Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by a reader who we’ll call Mandy. Mandy is 15 years old and dated a sociopathic guy, who was two years older, for over a year. Notice how similar the sociopath’s behaviors are to what many of us adults experienced—an indication that this manipulative behavior is instinctual in sociopaths.
A person cannot be diagnosed a sociopath until the age of 18, but can start showing symptoms at a young age. He was 15 and I was only 13. We lived in two separate towns. We met on the computer off of an Internet website called Facebook and then started talking all the time on phone.
I was a perfect victim. I had no self-esteem when I was younger because of verbal abuse I had faced from classmates. I felt alone and just wanted to have a boyfriend by my side. We were constantly flirting on the phone, but I didn’t want this to be a cyber relationship. He seemed charming and sweet. Every time time I would ask him to hang out he would tell me that there was no one to drive him. His sister couldn’t and his mother would leave him home all day by himself and how alone he felt. So I had asked him, “What about your dad?” He said, “I never met my dad before.” It’s like he would make me feel guilty for asking him.
He started to say “I love you”
Weeks were going by, but the more time that passed, the more we were acting like a couple. He even started to say, “I love you.” I couldn’t handle this relationship because we never have even met! So when I finally decided to tell him we should end this, he told me he would kill himself and that he had written a suicide note. I couldn’t let go after he told me this. Promising me that he would he see me soon.
A few weeks later he started mentioning ex-girlfriend who he said he dated for three years. When I asked to speak to her, he gave me her screen name. I just wanted to speak to her to see if everything he told me added up. I ended up finding the ex-girlfriend on Facebook, which is when I found out from her that he was lying. He lied about never meeting his dad, and they didn’t date for three years, only two months, and that he made up a fake screen name. Also telling me he wanted her back. When the three of us were on the phone confronting him he said that he picked me over her and that he would never lie to me again.
$85 taxi ride
About a month later, with still not seeing each other, he told me to call his mother so we can see each other. When I had asked her she told me, “I don’t mean to be a bitch of a mother, but right now is not a good time. He needs to get his priorities straight.” From her finding out that we were talking, she quickly put a end to it by telling him to stop. But a couple of months later we started talking again. Sitting home sick on March 10th, he wanted me to come to his school to see him. I took a taxi, which cost me $85 for the whole trip with only my money. He was very nice, sweet, and funny and even introduced me to his friends. We finally met after four months, but I had to make the effort.
I started to notice that he was never going out with friends, and every time I would go out he would be mad because I wasn’t giving him attention. When I had asked him why he doesn’t really go out, he would tell me that because he used to be a bad kid his mom doesn’t allow him out very often because she cant trust him yet. Telling me that he changed and is trying to gain all of her trust back.
Yelling at me
So on a Friday night when I was going out, he had called me screaming to never call his number again. Telling me that I sent pictures to his friends. He kept yelling at me and screaming, how could I do such a thing? I kept telling him that I love him and that I didn’t do anything. As he heard me cry for hours to him; he wouldn’t stop yelling at me and told me to forget about him. I called back and said, “You know what? I know I didn’t do anything; just forget about it.” He said, “I love you I want to be with you,” like nothing even happened. I knew the story was all made up though. I didn’t want to let him go because I felt like he was the first real guy who actually liked me.
The next few weeks were fine, but now it was over five months, it started to come down to if this could actually work. The only way I can do this was if I received his mother’s approval of me. We started to argue about the whole thing because he wasn’t sure if he was going to go through with it. He said, “You would get a boyfriend and then leave me. You wouldn’t be able to say I love you anymore. Once you have a boyfriend, you would eventually stop calling me.”
Sexual acts
Basically from here to September, the new school year, all we were doing was deciding to be friends, to being friends with benefits to trying to be together. Just a repeating pattern from month to month. Until one night when I returned from babysitting he had asked me, how were the kids? Asking me if I ever thought about doing anything sexual with them. He tried to get me to share stories of sexual things I have done with the children. I thought he was joking, and tried to brush it off. Then he started to ask me to have sexual contact with family members and then my dog. I would ask him, “Why do you try to talk about these things?” His answer was, “I do this because I know you like it.” I found this disgusting and weird. This continued for months and he wouldn’t stop.
In January he came to my house; he actually made half of the effort this time with paying and getting in a taxi for me. We had to sneak to do this though. He wanted me to have sex with him, but I had told him no. He forced himself on top of me holding me down trying to get me to have it, but I kept screaming to stop and he finally let go. And you would think I wouldn’t want to be with him, but I was in denial because I didn’t want to be alone and believed that he loved me.
He had a new girlfriend
A month later I wrote a letter to his mother that I am a good person and telling her that I want to be with her son. She turned me down and basically two weeks later he had a new girlfriend and told me he just wants to be friends with me. We will never be together and all we were doing was fighting. Along the way, though, he made up lies after lies and manipulated me into believing that we could be together. He promised me for over a year that once he will be able to drive he could see me, but that never happened. He made promises to me that never happened.
It took me three long months to get myself out of depression about the question, did this really happen? I found myself crying every day and needed to go to a social worker in school. My dad knew some of the story, because along the way I told him bits and pieces. My dad warned me though. I got hurt.
Traits of a sociopath
He has all the traits of a sociopath, which my social worker thought too.
Glibness and Superficial Charm, Manipulative and Conning, Pathological Lying, Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt, Shallow Emotions. When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion, it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy. Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. Promiscuous Sexual Behavior, Infidelity, Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts
He showed all of that along the way. This went on for over a year. Now he has stopped talking me for good, but I still feel like he will come back. His new victim, or would you say girlfriend, is a new girl who was new to his town who just had moved on. Perfect target.
Broken heart
I had to sum the story up, but it was really more to that. There were a lot of tears and me crying over him for a year and a lot of fighting. I took a lot of verbal abuse from him. My life revolved around him, with me blowing off homework and studying to talk to him. Me trying to make the effort to be with him. I loved him and I put my everything into him because I convinced myself that he loved me.
It’s been seven months since he stopped talking to me, but I still think about him everyday. I am traumatized by him, and still have a broken heart. I did spend a lot of my money on him, but did it cause I believed the lies he told me, but he just used me to get to what he wanted. He wanted me to go along with his sick fantasies. He never cared about me, and never will.
Hi Mandy!
It is wonderful to hear from you! Please keep reading others experiences here on this site. I have been reading for over a year and it has been a blessing….
I learned so much and found out that the guy I was involved with was mirroring the traits of a sociopath…I don’t really know what I would have done had I not found this site…..I realized he was a SP but at first, I would believe I was wrong in assuming he was one…..since he would turn around and be what I thought was romantic when he was only playing a game with me….
There were so many comments I read on this site that were identical to his behavior and I kept reading…..Mandy, it finally started to sink in……I had to accept it to escape my sad prison in limbo….I was never happy and always wondering what he was going to do and when.
He stood me up and didn’t call. He texted “someone” constantly through dates……he told me he didn’t want to fall in love and this was after he asked me if I was falling in love with him and after he asked me if I could fall in love with him. ???? Nutty but this the way he manipulated……
Well, he has no remorse…..But I soon grew tired of the lies, and after taking some time to myself, I realized that he was so unreal…..that he didn’t care or love me…….and I practice that mantra every time I think of him…..It is sad for me since I thought him to be a real man…..But I might as well love a tree stump…..LOL
It is like loving someone we invented….since we took the things we liked about them and put feelings where there were none….
Nevertheless, it still makes us sad…..Crying is a purification of our souls…..It helps to wash away the sadness…..If you feel lonely without him just remember the loneliness was always there around you while with him……
I wrote this poem about this emptiness and I would like to share it with you…..
Emptiness now surrounds me
The vastness can’t compare
No surprises, no words, and yet, no fear
Can it be so, this space, this void was always here?
and all this time when I thought you close
You where never really here?
Emptiness now embraces me
It seems to wrap me in it’s shroud
Perhaps to let me know it’s safe
It’s okay to cry out loud
But preference begets me
I save my precious tears
And wonder where I was this time
A stranger, a wanderer, in a world of a heartless soul
And somehow, I am free and I am real
Rising up from this hollow hole
Emptiness extends her hand, I plunge
Escaping from a prison of fears…….
Feel free to talk about your experiences with us if you need to and we all know how you feel…….
We care!!!
Beautiful poem, Vision. Thanks for posting it.
Thanks Sky, I cry it every day now…..along with my mantra!!
Mandy,
It was great to hear from you.
Just wanted to add that your reaction to his sexual questions was good and healthy. Sociopaths try to project on to us the things about themselves that they can’t face. In other words, he was telling you that YOU liked the discussions, when it was really HIM who liked them. It was indeed disgusting and weird.
Sex is something that should be way down the road in a relationship. Be friends first, then girlfriend/boyfriend, and THEN, much later sex can be involved. Sex is so bonding for a female, and also for a MATURE male, but unfortunately high school boys aren’t very mature. They also don’t know what they are doing. Let them learn with someone else. I waited until college, and with a boy I had been dating seriously for three years, before we had sex, and it was a POSITIVE experience. For most of my girlfriends, who got involved sooner with a boy, it was NOT positive. I ended up engaged to that boy, and then we finally decided it was not meant to be, but it didn’t hurt for long, because we both knew we had really cared for each other and would remember each other with fondness. We just wanted different things out of life, even though we had loved each other.
Well, you are much wiser than I was at your age, so you will do fine. Hold tight to your values and integrity. Believe in yourself and others will too!
Mandy – here is what I want you to know – YOU have something I wish I had when I was your age – and that is knowledge. It is painfully learned but if you keep reading and do the emotional recovery work around this relationship you have a much better chance of avoiding engaging in harmful relationships.
When I look back I see that my naivete and compassion for others made me an excellent target for sick selfish people. You don’t have to do that and then figure it out in your 40’s or 50’s or 60’s – you get to free yourself young and that is – as painful as the whole thing was – a great gift.
I strongly suggest you read some books like – “What Smart Women Know” by Steven Carter and Julia Sokol, that you read ta a blog called “Getting Past Your Past” and buy Susan Elliott’s book as it has some inventories in it and talks about grief work and loss and I found it very very helpful.
Please find value in your own self and do not seek it from others outside of you – treasure yourself rather than seek to be treasured. I know what it is to be lonely. Learn to make friends and observe others so you can choose whether you want them in your life rather than being desperately grateful they chose you – when you are grateful to be chosen you are in danger…
I hope I can help my two young daughters learn the very things I am saying to you so that they too know when to walk from harmful-sick people and when to RUN from predatory people.
with love to you
You will notice the maturity level of the person is way below what is expected! almost infantile! best yet animal!
But their are the smart ones too! really dangerious!
Dear Easy,
I agree that the “maturity” level of the psychoopaths seems in many ways STUCK in the infantile level of I WANT—but the level of their CUNNING can grow as they learn to manipulate others to give them what they want.
I need help with something, I dont want him back he is the worst, but i find myself full of anger still after all these months but I know he will never feel what I feel no matter what and that I have to let it go, but as a sociopath why wont he talk to me even as a person..is it because he is so involved in his new target and that he never cared to begin with so he doesnt care now
anf06 – why would you want to talk to someone who only wants to hurt you.
You are correct – you were a game – a target –
you do not read to him as a person – think of the child that uses the magnifying glass on the ant hills to burn the ants and see them scurry – when he is done does he think about the ants or does he drop the glass and go off to his next interest without a care in the wordl about the harm he has caused another living being? (And I do not like bugs but am using this as an example) you are nothing more than one of the ants in that game and now he is on to the next.
Do you think about the paper plate you ate a barbecue dinner off of? No – you put it in trash and discard it satisfied from the meal and looking for your dessert…
You are the plate – the time with you was the meal. It is eaten and digested and forgotten…
Your exactly right thats exactly what he did, the question that I dont want to think about but i am putting it out there is will he come back for me cause he thinks i will always be there once he is done with her? Even though I will never let him back in everrrrr!