Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following story from a woman who we’ll call “Trista.” She tells her story of being dismissed with a shrug.
I met the man who has been my husband for 30 years in a language school. He was serious, but could be funny, a bit shy, but also had a way with words. He had beautiful eyes and lots of girls were in love with him. I was no exception, but it was me he chose to go out with.
The relationship soon took off and we were a pair. Those first days were good; I had no idea I was dealing with a sociopath. When I took him to meet my mother, however, when things were very serious between us, she said that she thought he needed some “help.” I dismissed it.
I did realize how quickly he took offense for the least of things, and how quick he was to respond with offensive words to other people. Soon after we married I started to see more and more of his temper, that other people called a “short fuse,” but it was still directed to others, not to me. My time would come.
Controlling the money
My S was very controlling with money, getting angry even if I bought him a present that he thought cost more than I could spend. He continued to control me through money for all those 30 years, never allowing me to go to the supermarket on my own, not giving me money to any expense, and having screaming fits if I did anything like taking the initiative of paying for a small cheap portrait of our infant daughter. My friends and family thought him “odd,” and because I was so afraid that some people would do or say the wrong thing near him and trigger a terrible scene, I started avoiding most of my friends. We lived on our own with our two small kids, and provided that I would not ask for money or invite people who could get him in a mood, life was sort of ok.
Church was another problem. As a Christian, I was used to church life and he was brought up in a Christian environment as well. However, we could not be in any church together. Something would happen, something the preacher said or that other people said would trigger his horrendous fits of rage. I used to be terrified in church, paying attention to where the sermon would lead in case it would touch some subject that he would find offensive. I remember real terror while in church, till the last time he stormed out of the building and verbally attacked the pastor at the door. I never went to church with him again, but I also could not go alone, in case he thought I did not think him fit to go to church. This would cause even more problems. In the end I gave up church altogether, but not my Christian faith.
Holidays on his own
In the middle of the 90’s he started going on holidays on his own, to countries in Europe. I was never invited, not thought of, as I stayed behind to look after the house and teenagers. I don’t believe that he had one minute of doubt about the propriety of a married man in his 50’s going to holidays alone every year. I decided not to say anything.
I was still very scared of confronting him about anything; his rages were severe and I was scared because his eyes would change to look like glass when he was angry. He would scream not to touch him, to get away from him and his eyes would go big and glazed. Once when he was driving, somehow something we said got him in one of his tempers and he drove with fury near getting on the pavement, and barely missing a lady and a child. My daughter was in the car with me and we both thought we would die as well. He had no control over himself. A bit later on he started breaking things, like the Christmas tree, ornaments, and also pushed me against a table, I bruised my ribs and had to go to the hospital next day.
He got a job as a teacher in a University. He can somehow give a good interview and charm others, he is intelligent and cultured. Later on, when they see the problems, it is usually too late. His boss has already commented on his “glazed eyes.”
In love with Poland
As part of this job, he got a trip to Poland. When he came back, he was a man completely taken by the Polish life and people, in such a way that I can only describe as sick. My house immediately became full of Polish ornaments, his friends became only Polish people, he became obsessed by them, in the same way he became obsessed in the past by other cultures like the South Americans, the Russians, the Orientals. He had “phases” when he only talked and walked around people of those cultures, now it was the Polish. I knew it well, but could not foresee a new developement: He “fell in love” with a Polish boy.
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I was away for some weeks visiting my family and when I came back there was something different about him. He had bought a mobile phone, was using it every minute, and hiding in the garden to talk. I also got an email he passed to this boy and it was a complete sop, an email a man writes to his girl. I got the phone number of the boy, went to talk to him, who was only 20 (my S is 57) and did not know about the situation; he had a girlfriend! It was in my S ‘s mind; he interpreted friendship for another thing. This boy was his former student.
The S in my life even said after being discovered that he needed the excitement and when I pointed out the absurdity of a 57 married man who is a grandfather chasing a 20 year old boy who is younger than his son or nephews, he simply said “he had no one for him,” meaning, “I did not have to account for my actions to his family, since he has none.” He continued to behave in the most shameless manner, telling our friends that he was in love with a boy and alienating our friends even further, telling his family that both him and my son had Polish people in their lives (because my son had had a Polish girlfriend). He even asked me why I thought that I was God’s will for him and not that boy. I was speechless.
Mask slipped
From them on I argued with him for two years about the impropriety of such things, the absurdity of it, but he denies having done anything. When I talked to the boy I was made aware that he had invited him for a weekend trip and I got it just in time. He tried to blame me for his actions and denies having done me any harm or the children. However, our family is in tatters and I have filed for divorce with the support of my children. I have seen a counselor, who also saw him and he told me to leave him and that he has been cheating on me all my life. This boy was not the first one, but now the mask has slipped. Interesting enough, other people have used that term to refer to him, my friend said she always saw him as having a mask; my brother said that “his plug fell.”
At the moment he is still denying the boy was more than friendship, even after the fact that he took our wedding ring off and told me he was not married to me, didn’t want me, didn’t love me, and cried like a baby for this boy. I have all the evidence; he still denies it and makes me feel I’m somehow to blame. For two years I went nearly crazy because of his faulty logic, his coldness, his shameless deeds. He still denies that he has done wrong.
He has no remorse, no thought of me or the children about it all; he considers himself a good Christian who goes to church every Sunday but never learns anything. He said that when he did it (about the boy) I never entered his mind.
I’m now nearly divorced and have nothing else to do with him. He is still involved with the Polish, and is dressing up as a 20 year old himself, walking with groups of young people. My son is ashamed of him and my daughter says she hardly knows him. He couldn’t care less for me, his wife of 30 years. I was dismissed with a shrug.
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I’m so sorry for the things you went through, Trista. I have found with the one I was with, they have no shame or regret. We are just objects to them, nothing more, something to get them from one point in their life to the next. All about them. They do not care about the pain or hurt they cause, just oblivious to it. What I found with mine, his family just looks the other way and does not hold him accountable for his actions. A 54 year old man, living with his parents, no money, no job telling everyone he’s retired with no income or savings. There’s just something wrong with their brains!
Hugs to you, it does get better with them out of our lives!!!!
Congratulations on the tremendous strength you have shown through all this. You are a remarkable woman! I hope your life just gets more wonderful by the minute now!!!
Trista your description of the rages and quiet anger simmering that made you drop your interests and outings brought back so many memories for me. I who had once been highly social lost all my friends and had no outside person who could see how crazy the relationship was getting. The man I was involved with also denied all responsibility for everything and tried to pretend that nothing bad had ever happened. I am so sorry you suffered for so long. It is good the c hildren can see his behaviour clearly … many on this site have children who can’t see what the other parent is doing.
I hope you are managing to rebuild – it is hard when we realise what we are dealing with. Life is so much better without them in it – gradually we stop putting our automatic barriers on activities and outings. You must have had incredible strength to have survived all those years with him – I hope that strength is now directed at just you 🙂 Hugs/
Gem:
This situation you describe is something I beleive happens over time……with time we uncover many many things/behaviors we were not aware of.
I think we must expect this.
WE must remember that this WHO they are to the core…..and NOT only directed towards us…..but all of humanity…..boss’s, sisters, teachers, neighbors, children, parents etc……there is NOT a person on earth immune to the cons.
Once a lier always a lier!
A duck is ALWAYS a duck….not just when it’s swimming, and NOT just when it’s quacking.
Gem…..I said to you before….I’m concerned with your request for your daughter…..an appology….that’s all you want.
I want you to ask yourself…..for the long term……what IF you get one……then what…..will this open you up to the abuse again? Will you let her ‘back in’?
For me, all the things that have unearthed after we separated…..has only confirmed to me just what a scumbag, mansucking, fake I was married to…..
ANd I don’t give a damn if he crawled back with all the tea in china AND the moon…..with all the right ‘words’……
I’d kick him in the teeth and put my ped egg shavings in his pasta and send him packing as quick as he appeared.
I’m sorry your finding these things out….and it probably adds clarity for some questions you have……but continue to protect yourself and remain strong my dear!
XXOO
EB
I guess it will never cease to amaze me how alike these P males are! My PX= Fits, rage, being deserted, almost killed by reckless driving, abandoned on vacations, church, children, right down to the crush on a young boy– running with young people and dressing like a teen. And….cried like a baby over the young boy!
Trista:
You are worth much more than a shrug.
Welcome to LF and thank you for sharing your story.
It is amazing how calaous they are and how much denial and blame they cast.
How on earth can he not look crazy????
You are much better off with him gone….I hope you get all you need in the divorce and are able to wisk past this mess of a person.
Please keep in mind…..DO NOT EVER OWN HIS BEHAVIORS!
Your a strong woman, remain strong and empowered and keep educating yourself on what you have been living.
GOod luck to you and much love.
XXOO
EB
Twice Betrayed. Be so thankful that you weren’t betrayed THREE TIMES as I was over a span of 27 years to the same crazy woman . You learned the hard lesson alot sooner than I did. Neither of us paid attention to the red flags that kept popping up before our eyes. And like most honest people with a good soul we all thought:I can change them or They will change over time. It’s only after doing your homework and research that you see their traits for what they are sociopath permanent ones..that will never get better. I have cut off ties with my S woman for three weeks now and I have a gut feeling I haven’t heard the last from her. Not when she knows about when my father’s estate will clear probate.(She has a ballpark time frame). I had promised her about $2,500 worth of money and items she “suggested” she needed. She never really came out and asked me cause she didn’t have to. Like a fool I volunteered it. I would have still given it too her too had she not had her “Bored” spell and given up on me while waiting for my ship to come in. She went off on me on the phone and I told her off and then told her in an email that I never wanted to hear from her again. I haven’t either for 3 weeks. I told my story to Donna and she believes she will return about the time the estate clears. I will be waiting for her this time with a resounding “NO!”
So my words to you are also for me Twice Betrayed: Be STRONG within Yourself! Do not cave to these cheats and liars!
Dear Renewed: Well, actually twice betrayed does not refer to being betrayed twice by the same man….nor does it refer to being married to 2 P males…which I have done all of the above. Actually: Twice Betrayed refers to my last X husband having had an affair with my older daughter [not by him] off/on for many years of our marriage-which i found out towards the end of the marriage along with MANY other things……….sigh.
Thanks for your very kind words of encouragement! I am long gone and along the road of healing pretty well.
I wish you well and you have certainly come to the right place!
PS> Renewed: I was married to this one for 28 years. [had one before that that I had two kids by that I raised alone–he took a powder].