Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by a reader who we’ll call Mandy. Mandy is 15 years old and dated a sociopathic guy, who was two years older, for over a year. Notice how similar the sociopath’s behaviors are to what many of us adults experienced—an indication that this manipulative behavior is instinctual in sociopaths.
A person cannot be diagnosed a sociopath until the age of 18, but can start showing symptoms at a young age. He was 15 and I was only 13. We lived in two separate towns. We met on the computer off of an Internet website called Facebook and then started talking all the time on phone.
I was a perfect victim. I had no self-esteem when I was younger because of verbal abuse I had faced from classmates. I felt alone and just wanted to have a boyfriend by my side. We were constantly flirting on the phone, but I didn’t want this to be a cyber relationship. He seemed charming and sweet. Every time time I would ask him to hang out he would tell me that there was no one to drive him. His sister couldn’t and his mother would leave him home all day by himself and how alone he felt. So I had asked him, “What about your dad?” He said, “I never met my dad before.” It’s like he would make me feel guilty for asking him.
He started to say “I love you”
Weeks were going by, but the more time that passed, the more we were acting like a couple. He even started to say, “I love you.” I couldn’t handle this relationship because we never have even met! So when I finally decided to tell him we should end this, he told me he would kill himself and that he had written a suicide note. I couldn’t let go after he told me this. Promising me that he would he see me soon.
A few weeks later he started mentioning ex-girlfriend who he said he dated for three years. When I asked to speak to her, he gave me her screen name. I just wanted to speak to her to see if everything he told me added up. I ended up finding the ex-girlfriend on Facebook, which is when I found out from her that he was lying. He lied about never meeting his dad, and they didn’t date for three years, only two months, and that he made up a fake screen name. Also telling me he wanted her back. When the three of us were on the phone confronting him he said that he picked me over her and that he would never lie to me again.
$85 taxi ride
About a month later, with still not seeing each other, he told me to call his mother so we can see each other. When I had asked her she told me, “I don’t mean to be a bitch of a mother, but right now is not a good time. He needs to get his priorities straight.” From her finding out that we were talking, she quickly put a end to it by telling him to stop. But a couple of months later we started talking again. Sitting home sick on March 10th, he wanted me to come to his school to see him. I took a taxi, which cost me $85 for the whole trip with only my money. He was very nice, sweet, and funny and even introduced me to his friends. We finally met after four months, but I had to make the effort.
I started to notice that he was never going out with friends, and every time I would go out he would be mad because I wasn’t giving him attention. When I had asked him why he doesn’t really go out, he would tell me that because he used to be a bad kid his mom doesn’t allow him out very often because she cant trust him yet. Telling me that he changed and is trying to gain all of her trust back.
Yelling at me
So on a Friday night when I was going out, he had called me screaming to never call his number again. Telling me that I sent pictures to his friends. He kept yelling at me and screaming, how could I do such a thing? I kept telling him that I love him and that I didn’t do anything. As he heard me cry for hours to him; he wouldn’t stop yelling at me and told me to forget about him. I called back and said, “You know what? I know I didn’t do anything; just forget about it.” He said, “I love you I want to be with you,” like nothing even happened. I knew the story was all made up though. I didn’t want to let him go because I felt like he was the first real guy who actually liked me.
The next few weeks were fine, but now it was over five months, it started to come down to if this could actually work. The only way I can do this was if I received his mother’s approval of me. We started to argue about the whole thing because he wasn’t sure if he was going to go through with it. He said, “You would get a boyfriend and then leave me. You wouldn’t be able to say I love you anymore. Once you have a boyfriend, you would eventually stop calling me.”
Sexual acts
Basically from here to September, the new school year, all we were doing was deciding to be friends, to being friends with benefits to trying to be together. Just a repeating pattern from month to month. Until one night when I returned from babysitting he had asked me, how were the kids? Asking me if I ever thought about doing anything sexual with them. He tried to get me to share stories of sexual things I have done with the children. I thought he was joking, and tried to brush it off. Then he started to ask me to have sexual contact with family members and then my dog. I would ask him, “Why do you try to talk about these things?” His answer was, “I do this because I know you like it.” I found this disgusting and weird. This continued for months and he wouldn’t stop.
In January he came to my house; he actually made half of the effort this time with paying and getting in a taxi for me. We had to sneak to do this though. He wanted me to have sex with him, but I had told him no. He forced himself on top of me holding me down trying to get me to have it, but I kept screaming to stop and he finally let go. And you would think I wouldn’t want to be with him, but I was in denial because I didn’t want to be alone and believed that he loved me.
He had a new girlfriend
A month later I wrote a letter to his mother that I am a good person and telling her that I want to be with her son. She turned me down and basically two weeks later he had a new girlfriend and told me he just wants to be friends with me. We will never be together and all we were doing was fighting. Along the way, though, he made up lies after lies and manipulated me into believing that we could be together. He promised me for over a year that once he will be able to drive he could see me, but that never happened. He made promises to me that never happened.
It took me three long months to get myself out of depression about the question, did this really happen? I found myself crying every day and needed to go to a social worker in school. My dad knew some of the story, because along the way I told him bits and pieces. My dad warned me though. I got hurt.
Traits of a sociopath
He has all the traits of a sociopath, which my social worker thought too.
Glibness and Superficial Charm, Manipulative and Conning, Pathological Lying, Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt, Shallow Emotions. When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion, it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy. Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. Promiscuous Sexual Behavior, Infidelity, Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts
He showed all of that along the way. This went on for over a year. Now he has stopped talking me for good, but I still feel like he will come back. His new victim, or would you say girlfriend, is a new girl who was new to his town who just had moved on. Perfect target.
Broken heart
I had to sum the story up, but it was really more to that. There were a lot of tears and me crying over him for a year and a lot of fighting. I took a lot of verbal abuse from him. My life revolved around him, with me blowing off homework and studying to talk to him. Me trying to make the effort to be with him. I loved him and I put my everything into him because I convinced myself that he loved me.
It’s been seven months since he stopped talking to me, but I still think about him everyday. I am traumatized by him, and still have a broken heart. I did spend a lot of my money on him, but did it cause I believed the lies he told me, but he just used me to get to what he wanted. He wanted me to go along with his sick fantasies. He never cared about me, and never will.
hey this is a mesg. for ErinBrokovich. . . It’s not your responsibility to put those kids in their place, but it is ur responsiblity to protect your son, this is obviously really bothering him if he came out with the problem with recourse, most of the time ive notice boys at my school putting up with bullying bc they dont want to be looked at as a ‘wimp’ and when concern is showed toward them they reject it and act like its nothing. No matter what is going on, it’s important for your son to be focused on his school work, and accel in whatever makes him happy and supports his future. If these kids are effecting that he needs to be put into a dif enviroment perhaps a dif school, he may protest this at first but this is important bc he will make new friends, and keep distant from the bullys. Explain to him that those kids bullying him, have a crappy future to look forward to, and their trying to bring him down with them. Let him know he can prove them wrong, that he’s better than to let some punks get to him. i also suggest he bring some form of defense weapon with him he feels threatened also going to the police isnt a bad idea. Let him know that he’s always going to have people trying to bring him down no matter where he is in life, but he needs to be strong and realize that these punks don’t determine the choices he makes, or the way he feels he is in control of that and should walk with his head up, and have faith in himself. also if he surrounds himself with the ‘good crowd’ the bullies wont have anything to gain, bc he has wont need there opinion or consent for anything he has his own friends, the bullying might continue for a lil while but once they realize he has moved on with his own life and he’s with a different crowd, they’ll eventually move on to the nxt one in line. . . .
Wow, that is really great advice.
response for skylar . . . . .
i am fifteen years
a demon in disguise is hard to seperate from an angel bc they both come with beauty but the real angel is the one that ‘lifts u up to heaven’ not one that ‘puts you down’. . . to hell.
All we can do is feel bad for them, its ironic bc the whole time that their trying to get it to be all about them they do exactly the opposite bc their hurting everyone else.
Stargazer,
I think briannaco is older than we are! 😮
she’s wiser than I am anyway.
But now that I think about it, she is offering the same advice everyone gave Jill earlier. We told Jill not to protect her baby from the reality of her depression. That is also the advice given in “the art of selfishness”: don’t protect your kids from reality, don’t defend them, teach them to defend themselves. help them figure out solutions because they are going to experience this again and again. It’s a fact of life, and they might as well solve it now.
How is it that a teenager has so much more wisdom than I do despite all the reading I do?
🙁
and another thing.. . .for Erinbrokovich
try not to get involved with these kids it could cause more problems and more kids bullying your son . . .also alot of drama its better to just get him out of the enviroment
the holy spirit, jesus christ is responsible for all wisdom, and thats who i go to for advice, plus we all know what to do we just secound guess are selves thats why you’ve been reading so much skylar because your afraid that the advice you have for yourself or anyone else is wrong but with 25 years of experience your an expert in this area!
briannaco,
I do pray for wisdom, but it is ego that gets in my way. I want to fix things – now. In the end, God always intervenes with gifts that I never could have imagined. It’s always a wonderful feeling. Still, ego keeps raising it’s head.
The 25 years experience taught me what P’s are like, but not why. Books and LF have revealed that.
EB,
if you need to provide evidence to the cops that he is being bullied, would video work?
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26932~r.53733725
He would have to carry a pack of cigarettes and casually light one when they show up.
I understand.
Thanks all!
Dang, Briannaco…..are you sure your 15? Can you move to my town and council?
🙂
Moving schools isn’t an option…..this is what the S had hoped for….to drive us out of town by having the kids harassed. Nearest HS is 50 miles…3 2 hours over the mountain.
I have told the kids for years, rise above….never provoke…and if you have to defend yourselves…go for it…..but avoid altercation if you can.
Kids are looked at as wimps, because they are not provoked.
This son carries a knife….against my wishes…..but I take it away and he buys another…..the school police told him fine, that “HE WAS AFRAID OF DOGS”….right? He also said, he would deny saying that if it ever came out.
Son has collected many many knives…..when I find them, I take them. again….he replaces them all.
This is not new…it’s been going on over 2 years……many police reports…..
I called the police tonight and put on my stelletos…..the sharp ones……fit nicely up a butt!!!
I am waiting for an officer to arrive….takes some time around here….and it’s not an emergency….
But…..the ironic thing is…..they can take their time….its sat night and these kids WILL be drinking and smoking and whatever else drugs they are doing……(ex used to supply)….so when I arrive with an officer in tow…..and they request they get their child home…..oh what shape he will be in!
Huh….may be opening up a can of worms for this kid….
Bummer, don’t mess with me as a proxy……you don’t like my kid…Fine …>STAY AWAY…..
This town is definately big enough to stay away…..he saw my son and friends walking and he pulled out of the church parking lot, yelled obscenities, screeched back around and all three jumped out of the car…..my sons friend was able to talk them down….
My son has good friends…..they all are a tight group through the church….
This ass kid joined the church youth group so he could be near my son……total S moves…..in summer my son went swimming in lake and while he was in the lake this kid pee’s in sons new shoes and baseball cap…..son get’s out and he becomes the laughing stock because this croney group knew…..YES>>>>THIS IS THE CHURCH FUNCTION!
Okay, cops are here….
I will check in later….
Thanks again.
EB
Star:
I just re read your post about the spiked heals……
Thanks for the laugh out loud!
I have to tell you all……the cops just left…..I think I got the jackpot cop!
I showed him every inch of evidence…..the pedofile letters, the pictures of the drugs, the contradictory letters with weird unsubstaniated claims….the rants from his journals…..
he was disgusted…..he kept asking me, have you shown so and so……YES….so and so….YES…so and so….YES……
He said he couldn’t say much on duty but he would give me a call off duty….I gladly gave him my card……
I NEED A COP ON MY SIDE……
I explained the sociopathic proxy……situation with the kids…..
In the very getgo….he said he couldn’t go over and accompny me to the parents…but said I could do it myslef and IF I needed back up…..call 911.
He spoke with my son…..who he new from my sons work…..(son works at a place owned by cops) and gave him pointers and advice…..It was good for son to hear it from him…..same advice I gave son and skylars advice about taping the kid.
Son told me it happens EVERY DAY…..today he was just beat down…..
I HAVE TO PUT A STOP TO THIS>>>>>
I will charge back up the digi tape and pay the parents a visit tomorrow. Maybe even visit the dad at work!
I can show him the ex S’s journal about this guys ‘race’ and how vial he writes about them…..wanting to deport them all and calling ICE and homeland security etc….
HE preyed on them too…..got them to like him so much they invited him to family dinners…..He might be shocked to read it for himself! If he can’t read…..I will gladly read it to him…..
Maybe I can calm down and do it all so rationally and plant the seeds of doubt with the father…..then the FATHER CAN KICK HIS SONS ASS! Along with the threat of my legal action if he can’t make it stop.
I told this cop, I wasn’t going to take this anymore and he agreed I shouldn’t have to…..He knew my son and knows he is a good kid…..
Being in a small town…..they are fully aware of the asshole kids….and there are alot of them…..
SO….case closed…..for tonight!