Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader who we’ll call “Nora.” The names in this letter have been changed.
One Saturday, in October 2009, I married someone I thought was the man of my dreams. When this man came into my life last year, I had suffered several losses and was very vulnerable. I thought I had finally met an honorable, loving, understanding, romantic, Christian man. We laughed together, planned our future together, and seemed like the perfect couple. I should have remembered when something seems too good to be true, it probably is. Although I didn’t expect everything would always be rosy, soon after we were married, I discovered that everything I thought I knew about this man was based on lies. He is the complete opposite of who I thought he was and has no concept of the truth or of being in a committed, loving relationship.
From my research since leaving him, I believe this man is a sociopath, and nothing, or no one, is going to change him. He initially presents himself to be a charismatic, romantic, faithful man, but soon the real man begins to emerge – a cheating, abusive, pathological liar. When I started questioning inconsistencies in his stories, he turned everything around to try and make me feel guilty for doubting him, and that worked in the beginning. Even though I was confused as to why I was no longer feeling love from this man, I tried to convince myself that everything would work itself out. When I started to realize this man had duped me, I also started to realize he was incapable of truth or love. The fact that we recited our wedding vows in the presence of God and family meant nothing to him. Everyone, including myself, asks the same question. Why did he marry me so quickly and what did he hope to gain? I don’t think there’s an answer to this question that makes sense.
Met on a dating site
I joined a dating website in July 2009 for the same reasons that most women like me do. I was having another birthday that month and decided I wanted to meet someone to enjoy life with, as I had been living as a single woman for over five years and hadn’t dated until the last year. Since I hadn’t met anyone the usual ways, I thought this would be a good way to pick someone who matched what I was looking for in a man. It didn’t take long to get winks from lots of men, but one man’s profile stood out from the others. We are both over 50 years old, but he is several years younger than me, and I often joked that my first husband was the same age as me and my second husband older, so I was looking for a younger man the next time.
We met for our first date a few weeks later at a public garden near my home. When I got out of my car, he met me with a dozen red roses, the first of many to come. At first, he was very quiet but told me later it was because I took his breath away and he hadn’t expected me to have that affect on him. We went to dinner that night at a nearby restaurant. The evening was perfect and he was everything I had hoped for. We agreed on just about everything and the next two months seemed as if we had been together forever — that we were who the other had been hoping to find.
My mom’s advice was not to rush into anything but he convinced me we should get married, and no one tried to talk me out of getting married so soon because they tell me now I seemed happier than I had been in a long time. I never once felt alarm or noticed anything that appeared to be red flags. If I had taken my mom’s advice and waited, the truth would have eventually come out before making the biggest mistake of my life.
Quick wedding
Soon after we started dating, “Gabe” booked tickets for a day trip excursion out-of-state. When we started talking marriage, it was decided we would get married in an outdoor wedding gazebo with the fall leaves as a backdrop on the same day as the planned trip. We left on Friday, the day before the excursion and wedding ceremony, to obtain our marriage license that he applied for online. He was anxious the entire trip, worrying that we wouldn’t get to the license office before they closed. Our children were meeting us the next day for the wedding ceremony and he said he didn’t want anything to upset our plans. Once we got the license, he relaxed, and the planned excursion the next day and the wedding ceremony that night are still wonderful memories and always will be as are the days leading up to that date.
The next day, we returned home and it was decided we would start moving my furniture and belongings to live in his house. My new husband, appearing to show concern, kept asking me if I was sure that’s what I wanted to do because his house is miles away from everything I am used to. I know now that his “concern” was how he was going to keep me from discovering the truth about his numerous lies. I told him I loved living away from the big city and didn’t mind the longer drive to visit with my children or get to my job. I had been renting my condo for over five years, so he said we would keep it until the first of the year, and then purchase it and rent it out.
Discovering the lies
Turns out, Gabe had not been divorced for three years as he told me. His divorce was final one month before our first date, making him ineligible to remarry sooner than 60 days. No wonder he was a wreck about getting the marriage license. He had lied on the marriage license application stating his last divorce was May 2006.
Gabe started to “disappear” and have lame excuses when he returned. He had said he would help pay my rent and car payments to help me with the expenses of two households, but he never gave me a penny. I discovered he was talking to other women online, but didn’t say anything at first. One night I asked who one of them was. He said a friend of his for over 20 years. Turns out, she was someone he had hooked up with in late 2007. He told this woman he was divorced and had an affair with her for several months before she became suspicious and called it off.
The real man
The last week I was there, the real Gabe emerged. I discovered he had changed all of the passwords on the computer and blocked me from using it, but this time, I wasn’t backing down. I knew he was hiding things from me and let him know that’s why I had checked the computer history. I found out he hadn’t paid any of the bills he claimed to have paid for the past two months.Gabe then told me our marriage was a mistake, we wanted different things in life, he realized he never loved me and to pack my things and get out of “his” house.
At first, I refused, thinking we could work it out, but after talking to my mom, something she said clicked in my head, and I suddenly realized what I had to do and started packing.
The day before moving, Gabe and his son moved my furniture to the downstairs garage. I rented a 16-foot truck, and my daughter, son and I loaded my belongings in it and moved out on what should have been our two-month anniversary, back to the condo I was lucky to still have.
More lies
Since leaving him, I have found out the truth about so many of his lies. He isn’t a military hero as he claims. He doesn’t have a Purple Heart Award or a Bronze Medal. He uses a fabricated DD214 and Bachelor of Science diploma as credentials. He never went to college to earn a computer science degree. The university he claims to have received his degree from never heard of him.
The ring – he made a big deal about giving me “his mother’s ring.” He told me he had never felt about anyone the way he did about me, and I was so special, he wanted me to wear it. Turns out, it isn’t even his mother’s ring. He tries to guilt me into returning the ring, saying it’s a family heirloom, and he will pay for a divorce if I return it. Like I’m going to believe another lie of his? There are too many lies to list, but they also include some really insignificant ones that do nothing other than to inflate his image.
Online profiles
I started profiles as his wife in hopes of warning other women about him and not to date him. I made it so anyone searching his name would find my profiles about him instead. He’s been seen dating and I’ve had him bumped from two dating websites after informing them he’s not single as he claims, but still married.
Who found my profiles were other women from his past who he lied to. They have let me know how thankful they are that I exposed him and that it has helped them to understand what they couldn’t before now. We have become informed by sharing and comparing our stories. We’re able to laugh at how he uses the same stories and calls us all “Pretty Lady” and “Bella Principesa.” Our “support group” has drawn us together and we now focus on hopefully sharing our knowledge with others.
Won’t divorce
I can’t get him to divorce me, but that’s one of his MO’s. He tells everyone his wives are the ones who cheated on him and divorced him after leaving him with their debts. He’s the only one who did the cheating. He’s the one who is financially irresponsible and has filed for bankruptcy — a fact he dropped on me after we were married. He had shown me a meticulously kept check register that turned out to be a fake. He refuses to pay for a divorce, so for now, other women are safe from him.
After leaving him and realizing he had not been truthful about his sexual encounters, I went to my doctor to be tested. Thankfully, only one STD test came back positive and it was treated with antibiotics. When I informed him he might need to get tested since he was having sex with other women, his only response was I got infected from improper feminine hygiene. He says ignorant things like that to try and upset me, but I know the truth, and I can hold my head high knowing I did nothing wrong other than to love him and trust him without really knowing anything about him.
I hope others will see there’s no shame in this happening, but I also hope they will read my story and others like it and think as many times as it takes to really get to know a person before making a bad decision while thinking something like this, or worse, can’t happen to them.
Wow….had spath invade my dreams tonight!
It woke me right up.
Today I was talking with my bestie…..and I said to her….He’s gonna be back. I really feel this.
She said….well EB….I don’t know why he’d be back, but I learned never to question your predictions of his behaviors….you’ve been right the whole way.
So…..in my dream tonight…..(probably didn’t help going to sleep with joran on my pillow)…..But spath was trying to get into my house. Two of the jr’s had friends over and watching TV. I saw him outside with a little old lady giving her directions, as she was lost…..next I looked up an she was jumping on him, stradeling him, trying to take him down….and he was off balance. (Shit, does that represent ME)????
Jr’s and I were watching through the fence laughing…..
Next thing, he came into the room were were in. (a room I have for the kids in the garage with TV, games, recliners…..)
and I told him to leave…..HE FLATELY REFUSED! FlATELY!
I told him I was calling cops and that didn’t phase him…..
Then he said…..I love you and want you back….no matter how I get you back.
I MADE him leave….escorted him out of the room and locked the door.
He went inside the house and as I was locking various doors, he’d appear at another door.
Jr finally said to me……Mom….just let him stay.
WTF…..let him stay???
He said yeah….it’s easier……no big deal…..
Jr said it loud enough that spath heard and looked at me with a grin……
I walked out of the room…..
Spath ‘grabbed hold’ of the jr’s emotions in my dream….
At that point….the same jr came into my bedroom and layed down on my bed with Holly and me.
He does this when he wants to ‘talk’.
I was in a dead sleep…..but had just been woken up by this dream…..
As he was telling me about his night…..I was reeling from this dream….trying to grasp back ahold of reality.
Now it’s 1:45 and EB’s wide awake…..I had a nice early night….
SPATH INVASIONS>……
EB,
WOW! Maybe a stun-gun or cattle prod for home invaders would be good to wart off a dream like this. Isn’t it the truth that they are the manipulate our children when they can not longer get to us?? I am already seeing it through gifts at each visit, regular trips for ice cream, comments about how mommy doesn’t let daddy into the house and god knows what other snipes she doesn’t understand or retell at 2.
She did say to him, “Mommy tells the truth.” He was MAD! I really don’t disparage him, this was her observation. Clearly, our kids are the only chink in our armour.
EB – hope you got back to sleep.
your dream has an interesting quality to it, not sure what to call that quality but in vajrayana buddhism it’s said that everything is a ‘blessing or a purification’. and your dream sounds like a purification to me…a leaching out of the emotional tar of this man. your dream doesn’t read as predictive to me, but indicative of you moving forward. not suggesting he won’t show his ugly mug again, just that you have truly ‘won’ – you are opening to life.
in life you are letting your guard down more. makes perfect sense that this stuff will rise….when the toxic load coming in diminishes, what we are carrying will rise.
..and don’t be worried about the little old lady being you, ’cause she was SCRA-PAY!
I have a question. My g/f has been seeing a guy for over a year now. She called me late last night very upset. She said that her b/f and her, (and its been a rocky relationship…I don’t think she trusts him) and last night, he cancelled a date to go out that they had planned. He always calls her on his way home, but he didn’t return her text or call her. So I told her to call him. He answered and said that he stopped at some party because a friend called him before he was leaving work and asked him to. He called her twenty minutes later on his way home. She thinks that he cancelled because he found out about the party earlier. So she confronted him and asked why he didn’t return her call earlier or text. He got very defensive and said that he doesn’t have to “report” to her what he does spur of the moment.
In their relationship, they usually contact each other often and he always calls her on his way home from work. She sensed something funny.
I told her to follow her gut feeling. He got mad at her for “assuming” things and twisted it and said…”You have a problem for causing all of this drama over me not returning your text. I didn’t see it.” She knew this was a lie. He always checks his texts.
So, she ended the relationship because of what he said about not having to “report” what he does.
I told her to check out this site …because he may well be a sociopath..or a pathological liar. I’m not sure if I was right to label him this…and I don’t want to cofuse her.
Anyway, are all liars sociopaths?
My other g/f just called me to tell me that her husband went to counselling with her (the married one whose husband wanted to move his mother in with them without even discussing it with her)
She said he sat there as she got all emotional about it, and acted like she was crazy…denying his “toxic loyalty” to his family! He was totally cold!
What is going on in this world? UGH
One:
Yeah…..the leaching of old shiat…..dream colonics of sorts!
I didn’t get back to sleep until 3:30…..My sleep has been off the past few weeks…..so it’s been nappy time for EB in the days.
I’ve been waking up not rested….even after 8 hours.
Oh well…..
I started back on my Pilates reformer yesterday….to release.
The old lady was actually funny…..and totally odd placement in the dream….. she was definately SCRA-PAY!!!!
🙂
One….make it a GOOD weekend~
Bella,
Who are you? The man Nora writes of or his new woman? I would like to know.
If you are the new woman then I say “welcome” because here you will find everything you will need to heal in your future. If you are him, forget it. You will get no supply here. You can abuse Nora but we are all here watching and supporting her and taking notes. A cloud of witnesses…
To everyone posting on this blog with Nora, I DID NOT post the comment on Sept 26. I do not know how it came to be here but I did not post it.
Adamsrib, I am NOT his new woman and I am not him. I have better things to do with my life at this point than to waste it commenting on here as the last time I did I was the receiver of the bashing, maybe righfully so because if what I said about NOra but I DID apologize and still recieved hateful things said by this blog. For you all to be caring people, you can sure make a person feel bad. MOreover, I do not know who posted this, don’t care other than to say to NOra, I’m sorry, I did not do this. I have been dealing with alot in my own personal life and have not had time to pay attention to this site (just happened to check it tonight). This sounds like it came from HIM,,,,Anyway, take what I have said for what you will, I have done my part to make you aware and to apologize, we will see if I get the hateful comments like I did before. God bless.
Bella:
Rather than posting to ‘us’ on LF, If you didn’t post the previous comment, then contact Donna for removal. I’d also suggest you change your password to prevent further disruptions for you.
Simple steps, no drama, and no engagement…….and no bashing.
What you seem to be involved in (on whatever level)….is a triangle. Your involvelment will continue…….UNTIL YOU STEP OUT!
And btw….it might be helpful to you to not throw everyone into the same ‘box’. Most people on LF are caring individuals…..but as we are finding……some are trolls.
No one can ‘make’ us feel anything….the first step to healing is taking responsibility.
Others reactions are not important.
Dear Bella,
I am glad to see the post that was posted under your name has been removed.
I agree with what ErinBrock said, as long as we engage in the “he said/she said/they said Games” we remain entangled with the drama rama.
Until I stepped out of the triangle of people who were either playing “Rescuer, persecutor, or victim” and constantly changing chairs depending on the situation, I wasn’t able to focus on healing myself.
You are not responsible for Nora or for him, and you ARE responsible for your own healing and life. If he lies all the time, or she lies all the time, what difference does it make to you? or your healing? None of those people or their reactions are important to you unless you allow it.
That’s the basic message we have here for each other and for ourselves. We are not responsible for them, and we can’t fix them, but we are responsible for ourselves and for making ourselves the best that we can be. God bless you in your journey!