true. I had actually “welcomed” Spam, and he ended off with “well, I can tell that male opinions are not welcome here” which was a nasty and UNtrue statement.
So if you like that kind of thing, that’s your opinion, I don’t because over the nearly three years I’ve been here, I’ve seen too many people hurt by that very kind of flaming.l
E72:
It is a word Oxy used to describe ME in my early postings .
I prefer Causticalicious! 🙂
Maybe Rodney whatshisface will be moved to Utah to await his fate……..they just pulled off a firing squad execution last week.
(Outlawed now)….but a girl can dream can’t she?
Flaming nora! ha ha, no I do not really “like that sort of thing” you know this whole site is all about being hurt. people got hurt, people get hurt, people need to deal with the hurt, not be protected from hurt…..do not protect people from being hurt…thas the way through…being hurt, feelinghurt, expressing hurt, and something happens when you STAY WITH IT…a kind of process…that if you stay with it, trust that the process is a healing one (grief stages)….you get to feeling loved no matter how hurt you’ve been, no matter how ugly or angry you have been, this is not about LYING, it’s about telling the truth, ugly truth …even empaths have terrible anger and rage and it’s okay. It’s not evil, and it’s not that toxic if the end result is in expressing it and getting it off the chest, not keeping it in the chest, like I did= chest infections….it’s normal when you have been tortured by a P to feel a rollercoaster of emotions….but I’m so glad you are Oxy and you do it your way because, you are here longer than me, and you are entitled to be right if you need to be….look at all the wonderful things you do say and all the people who love you, you are a shining star, I’m just polishing you up to diamond standard.
Hey EB!
LOL! Great idea!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fW7MoINvQc&feature=related
Love the idea that LF is a private sanctuary but the real is it is a public domain and it can be searched for.
what you post here is in plain sight and anybody in the world can come see and come play.
my idea of private is something less visible but that does not diminish the goodness of what happens here or that we are fortunate that Donna (kudos) put it here for us to come to . That part is pretty cool I think.
I don’t know how to make it through the ordeal without coming here and I am grateful that it is here and that the people who share this place shared it with me.
Today I am thinking of cotton writing papers and fountain pens and big glass cloches and verdantly green moss and fine, fine linens and splintery old barn boards and peanut butter sandwiches.
So, I don’t know about shooting people but I do get that Rodney was a very bad guy and that would be a kindness in return fir what he did.
And I am not sure a website is a private retreat, but it is a saving place to be here.
And now, when I go poof, I will be in my private retreat. Postcards of well wishing to all from there!
Oxdrover~
Thank you for the kind words. They are genuinely appreciated! A good mantra is “Knowledge is Power”. There’s also “Power in Numbers”.
As stated earlier, I fully support Nora and encouraging her for a bright future, after the mess gets cleared away. I’ve been a recipient of “email” and choose NOT to respond, nor to correct the lies, nor to dignify the illness that is working. It would be very easy to get dragged into the “drama”, but I’m proud to say I’m much smarter & stronger than that now. My time is too important for the narrow path of those intending to continue swinging the “destruction” bat around. Sometimes when a destructive person is doing the swinging-there’s a motion called ricocheting. NOW that could hurt-them! (lol)
My life has had many woes in it. All, over time, have been dealt with. Those many woes have made me a much stronger person. The one defining moment in my life was staring Cancer in the face, fighting it head on, and watching it devour and take from me- the one person whom I loved the most. Talk about healing time. THAT cancer almost kicked MY butt! But, the experience cancer caused me to endure-made me a force to be reckoned with. I will bow to NO man, NO abuser, NO intimidators, NO disordered personalities. I WILL stand beside a friend, a person one has targeted as their victim, and I WILL help my friend PUSH forward & NOT let those negative & toxic forces win. EVER! It IS a conscious decision I have made in my life.
Together
Everyone
Achieves
More = TEAM √
Again, I commend the intelligent work and resources made possible, and available on this site.
Well, “private retreat” in one way can be on a very public forum in another. Private meaning that I don’t go out and say “hey, you guys, I spill my guts on this forum, wannna go read them them there?” to folks. LOL ROTFLMAO but at the same time, I do recommend to people I think would benefit from LF that they might find help (education and healing compassion) here. I’m not “hiding” anything in my story, and if someone said to me “Hey, are you that person who writes under “oxDrover” on LF?” I’d say yes. It’s just that when someone googles my RW name I don’t want my “story” to come up. Poor MaryJo Buttafucio, and others, whose names turn up all kinds of carp—doggone it, she had some big “co-joness” to write the book she did— and I don’t need or desire that kind of notiriety.
I’m not ashamed of what I am or who I am, and no longer cringe when I think of having my “history” exposed for the world to see, but there’s no point in doing so at this point in time. There was a time though when to have had my name on the front page of the local paper “Ox Drover is the mother of psychopathic killer!@” Or to look out and see National Enquirer reporters on my lawn, would have devestated me.
I grew up DREADING “what the neighbors would think” and feeling this mandate to keep them from finding out anything that wasn’t A+ about our famly—now I no longer dread what the neighbors think, I actually could give a RIP what most of them think, but at the same time, I have NO compulsion to TELL them every opinion I have or to share my most intimate concerns with them either. If that makes any sense.
In his malicious and very untruthful biography my sperm donor devoted seven chapters to what a piece of lyiing carp scum I was. After his death a few years ago this was made available FREE OF CHARGE (all 1200 pages of it) on the internet. And I knew that was his ultimate revenge against me to smear me as much as possible!
AFter the original publication of the print version of his book (I have a copy) I sat down and took my tractor trailer load of documents about him and his life and business deallings (not a pretty picture) and the lies he told in print and wrote out the true biography of his life. I was going to publish this and show him! (head nodding here) but funny thing, after I finished with it, I thought…who the frack cares? I don’t care any more. NO ONE who knows him, with the exception of one of my half brothers cares if he lives or dies, or ever liked him, respects him, etc. so why on earthh should I really CARE what he said about me in print? First, no one who knows me would believe one word of it. Second, No one who knows HIM would believe anything he said. Thirdly if someone who knows neither of us believes it, do I care? NO! So pith on it.
However, all that said, I am not going to go out and put up a sign in my drive way that says “Hey, go to http://www.Oxy‘s_sperm_donor.com and read all the lies her sperm donor ever wrote about her, she lives back there behind the trees.”
My sperm donor’s only claims to fame was he finally made a bunch of money with a product that went world wide, and was a pathologically lying and very publicity hungry psychopath that never had a true friend. He did manage for a very few years to be notorious.
I P-son though just loves to BRAG about “my grandpa the rich and famous P-sperm-donor” (that he never met) some how he seems to think that makes HIM special—well, now that I think about it I guess it does, he inherited the Psychopathic GENES from the SOB! LOL
My “private retreat” I guess is here on the farm, back in the woods, and on either very cold or very hot days, back here in my office in my house in the small clearing. Back where I can look out the window and see my wild flower garden dappled with shade and bright splashes of sunshine that lazily dance with the quiet moving of the leaves. I feel the breeze of the ceiling fan on my back and moving my hair and pretend it is not 106 degrees of heat index outside! LOL
And, then, I see old Rodney tied to a stake in the middle of my drive way—and no one has to shoot him, he just stands there in the sun and heat and when he screams, I look down and see huge the fire ant hill upon which his honey covered feet are planted and I think, you know, the Native Americans had it all over firing squads! ROTFLMAO (see EB I didn’t comp-letely lose my touch!)