Editor’s note: The following letter was sent by a Lovefraud reader who posts as “Remembertoforget.”
We met on Facebook, because we had mutual friends/acquaintances. I would see him comment on girls’ posts. Funny because I deleted him thinking, I don’t really know him. Why have him on here. He sooner or later re-friended me. ”¨I almost dodged a bullet. Perhaps my subconscience was one step ahead.
I was depressed when I met him. Two friends had just passed away and I left my long-term boyfriend and was staying at my mom’s. He would post stuff that attracted me, and one day I randomly messaged him. I never do that.
SAD STORY:
He had been upset because his children’s mother had left him. She took the kids when he was at work one day and he came home to a letter and an empty apartment. He said she took 20k with her and moved back home because she had missed her family. Red flag.
My sister left her ex-husband and moved away to be with someone, so I immediately rationalized it as possible. He said his ex was all lies, lies, lies. He said she had a problem stealing from him. Money, etc…
He also talked about how his mom and step-dad died of cancer, and how everyone always dies and leaves him. He had an ex before his kids’ mother that he said he would have married, but she died in a car crash. Yet, claims he didn’t believe in marriage.
I empathized with him on his stories of loss because, I too am a cancer survivor, and had just lost a dear friend to it.
LOVE BOMBING:
We talked all day everyday, fb, texts, email, and other.
Once things got going he professed his love for me. Overly charming, cheesy compliments, love of my life, nobody has ever done these things for me, I would follow you to the end of the earth…
CRAZY MAKING:
He told me that they rented a house and after she left he moved into his small one bedroom apt. There were stickers on the walls and kids toys throughout. I thought nothing.
One day he pulled out a toy and slipped saying, why would she leave this here? It’s my daughter’s favorite toy. Then I questioned. He lied.
He came over every night. We were hypersexual. He had a porn habit. I suggested cutting back a bit. He said I asked him to quit. He frequently talked about his exes or subtly made comparisons.
He was driving a BMW that he bragged about when we met. It turned out to be his first ex’s from 11 years prior that he was with for 7 years. He was taking over payments for her as she couldn’t afford it. I know who she is. She lives up north and near, traveling back and forth. He confessed and returned the car saying he didn’t want any ties, yet said earlier how they are bffs.
Suddenly, if I would ask about her he would say don’t mention that bitch’s name, and that he blocked her or deleted her. ”¨I deactivated my fb so then he deactivated his, acting like I asked him to.
His child’s mother was NC with him. I thought he didn’t know where they were. He pretended to hire a detective.”¨ She eventually turned up after some papers were sent to his job.
ABUSE:
We started fighting so often, it got more and more frequent. Sex and fighting.
I constantly was questioning EVERYTHING. NOTHING made sense. Everything was a contradiction. Holes in every story. He pushed every button. Things happened so fast I was literally going crazy. I started therapy to try and sort through it all. I even blamed my self.
One night after having sex I made a comment, can’t remember what, and he flipped out on me. He cornered me in the kitchen with his fist saying he was going to bash my head in and knock my teeth in. I feared for my life.”¨ I broke up with him the next day.
I was always trying to break up with him as each argument he would yell are you breaking up with me?, until I would say yes, then he would come beg and cry and bully me about it. He cried and begged. I took him back.
We still fought, he called me degrading names when fighting. I walked around sick everyday. I had a stomachache since I met him. He was such a force, I told him at first.
I would make jokes or ask questions about him having a secret life or being a con man. I had no idea when I had said those things, but my subconscience did. He has six email addresses. I questioned that. He did get physical with me on two occasions.
THE END:
Finally after me calling out his habitual lying, he admitted the big lie that had 100 lies surrounding it. He moved all 4 of them into the shitty one bedroom apartment and she ended up leaving. He had lied to me the whole time about them living there even with proof right in his face.
I dumped him once and for all and the shit hit the fan. Bullying, harrassing, begging, threatening, lying, fighting. Saying his ex wants him to move up there, that she can’t handle the kids.
Next day saying he’s not gonna talk to them anymore and just send the money, that it’s confusing for them to talk to him.
Then another day, writing, the kids are coming home. He pretended he had a seizure and went to the ER. He then fought with me for not coming to be with him. He played that story for a week, talking about it, until I asked for proof. He finally admitted that he didn’t go.
Sick bastard fought with me about it. That is when I changed my email address and eventually my phone number. He begged me not to.
One of my last texts to him hadn’t gone through yet, and the number change went through! I had no idea. He saw the new number. Suddenly I got the worst messages ever coming in.
DEVALUE & DISCARD:
He called me every name in the book. Saying he has plenty to replace my ass with. ӬSaying he has someone who really loves him just waiting for ME to mess up.
I ran back to the store and changed it again. ”¨ He called my job three different times from different numbers within two weeks. The last time my boss told him he can’t call there and he stopped.
AFTERMATH:
So much more had happened, but I know you’ve heard it all. ”¨I had little support. It was like, get over it. Nobody seemed empathetic, like they had been there done that.
My disordered friend from many years back ended up betraying me shortly after, unrelated to this. I was so sick and in shock. It hadn’t set in yet. The reality of what “it” is. I was stuck on reading about NPD because psychopath just sounded way worse.”¨ I then had to cut off my friend right after she started a smear campaign on me via fb. Nobody likes her anyways though,
I then deleted all my social media accounts, and changed my number AGAIN. I gave it to maybe three people. Ӭ I slipped into major depression and stopped eating. I went to the hospital and got on some medicine. It saved my life.
BREAKING NC:
The day before I went to the hospital I decided to peek into my old email address because my tablet never let me delete the account. After a month and a half of NC, I saw that he still sent me emails until mid Feb. I didn’t read any except the last one, and I replied, a short thank you for your wishes I could use them.
He wrote back. I was so weak and sick. He acted so helpful and loving about me going to the hospital. I made one quick comment about the past and he swiftly turned it ALL around, and saying we don’t ever have to talk about us again and to get better.
There was also a sad story about his birth father dying. He died in 2013 it said. Always a sad story.
That’s when I saw it for what it is. A psychopath. I did the gray rock method, not even knowing what it was. I had no fight left. I will never win. He is not my friend, he is the enemy.
The next day he sent one love bombing me to give us a chance, Etc etc ”¦ after ignoring him, he sent a few more. Then after the weekend sent more, saying how he doesn’t judge ME and nobody will love everything about me like he does! Again, turning it all around. HA!
EDUCATION:
He just doesn’t know I got educated.
Thank God I found Love Fraud. ”¨I haven’t answered any messages from him.”¨ I’m sure he stayed close with the first ex the whole time. She must be sick if she knows how he is and still hooks up with him.
He said he never married his children’s mother, but in a way I wish he did, so someday he would have to pay alimony AND child support. My heart hurt for her. She was 10 years with him, much younger than him, far and estranged from family, didn’t work, and was isolated. Thank God she escaped.
There were many more crazy details of course.Ӭ Two mutual friends said he was so sweet. I believed. ӬI wanted to die by the end of this.Ӭ Other than having cancer myself, this was the most disturbing event of my life.
Sincerely,
Remembertoforget
Remembertoforget, they know how to suck everyone end to their sick & twisted game, once you are in it’s mind blowing how they keep sucking people in whether in person or behind a computer they are true masters of their con game. I am truly sorry to hear that you had cancer & that you endured the hell of a sociopath. So much pain for you. So sad.
I am glad that you were able to impose the no contact rule even when you were not aware of the rule. It is the only way to survive their hell.
I’m also glad you found your way to the truth with LF, this site is a true blessing for all of us. Wishing you all the best in your recovery. Take care
Jan7
Thank you. Yes, he played the victim card and sad sob stories the whole time! I didn’t think of this to be a behavior of men- dramatic. Lol. Silly me. The cycle was bombing, crazy making, me trying to break up, then pressure, then love bombing.
I got on antidepressants, and yes, I feel much much better. March was 10 years cancer free!
Thank you for your words of support!!!
Hi Remembertoforget, your welcome. What sociopaths dont count on is the victims joining forces to heal together and to lift each other up.
My ex h was the same so much “pity play” & never ending sob stories (all lies of course)……uhhh I saw right threw his bs too but he kept at it and I caved in each time because he would just keep pushing his crazy agenda to get his way (not just with me but everyone)….he is masterful with pity play….now he is on to many “next” victims sad for them.
CONGRATS on 10 years cancer free!!! Great news! Thank you for sharing.
I find the pity play very hard to resist – even if I am resisting it, I feel so GUILTY somewhere inside (poor guy, he can’t help it, he’s a sociopath, it’s not his fault, etc.) Hard to harden up against that one.
Ah, but now I see his stories are mostly made up lies, maybe sprinkled with truth. So crazy…we must not feel the guilt. Lol
Hello Remembertoforget
(Im not from an English speaking country, so sorry for my grammatic errors)
Im so sad to read your story, i myself have sent my story to Donna, and i know how the pity-play effects us. Im so glad that he is out of your life now!
/Catie
Thank you Catie…
I guess that’s how they get us. The sensitive, sweetness, and fake charm. Uggggh.
Hope you are doing ok now yourself. I’m glad we have LF.
I’ve coined a name for ‘it”.
Waste of sanity!
You are right Remembertoforget! I hope i one day, can be where you are, free of all this.. But im not at the moment… :-/ I thought i was.. But then… aaargh… im going crazy… Seriously! I cant stop thinking that he is right, that IM the one who is crazy, not him.. I read all these stories in here, and alot of it sounds like my ex.. But now.. I kind of feel like im the narcissist.. That im the one who cant let him go? We had a big fight (Again, very violently) and i felt so strong after that. Said to myself i wouldnt have this life anymore, not for me – not for my kind.
And i was SOOO strong for a week! And actually was smiling Again etc…
But then, i (im SOOOO stupid!) looked at his Facebook profile, and could see he was flirting with this new girl, and that he was oh so happy!
And it hurt me like hell.. And Again, i have tried to call him, sent mails etc.. But he is ignoring me like always.. And when i look at the last 8 years.. it have always been like this.. Him giving me the silent treatment after he made something that hurt me. And then im the one chasing him to talk, with calls and mails..
I just dont understand how he can be this robot.. And then i get angry at my self, because im a “junkie” after his attention.. the man who have hurt me, dumped me millions of time, been unfaithful, lied etc… How stupid am i?!
Have you ever felt like, you were going crazy? :-/
Catie…
Yes,I did go crazy! I am not all better yet, but I am getting better. Like they all say here, you have to cut off contact. Mine never disappeared on me or maybe when he tried to leave me alone during the break up I would not call him. 8 years is a long time. I did think at times it was me and I could have been the N.
The things I struggle with now are realizing lies still, and boy I would love to call him out on them, but I KNOW that I can’t. I will never win. ALSO, when you contact him, it is feeding his ego. It is TRUE. My life revolved around him and his stories. I was going nuts. THEN I realized, they like that! Cut him off.
I deactivated my fb. We have several mutual aquaintences. It’s a trigger.
No contact is the best option.
Hope this helps…
C:
Sadly, it is like a drug, an addiction, and it’s about ego. When you contact him you feed his ego.
It’s giving your power away. It is sad how we just handed our power over to these vampires. I was a zombie after. Mine was only short of a year.
I struggle with my own ego need to be right, to prove, how dare you think you could pull one over on me! But….I work through it. I read and read about it. It’s always been hard for me to let go. Always. I’ve now found myself letting go, bit by bit.
Breathe…